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freewheelinbird
08-01-2006, 07:15 PM
who do you think the best riff rocker is?


keith richards?

jimmy page?

eric clapton?

angus young?

what do YOU think?

i personally think richards is tied with page

esp_shredder
08-01-2006, 07:23 PM
page wasnt really a "riff rocker"

He mostly played all rhythem instead of a bunch of riffs, but he wasnt a great guitarist none the less. my favorite lol

But I would have to say Clapton. Because of the Tears in Heaven and Layla hits.
Both of those had incredible catch riffs in alot of different octaves.

esp_shredder
08-01-2006, 07:24 PM
typo on my comment lol

Page was a great guitarist*** Sorry

marvelboy_04
08-01-2006, 07:25 PM
how was page not a good riffer?! listen to heartbreaker,the ocean, rock and roll, black dog,stairway to heaven,whole lotta love. that was one of the stupidest things ive heard.

bluesbreaker59
08-01-2006, 07:26 PM
csny had some good riffs, like ohio
ccr had good stuff too, nearly too many to name

CanCan
08-01-2006, 07:31 PM
From those, I would chose Angus Young, for those killer riffs he rolled all over AC/DC history.

TheUltimateSin
08-01-2006, 07:31 PM
No such thing. No one can accurately define what is "best" and it be justified.

That, plus there are way too many to weed out down to just one.

CowboyUp
08-01-2006, 08:14 PM
Page :)

freewheelinbird
08-01-2006, 08:39 PM
page wasnt really a "riff rocker"

He mostly played all rhythem instead of a bunch of riffs, but he wasnt a great guitarist none the less. my favorite lol

But I would have to say Clapton. Because of the Tears in Heaven and Layla hits.
Both of those had incredible catch riffs in alot of different octaves.


...i wouldn't really call tears in heaven "riff rock"

and by best i mean favorite.

TheHeartbreaker
08-01-2006, 08:49 PM
Of those I'd definetly go with Page.

Honestly, esp_shredder, I don't know what you're talking about Page not being a "riff rocker".

Basically, 95% of Zeppelin's music revolved around riffs.

ZoSoII_13
08-01-2006, 09:08 PM
Yeah I pick Page for the sheer volume (numerical, not loudness) of riffs he put into his music. One great riff and solo is from Smile On Me from the Yardbirds Little Games. It gives me chills.

Uncle Salty
08-01-2006, 09:40 PM
I believe Joe Perry was a great riff rocker

TimiHendrix33
08-01-2006, 09:47 PM
Angus Young

El Toro
08-01-2006, 10:40 PM
Clapton, because I feel he is the best, there ever was.

TheHeartbreaker
08-01-2006, 10:42 PM
Best riff rocker or best guitarist?

He could be one and not the other, which is how I feel about Page in this situation.

fattypumbaa
08-02-2006, 02:57 AM
umm Tony Iommi with Angus in a close second

BrainDamage
08-02-2006, 08:49 AM
Joe Perry anyone? Uncle Salty was the only person to mention him so far. He's by far my favorite.

TheHeartbreaker
08-02-2006, 09:23 AM
I've listened to a few Aerosmith albums fully through, and have heard a few songs from other albums, and Joe is pretty awesome, but even after listening to Aerosmith I don't always have one of Joe's riffs playing in my head, unlike how whenever I listen to Led Zeppelin I can't get one of Jimmy's riffs out of my head.

BrainDamage
08-02-2006, 09:49 AM
but even after listening to Aerosmith I don't always have one of Joe's riffs playing in my head well...I do :p:

TheHeartbreaker
08-02-2006, 10:01 AM
Well... you suck... Yep. :D

...

No. :sad:

Garf72
08-02-2006, 12:51 PM
Malcolm Young was the riffman in AC/DC, Iommi was pretty good but Page was the best, just about any good Led Zep song is probably good because of Page's riffing

clapton-floyd
08-02-2006, 01:57 PM
Definatly Clapton

chopps00
08-03-2006, 12:25 AM
I don't consider Page was a true riff rocker. He played some riffs, but he played some other songs that I wouldn't consider "riff".

I'd say Tony Iommi is my favorite.

ledhead73
08-03-2006, 01:53 AM
Well of course Page played some songs that didn't revolve around a riff, he is a true musician, not some crappy punk band poser. That being said, my top three are:

1. Jimmy Page: duh, I mean the guy has the greatest riffs ever and pulls them off like no one else. Whole Lotta Love is a perfect example. It has only like two chords in the whole song, but the riff is just so heavy. I mean come on!

2. The Young Brothers: Together Angus and Malcom Young have created at least the most famous riffs with things like Shoot to Thrill, Back In Black, Highway to Hell, You Shook Me All Night Long, ..... The list never ends.

3. Eric Clapton: everbody knows a Clapton riff. Normally it's either Sunshine of Your Love or Layla, but hey he had a lot more than that. I don't know though, Clapton and Richards are pretty close, but yeah, at least I can understand what the hell Clapton is talking about most of the time.

AdayTripper
08-03-2006, 01:59 AM
Keith, Page, and Angus.

BrainDamage
08-03-2006, 09:12 AM
He played some riffs, but he played some other songs that I wouldn't consider "riff". everyone has some songs like that...

heaven's gate
08-03-2006, 01:17 PM
page was and is the riff god

Scratch & Dent
08-03-2006, 01:18 PM
Malcolm Young

Skippy_McNutty
08-03-2006, 01:44 PM
From those, I would chose Angus Young, for those killer riffs he rolled all over AC/DC history.



:cheers:

Deff Kidd
08-03-2006, 09:45 PM
Angus definatley. Other than angus I would probably to go with page, especially his acoustic riffs (tangerine, over the hills, stairway etc.)

self-made_page
08-03-2006, 10:07 PM
Alex Lifeson

His riff-rockingness vs. solo-rockingness ratio is a good 6:1

ZeppelinFan3890
08-03-2006, 10:18 PM
Page has definitely written some of MY FAVORITE (not THE BEST, cause there is no such thing) riffs, so he's probably my favorite riff writer, riff rocker, whatever you want to call him.

And Alex Lifeson was just mentioned. Some of his riffs kick serious ass. He isn't a legendary guitarist, but is definitely underrated and overlooked.

diverdown04
08-03-2006, 10:28 PM
Wow. I didn't even think of Tommy Iommi until someone said it (I think that's how you spell it). Anyways I think Jimmy Page definitely but can I throw EVH out there?

guitarslinger91
08-04-2006, 12:43 AM
page

pretty much everyone else mentioned is great but they cant beat page
id say clapton next or tony iommi and alex lifeson does have some kick ass riffs

psychodelia
08-04-2006, 12:53 AM
can I throw EVH out there?

Eddie's riffs are the main reason I listen to Van Halen. I love them more than the solos.

dalcon532
08-04-2006, 01:23 AM
i'd put either malcom young and/or keith richards if we're talkin riffs/rhythm here (angus young is no rhythm)

IbanezxXx
08-04-2006, 01:44 AM
Tommy Iommi, Mustaine

lounge act
08-04-2006, 01:46 AM
i think page i hate the riff in heartbreaker cus it never gets out of my head that and moby dick's main riff and misty mountain hop

AdayTripper
08-04-2006, 02:18 AM
I reject my last statement.
Here is the list for me.
1.Keith Richards
2.Jimmy Page
3.Angus Young
4.John Lennon
5.Eric Clapton
6.Ritchie Blackmore
7.Tommy Iommi
8.Robbie Krieger
9.Brian May
10.Pete Townshend

mercedesisbenz
08-04-2006, 02:55 AM
Tony Iommi hands down.

deni010
08-04-2006, 08:34 AM
guys come on wat is the point in this thread ? i mean they were all like the best guitarists in history

sirpsycho85
08-04-2006, 09:51 AM
I reject my last statement.
Here is the list for me.
1.Keith Richards
2.Jimmy Page
3.Angus Young
4.John Lennon
5.Eric Clapton
6.Ritchie Blackmore
7.Tommy Iommi
8.Robbie Krieger
9.Brian May
10.Pete Townshend

this is a very good list. i would reorder it a bit, but you put a lot of my guys here. but i would ditch blackmore and add hendrix.

teenrocker
08-04-2006, 10:05 AM
Angus + Malcom Young

AdayTripper
08-04-2006, 01:24 PM
this is a very good list. i would reorder it a bit, but you put a lot of my guys here. but i would ditch blackmore and add hendrix.
I wanted to keep it to ten, and I thought it wasn't so much the riffs that made Hendrix famous. Rather than the crazy things he did with his guitar.

Bmm386
08-04-2006, 02:13 PM
Angus Young.

|T4Z|
08-04-2006, 10:44 PM
Ozzy Best Riffer

TheHeartbreaker
08-04-2006, 11:05 PM
Ozzy doesn't even play guitar, man.

psychodelia
08-05-2006, 01:17 AM
Ozzy Best Riffer

:haha good one

sirpsycho85
08-05-2006, 01:34 AM
I wanted to keep it to ten, and I thought it wasn't so much the riffs that made Hendrix famous. Rather than the crazy things he did with his guitar.


but i'd still take purple haze alone over most anything by anybody else. :)

alex_haeni
08-05-2006, 12:54 PM
Keef.
5 strings, 4 fingers, 3 chords, 2 guitars, one asshole.
but really, his riffs have never got old to me, they're always fresh and new.

themadstratter
08-06-2006, 12:15 AM
tony iommi, but also gotta say ray davies from the kinks. all day and all night, you really got me? classic riffs

wilty00
08-06-2006, 12:54 AM
Uh, hello?


Joe Perry?

uk1
08-07-2006, 07:26 AM
who do you think the best riff rocker is?


keith richards?

jimmy page?

eric clapton?

angus young?

what do YOU think?

i personally think richards is tied with page



The British one. :D :D

chopps00
08-07-2006, 01:08 PM
Well, I guess I'd say Iommi anyway. Jimmy Page played some great riffs, but most of my favorite guitar work from him isn't riff. Same with Clapton. Angus plays some great riffs. Gotta love Back in Black.

TheHeartbreaker
08-07-2006, 01:17 PM
The British one. :D :D

Good one.

No, really.

Hardin
08-07-2006, 01:40 PM
Ughhh...Malcolm came up with 90% of the riffs for AC/DC, not Angus! The only riff I can think of off the top of my head that Angus made was "Thunderstruck."

When playing live Angus and Malcolm would usually harmonize the riffs, but Malcolm is the one that actually writes them :)

TheHeartbreaker
08-07-2006, 03:04 PM
And from what I understand the "Thunderstruck" riff was actually a warm-up technique Angus used.

Hardin
08-07-2006, 05:58 PM
And from what I understand the "Thunderstruck" riff was actually a warm-up technique Angus used.

Yeah :p: he was really into one handed tapping. Angus contributed alot to AC/DC, but its unfortunate that Malcolm doesn't get any of the credit that he deserves :rolleyes:

freewheelinbird
08-08-2006, 02:59 AM
i nominate allen collins, gary rossington, and ed king

Derigiberble
08-09-2006, 05:42 AM
Collins and Rossington wrote some sick riffs together.

For me it'll always be Townshend. Some of the riffs he creates are just awesome. The guy is a genius for it, and there's so many classics thanks to his riffs.

DanHalen5150
08-09-2006, 05:50 PM
Mr. Slowhand himself. Yes i am talking about Eric Clapton

clapton-floyd
08-09-2006, 05:57 PM
Right on dude

:headbang:

jim morrison714
08-10-2006, 09:44 PM
i personally don't like ac/dc because it gets old. they used to be my favorite but as far as the best riff rocker it would have to be jimmy page my all time favorite

TheHeartbreaker
08-11-2006, 12:38 PM
For me it'll always be Townshend. Some of the riffs he creates are just awesome. The guy is a genius for it, and there's so many classics thanks to his riffs.

The fact he wrote so many different and diverse (but great sounding riffs) based upon the same few chords is absolutely amazing.

The Warpig
08-13-2006, 06:33 PM
Tony Iommi
Angus Young
Jimmy Page

TheHeartbreaker
08-13-2006, 07:56 PM
i personally don't like ac/dc because it gets old. they used to be my favorite but as far as the best riff rocker it would have to be jimmy page my all time favorite

I seem to have the same problem with AC/DC.

I can listen to them, but unlike a lot of bands I like, they seem to get very old and tedious rather quickly.

futurejp
08-13-2006, 09:47 PM
When I hear the word 'riff', I immediately think of Aerosmith. Walk This Way obviously has one of the most famous guitar riffs ever, and even beyond that, they have one of the most famous bass riffs ever in Sweet Emotion. If you think about it, the other verse/bridge parts of Sweet Emotion are also pretty famous 'riffs'. And you could even say Walk This Way starts with a famous drum riff, people instantly recognize it.

But in general, for overall riff-creation, I'd have to think about it. Page and Clapton have a lot of riffs....they took them all, since they were the two first real riff-makers :-P. For some reason, I don't always consider 'chord riffs' as real riffs - like Back In Black, for example, or Ironman. I think of those as catchy power-chord sequences, but a real riff is a bunch of notes, like Walk This Way, The Ocean, Hoochie Coochie Man, etc.

I'm a bit biased by Aerosmith, but they have riffs, whether 'note riffs' or 'chord riffs' (which is just my little distinction, I'm not saying it's law) all over the place. Dream On, Write Me, Movin' Out, Walkin' The Dog, Same Old Song And Dance (can you get any more blues-rock-famous than this, too?), S.O.S. (Too Bad), Seasons Of Wither, Toys In The Attic, Walk This Way, Sweet Emotion, Adam's Apple, Round And Round...all just on their first few albums.

BrainDamage
08-14-2006, 10:44 AM
And you could even say Walk This Way starts with a famous drum riff, people instantly recognize it.
it's funny, at concerts where they play Lord of the Thighs, the crowd goes nuts because for the first second or two, it sounds like Walk This Way. They then die down realizing it's not Walk This Way :p: Thighs is a great live song.

TheHeartbreaker
08-14-2006, 11:35 AM
"Walk this way, sweet! Wait - ?! Aw, ****!".

lespaulkevin
08-14-2006, 02:10 PM
angus young of jimmy page

futurejp
08-14-2006, 06:15 PM
lol BrainDamage, I was going to say the very thing you said about WTW/LOTT. It was even funnier this past tour....Walk This Way was always either the first song played or the second song played, and for a month or two, Lord Of The Thighs had a run around 3/4 of the way through the setlist. So even though people had heard Walk This Way already, they still thought, for a second or two, that the LOTT drums were WTW.


And to elaborate on Aerosmith & riffs, I believe that lack of riffs are the reason Aerosmith has become more pop-oriented since '87. If you look at pretty much all of their pre-Permanent Vacation albums, they're based on riffs. Get The Lead Out?- great tune. The intro riff is great, and the vocal line is based on that riff. The focus is the guitar riff, and the vocals fit around it.

In pop music, the focus is the vocals, so there's very little room for riffs. The vocal melody is the thing that steals the focus, and the rest of the band is basically just there to back it up.

What are some of Aerosmith's most famous songs (among fans (as opposed to casual radio listeners)) from their 'pop' career? Love In An Elevator, Fever, Voodoo Medicine Man, Young Lust, Eat The Rich, Taste Of India, The Farm, Just Push Play....they're all riff songs.

This is a good thread, riffs are really important.

crazynickman
08-14-2006, 06:18 PM
angus young?

Malcom riffed; he was the rhythm guitarist and he never gets credit for the riffs.

I say Pete Townshed, because rhythm=riffin, and he was the best rhythm guitarist out there.

BrainDamage
08-14-2006, 08:13 PM
lol BrainDamage, I was going to say the very thing you said about WTW/LOTT. It was even funnier this past tour....Walk This Way was always either the first song played or the second song played, and for a month or two, Lord Of The Thighs had a run around 3/4 of the way through the setlist. So even though people had heard Walk This Way already, they still thought, for a second or two, that the LOTT drums were WTW. hahaha yeah :p:

P.S.- so you know Matt eh? He's the one who supplies me with all my live Aerosmith :D

futurejp
08-14-2006, 09:51 PM
Bwahahah, Matt and I talk every day, we record covers of Aerosmith songs together :-P. We'll send you some.

clapton-floyd
08-15-2006, 07:49 AM
John Entwistle! :D. If you listen to some Who tracks, he actually plays the riffs while towneshend acts more as a bass, and he sometimes soloed! lol

crazynickman
08-15-2006, 03:26 PM
^"The Real Me" has a guitar riff but thats totally a bass song.

freewheelinbird
08-15-2006, 03:58 PM
Malcom riffed; he was the rhythm guitarist and he never gets credit for the riffs.

I say Pete Townshed, because rhythm=riffin, and he was the best rhythm guitarist out there.


ehh i typed angus young because i dont listen to ac/dc. i just put it in there to pelase the massses

crazynickman
08-15-2006, 04:14 PM
^thats alright, AC/DC is no big screaming deal anyway, I'm tired of them..

clapton-floyd
08-15-2006, 04:27 PM
AC/DC do get very tiresome rather quickly aswell.

halfstepdown88
08-15-2006, 04:57 PM
I hate ACDC, seriously I tried listening to them last night and I got as bored as hell

Mikeoman
08-15-2006, 05:20 PM
I think John Fogerty's probably the best "riff rocker" out there. His musics always simple, yet catchy, and some of his solos even sound kind of "riffy", like the one on Born on the Bayou.

Heres some other "riif rockers" I really like:

1. The Edge!
2. Keith Richards!
3. The guitarists from the Tragically Hip!

And, uh, can this please not turn a thread attacking AC/DC? While they may get old, hearing people complain about how they get old gets old quickly too.

Viperseye
08-16-2006, 01:24 AM
um. you guys arent rulling out eddie van halen are you?.....

BrainDamage
08-16-2006, 02:33 PM
Bwahahah, Matt and I talk every day, we record covers of Aerosmith songs together :-P. We'll send you some. do you live near him? If you do, are you going to the 9/14 PNC show?

He's been helping me rebuild my Aerosmith collection, and then some.

Gibson_SG_uzr55
08-16-2006, 02:35 PM
Angus and Malcom Young.

sinan90
08-16-2006, 02:44 PM
when people say layla has a great riff , i do believe i found somewhere that clapton took the riff from some vocal performance, and the riff in sunshine of you love is by jack bruce

futurejp
08-16-2006, 03:52 PM
do you live near him? If you do, are you going to the 9/14 PNC show?


I live 'near' him, probably a couple hours away. PNC's only an hour or two away from where I live, but I'll be back at college near Boston, so I'm catching the 9/26 and 9/28 Mansfield shows. One of these days, though, I should go to a show with him.

BrainDamage
08-16-2006, 04:10 PM
^^I saw him at both the 11/10 and 11/23 shows last year. He's going to PNC this year also so I'll see him there again. I hope they add another PNC date, if they do I'm definately going to that.

TheHeartbreaker
08-16-2006, 04:53 PM
I think John Fogerty's probably the best "riff rocker" out there. His musics always simple, yet catchy, and some of his solos even sound kind of "riffy", like the one on Born on the Bayou.

:cheers:

Fogerty is a beast.

greggybhoy
08-17-2006, 08:10 PM
Jack White - Now those are RIFFS!!!

blues_rocker
08-19-2006, 09:46 AM
Blackmore FTW!

hassasin
08-19-2006, 12:15 PM
Angus Young by far, listen to ever acdc song and theres a different riff, but i also think malcomb young should take some credit for a good riffer

Mellow Gold
08-19-2006, 12:19 PM
I've always liked Joe Perry's riffs

futurejp
08-19-2006, 04:22 PM
^^Good man.

Ziggy193
08-19-2006, 04:47 PM
Angus Young, Jimmy Page, Tony Iommi, and Pete Townshend. All of those guys kick(ed) unethical amounts of ass with their riffs. (And so did Slash, but he's not Classic Rock.)

Serial Rocker
08-19-2006, 05:44 PM
C'mon, don't be silly guys, Keith Richards's nickname is "The Human Riff", don't forget the 'da da, dadada" (please understand "Satisfaction"'s riff) !

Fuze
08-19-2006, 11:15 PM
Jimmy Page, or Angus Young

TheHeartbreaker
08-20-2006, 08:33 AM
C'mon, don't be silly guys, Keith Richards's nickname is "The Human Riff", don't forget the 'da da, dadada" (please understand "Satisfaction"'s riff) !

*Slaps forehead*

Man, I thought that 'da da, dadada' was "Brown Sugar"!

Mr. Crash
08-20-2006, 04:03 PM
Tony Iommi is the greatest riff-constructor in history, with Malcolm Young reasonably close in second.

BrainDamage
08-20-2006, 04:13 PM
*Slaps forehead*

Man, I thought that 'da da, dadada' was "Brown Sugar"! heh, it would need a few more da da's to be Brown Sugar :p:

TheHeartbreaker
08-21-2006, 09:20 AM
It would still need a few more to be Satifaction, too.

chopps00
08-21-2006, 11:21 AM
da dadada da da da

kshelt76
08-28-2006, 09:19 PM
I'd have to say the Young Brothers with Iommi in a very close second. The other guys wrote some really great riffs as well, but when I think of Hard Rocking Riffs AC/DC and Sabbath are the first bands to come to my mind.

XMetallica73X
08-28-2006, 09:44 PM
this isnt even a contest, angus wins by a thousand points, every single one of AC/DC's songs has a great riff in it.