Gary Moore- The Most underated guitarist ever?


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jon3782001
06-29-2006, 04:47 PM
Read the Title, do you agree?

For starters, he has music covering almost every genre imaginable, his technical ability is astonishing, he can play from slow soulful ballads all the way up to frightening shred like speed. Oh yeah, he can play the blues like hell.......

His tone is amazing, with a classic les paul to marshall set up that he typically uses. He has had a successful career with Thin Lizzy and an astonishing Solo career, making you wonder how such songs as 'Cold Day in Hell' Didnt make number 1, or even Pariseanne Walkways, both very different but very good, emotional and full of passion.

He can't be too bad considering he went on tour with BB King and plays with the sheer passion and manipulative skill that Hendrix would play with. Was hendrix underated? Sure as hell he wasnt. Was BB King? No! Gary Moore should be up there with page, Brian MAy, Hendrix etc. I personally dont think there is a 'best guitarist' ever but there can always be a favourite.

Anyone under 20 doesnt seem to have heard of him (im 15 but its not the point). I onlly found out about him when I asked my guitar teacher to teach me some good les paul stuff, he recommended gun's n roses, I said Franz Ferdinand (doh!), and he said na sod indie, stick some of this **** on. He lent me the Still got the Blues album and I've been in love ever since. I just cant get the sustain on that Parisseane note!!!

Gary Moore, is technically astounding and obivously understands music, particularly blues, in an interview, he said there is so much you can tug out of a melody if you use chords correctly (also said by Graham Coxon), and you can hear that in his solos, in such songs as Walking by Myself and Pariseanne walkways, each note is thought about, almost as Gilmour does, almost as hendrix does, but these were specialised guitarists. Moore is an all rounder who ranges from Fusion (walking by My self) to Bluesy ballads (Still got the blues, pariseanne walkways).

Yet all of these go unoticed, few people have heard of him, but many have heard his music and think it's someone else, PAriseanne walkways for example is thought of (in my town anyway) as being by Lynyrd Skynrd (nooooo). Only classic rock fans over 30 and guitarists have usually heard of him, but you see no praise for him whatso ever, not in music mags or VH1 or anything.

Do you agree?

Post your views here.......

izzy_dan
06-29-2006, 04:59 PM
gd thread, i agree he is underatted, i have the greatest hits and walkways albums, there is a good range of styles on these CD's, though i think you have emphasized his versatility a little too much. I was reccommened Gary Moore by my Auntie (lol) when i told her i was learning guitar. Dam i love the loner, empty rooms, still got the blues, generally the slower songs, altho also like wild frontier a lot. But yeah, i generally agree with you, and im only 16 so its not just oldies who like him!

jon3782001
06-29-2006, 05:01 PM
wahay! nice to some one who is younger also, lol - i do think i emphasized his versitilty too much, but that was just to prove the point!

thanks for the reply and keep em coming

Jon

SomeEvilDude
06-29-2006, 05:29 PM
I've got his 'Still Got The Blues' and 'Blues For Greeny' albums. While they're both pretty good, and he's a pretty decent player, his voice really annoys me. He's a great player though, but his best work was probably with Thin Lizzy.
I saw him with B.B. King in April, and he can play with a lot of emotion and power, his voice is much better live. However, as good as he is, he's not at the same level as Gilmour, Hendrix or King. Much better than Page though, I'll agree with you there. :p:

He's certainly an underrated player - although there are better people who are more underrated - and he is pretty good, but I do think you're seriously blowing him quite a way out of proportion.

He lost a lot of my respect anyways a month or so ago anyway, because Parisienne Walkway is - apparently - a direct note-for-note rip-off of a song called (I think) Blue Bossa.

TheHeartbreaker
06-29-2006, 09:01 PM
I've watched some of his videos, and I must admit that he is very, very talented.

I'm not sure if his is THE most underrated guitarist, but he's definetly ONE OF the most underrated guitarists.

BlueOyster23
06-29-2006, 09:12 PM
^No, Buck Dharma is the most underrated.

Just kidding, Gary Moore is pretty good.

deadhead313313
06-29-2006, 09:15 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXYjEMTQRm0&search=gary%20moore

Hells Yeah

rx_eb
06-29-2006, 09:51 PM
most underrated guitarist EVER?

hell no the most underrated guitarists ever are the ones who you probably never heard of.

at least gary is well known in europe. well there're heaps of guitarists who are better than him and yet are unknown. who knows

TimmyPage06
06-30-2006, 12:26 AM
Im 17. Fell in love with his playing when I was 16. He's bloody amazing.

LongBow
06-30-2006, 04:06 AM
Sorry, but I am reading these "most underrated" threads and do not get it - underrated by WHO? Some teenage girls who listens to "Spice Girls" or boys who think that 50cent and Afroman are great?
I love Garry Moore's playing and always did. As well as Brian May, David Gilmore and heaps of others that are usually mentioned in this type of threads.
Please excuse me, but "underrated" just describes the size of the cave which "the raters" lives in. Period.

Evil_Empire24-7
06-30-2006, 07:34 AM
yes he is one of my major influences and he is one of the most underrated guitarists both from technical and creativity sides.

TheHeartbreaker
06-30-2006, 09:10 AM
Sorry, but I am reading these "most underrated" threads and do not get it - underrated by WHO? Some teenage girls who listens to "Spice Girls" or boys who think that 50cent and Afroman are great?
I love Garry Moore's playing and always did. As well as Brian May, David Gilmore and heaps of others that are usually mentioned in this type of threads.
Please excuse me, but "underrated" just describes the size of the cave which "the raters" lives in. Period.

Well said. :cheers:

private
06-30-2006, 09:11 PM
My guitar teacher had me learn his solo in "Too Tired"

JimmyPageda2nd
06-30-2006, 09:19 PM
Definitely not the MOST underrated, (I personally think Alvin Lee doesn't get as much credit as he deserves.) but definitely deserves much more recognition.

ufossuck
06-30-2006, 11:01 PM
When someone gets a thread saying that they are underrated, they are no longer the most underrated.

jon3782001
07-01-2006, 09:32 AM
When someone gets a thread saying that they are underrated, they are no longer the most underrated.

Good point, but I'm just pointing out that he's a famous guitarist that hasn't obtained the recognition he deserves

rayIII
07-01-2006, 09:51 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXYjEMTQRm0&search=gary%20moore

Hells Yeah
that's sweet... he is awesome :eek:

btw I'm 15 and I've heard his name alot but never heard anything by him (other than the red house vid and thin lizzy stuff)

alex_haeni
07-01-2006, 12:46 PM
not the MOST underrated, but he barely gets any credit, and he's written a hell of a lot of good songs.

jon3782001
07-02-2006, 04:33 AM
agree!

Resiliance
07-02-2006, 05:13 AM
He gets a whole lot more credit than other guitarists who I feel are much more deserving of it, so I don't think he'd have the right to complain.

Billy Badass
07-03-2006, 01:06 AM
not the MOST underrated, but he barely gets any credit, and he's written a hell of a lot of good songs.


I disagree. I think his tunes are utter ****. The guy can play but I don't think he can write a song to save his life.

Danne55
07-03-2006, 04:35 PM
He is not mentioned as often as you could think. He is sometimes forgotten when other great guitarists are mentioned like Page, Hendrix, Gilmour (you get the point) and he has written some really good songs.

slinks
07-03-2006, 04:38 PM
I personally think Roy Buchanan is the most underrated guitarist, but Gary Moore also doesn't get as much credit as he deserves. Some of the best musicians get the least attention. It's sad, but that's just the way things go.

jon3782001
07-05-2006, 10:24 AM
good points.....

ufossuck
07-06-2006, 02:05 AM
I'm gonna say Lenny Breau is more underrated. You all seem to think quite highly of Gary Moore and I'll bet few if any of you even know who Lenny Breau is.

Neon Knight
07-06-2006, 07:01 AM
Gary Moore is a genius

I'm gonna say Lenny Breau is more underrated. You all seem to think quite highly of Gary Moore and I'll bet few if any of you even know who Lenny Breau is.

wasnt he murdered?

ufossuck
07-06-2006, 08:29 PM
Gary Moore is a genius



wasnt he murdered?
Yeah, back in the 80s.

jon3782001
07-07-2006, 10:55 AM
lol :P

SomeEvilDude
07-07-2006, 11:08 AM
lol :P

Not that there's anything funny about one of the greatest jazz guitarists of all time being murdered, but you know.

jon3782001
07-07-2006, 11:22 AM
not the point, just the why someone though gary moore was murdered, anyhow, back to why hes so underated!

jon3782001
07-07-2006, 11:37 AM
I disagree. I think his tunes are utter ****. The guy can play but I don't think he can write a song to save his life.

brave to say! but everyone thinks differently ddont they?

DrBlowThingsUp
07-07-2006, 05:12 PM
Hes good, an he has great stuff, but only a few of his songs actually show what he can do to its full extent.
as an extra thing does anyone else think the tone of his stuff sound a bit vai-esque?

bodyheatseeker
07-07-2006, 05:27 PM
I think he's good I wouldn't call him the most underrated guitarist ever though

jon3782001
07-08-2006, 05:04 AM
Vai-esque? I suppose, the high gain shred kinda sounds like him

Jackolas
07-08-2006, 05:11 AM
Memory pain hasn't been mentioned and is :headbang:

jon3782001
07-08-2006, 04:34 PM
IS memory pain a song?

jon3782001
07-11-2006, 11:37 AM
anyone else got any views on this point?

TheUltimateSin
07-11-2006, 12:13 PM
There are 2 things I can say, but they have already been said and thus I agree with them. Here, let me remind you:

Sorry, but I am reading these "most underrated" threads and do not get it - underrated by WHO? Some teenage girls who listens to "Spice Girls" or boys who think that 50cent and Afroman are great?
I love Garry Moore's playing and always did. As well as Brian May, David Gilmore and heaps of others that are usually mentioned in this type of threads.
Please excuse me, but "underrated" just describes the size of the cave which "the raters" lives in. Period.

and

He gets a whole lot more credit than other guitarists who I feel are much more deserving of it, so I don't think he'd have the right to complain.

:) [/discussion]

Hardin
07-11-2006, 12:14 PM
He gets a whole lot more credit than other guitarists who I feel are much more deserving of it, so I don't think he'd have the right to complain.

Your talking about me, right? I'm so fricken' under-rated, I've played three 'concerts' in my bedroom and nobody's heard of me! Wtf!

Alex S.
07-11-2006, 01:14 PM
I'm 13 and I love his stuff. My dad got me into him a while back.

jon3782001
07-15-2006, 05:45 PM
I'm 13 and I love his stuff. My dad got me into him a while back.

wahay! anuvva younger lover of gary!

Billy Badass
07-16-2006, 12:08 PM
I'm 13 and I love his stuff. My dad got me into him a while back.


Please explain to me your need to tell everyone your age. You don't win awards just because you are young and you have heard of someone famous...it doesn't really make sense.

Encore_God
07-17-2006, 06:29 AM
Gary Moore's rock stuff is some of the best I've ever heard. His blues stuff is ok on the whole, but some of it is decidedly dodgy. Still one of my favourite guitarists ever.

thetearsibleed
07-17-2006, 01:13 PM
he is highly underrated, an amazing bluesman

though the most underrated guitarist ever is still for sure

frank zappa

SomeEvilDude
07-17-2006, 04:54 PM
he is highly underrated, an amazing bluesman

though the most underrated guitarist ever is still for sure

frank zappa

That position actually goes to either Malcolm Jones or Andy Summers. I think the people who know of Zappa hugely overrate him.

TheUltimateSin
07-17-2006, 05:09 PM
though the most underrated guitarist ever is still for sure

frank zappa

Maybe to you he is.

This is really only proving the point of "underrated to who".

Basic fact of life: The minute you mention "so-and-so's" name, they immediatly no longer qualify for the "underrated" bin because of the simple fact that you mentioned him/her and because you believe that person is underrated.

Am I going to fast? Do I need to slow down?

The word "underrated" has lost all value and meaning because of incidents like this.

redwing_suck
07-17-2006, 06:21 PM
^Absolutely. Even if you say "underrated by the general public," you're leaving out the aficonado listeners who are the true fans and thus do not underrate him.



But anywho... I never really liked Moore. His style of "blues" ain't too "bluesy." He's a shredding bluesman, which is a neat little genre but I hate to see the blues related to it. It's almost like that video of Malmsteen "playing the blues," in which he just shreds over a 12-bar progression of power chords. Moore never really stooped so low as Malmsteen, but he's hardly underrated.

jon3782001
07-19-2006, 12:50 PM
does anyone know if he really did a cover of 'love you more than i can say?'

jon3782001
07-19-2006, 04:13 PM
or nuclear attack?

SomeEvilDude
07-19-2006, 04:44 PM
The 'edit' button is your friend.

And offhand I don't know, but couldn't you just google 'Gary Moore songs' or something similar and check that way.

jon3782001
07-19-2006, 04:47 PM
lol - sorry, i'll use it

anyway

back to subject on hand.....

keep your views coming!

jon3782001
07-22-2006, 05:33 AM
does anyone else hav views on this subject?

chopps00
07-22-2006, 02:48 PM
^No, Buck Dharma is the most underrated.

Just kidding, Gary Moore is pretty good.

Buck Dharma is right! Everytime I hear Dharma play I ponder why he isn't more considered to be one of the best ever. I like his playing more than anything I've heard from Clapton or Beck, and in my opinion he's one of the ten best rock guitarists ever. Then again...thats an impossible list...too many greats.

Moore is awesome too, but not without the duel.

And Frank Zappa too. These forums are so fun, yet they annoy me. Zappa overated? I don't want any of what your smoking, son.

Prophet of Page
07-22-2006, 02:52 PM
Any of you ever hear of Antonio Forcione? Greg Howe? Brett Garsed?

Gary Moore is OVERrated.

Calum_Barrow
07-22-2006, 04:55 PM
Gary Moore really does rock the house. Went to see him with BB King in March, and he put on an absolutely fantastic show. My mum said when she went to see him a while back in Preston she wasn't all to impressed, as he came on late, only played a few songs then went off. However, I can say that when I went to see him with her earlier this year, it was a fantastic show. I think don't think he is the MOST underrated, but he is underrated yes.

EDIT: To the guy above me I've heard of Greg Howe, and just because I haven't heard of the others doesn't mean they're underrated, it just means I don't know who they are.

Prophet of Page
07-22-2006, 05:03 PM
EDIT: To the guy above me I've heard of Greg Howe, and just because I haven't heard of the others doesn't mean they're underrated, it just means I don't know who they are.

It does when they're that damn good.