Lazy Shredders?


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acoustic87
01-03-2007, 03:42 PM
OK, I am not out to criticize shredders or the art of shredding, but I just wanted to know why shredders only use really light strings like 0.8's. Does it really make a big difference if they played on a heavier gauge because they sound better and have more sustain. Or is it just laziness because it takes less effort on a lighter gauge?

Resiliance
01-03-2007, 03:46 PM
I play on .10 gauge strings, so do a lot of shredders, a lot of them also use .09's just like most other guitarists... I only know two that use .08, thus your point is moot.

Guess it's something you heard somewhere, like most people when they talk about "shred" ;)

It's simple... If you're lazy, you'll never meet the standards shredding requires.

ClickClick
01-03-2007, 03:47 PM
Do you know for a fact all shredders use light gauges?

Kingyem0c0re
01-03-2007, 03:47 PM
I play .12's and can still shred.

jeowy
01-03-2007, 03:53 PM
hey, give the guy a break, he didnt mean for it to come out like that.
yeh not all shredders use .8's
those strings are supposed to sound more "metal" (when in fact i hardly notice the difference personally)
and thats why a lot of them use .8's

n0e
01-03-2007, 03:55 PM
i can shred better on .12s than .09s... i dont see a big difference with the left hand, and its easier on my right hand with thicker strings... my pick glides through them

samuwel
01-03-2007, 03:57 PM
hey, give the guy a break,

a phrase not often heard on these forums! jeowy i commend thee :golfclap:

insideac
01-03-2007, 03:58 PM
Uh..Im playing .13s, and still shred, but thats because it gives my low strings a heavier crunch., and I tune to C standard sometimes. Other than that, I use 9s because it is easier to bend strings and stuff. String guage doesnt mean you are lazy, fool :mad: It is also because some people's hands are not built heavy or big enough to use thick strings, or their technique doesnt allow for heavier strings, since you would have to apply more force, and since you are taking more time to apply the force, it takes longer for you to hit each note, therefore making you slower.

Third_Eye
01-03-2007, 03:59 PM
I prefer.12's to any lighter gauge, especially when I want to play anything fast. I can only think of a couple people who use .8's, famous or otherwise.

Resiliance
01-03-2007, 04:01 PM
hey, give the guy a break

I'm sure he's not offended, as he would have to be very oversensitive... Just pointing out the facts.

La Qotsa
01-03-2007, 04:03 PM
I like my 8s and 9s...it's the light feel, nothing to do with speed at all.

Stratwizard
01-03-2007, 04:07 PM
Why do you think shredders only use .08's?

Evil_Magician
01-03-2007, 04:11 PM
I love the way 9s sound and the light feeling.
It realy doesnt add that much speed but it feel easier.

Nelshizzle
01-03-2007, 04:23 PM
I play on .10's... dunno....

Erc
01-03-2007, 05:01 PM
I am only familiar with one guitarist that used .08s and that was Shawn Lane because he had arthritis.


I use .10s btw.

Evil_Empire24-7
01-03-2007, 05:25 PM
Todd Duane is one of the fastest shredders and he plays on 11's , in they end what matters is what u feel comfortable with.

Scorzerci
01-03-2007, 06:19 PM
The only shredders that I can think of that use '08s are Shawn Lane (because he had arthritis) and Yngwie (and some fat dude with a mullet that played '08s tuned down one or two steps...). I use 10's and am considering moving up to 11's.

Jaffaps2
01-03-2007, 06:24 PM
The only shredders that I can think of that use '08s are Shawn Lane (because he had arthritis) and Yngwie (and some fat dude with a mullet that played '08s tuned down one or two steps...). I use 10's and am considering moving up to 11's.

Haha that wasn't the Thunder From Down Under Frank Gambale was it?

malmsteen61
01-03-2007, 09:02 PM
i play .09s and sometimes .10s my hands are small though but i do like the feel of heavier strings but some chords kill my hands so yeah

madpickin03
01-03-2007, 10:51 PM
Its total preference over the control of the strings and tone...

Some like the flimsy feel of 8s/9s, others like sturdy 10s/above

TheUltimateSin
01-04-2007, 10:37 AM
9's and 10's for me. I can't stand any lighter a gauge.

metalmaster362
01-04-2007, 04:26 PM
i use 10s on my jackson that i shred with and i tune it down 1 step to D standerd, i have 11s on my strat in e flat, and 12s on my les paul in drop C

hepzibahbaptist
01-04-2007, 05:30 PM
Why do you think shredders only use .08's?
New pic I see. I use 9s.

bucky_2300
01-04-2007, 05:59 PM
9's for me. I'm actually really picky about this - the only strings I'll use are DR .09s. I've played D'Addario, Dean Markley, Elixir, and GHS, but I love DR strings. Nothing else quite does it. :D

I'm the same way about picks - I hate plastic ones. The only picks I use are Fender Cellulite Heavies, usually blue moto. ;)

Scorzerci
01-04-2007, 07:39 PM
Haha that wasn't the Thunder From Down Under Frank Gambale was it?
No it was just some fat wanker that I saw on youtube.

garden of grey
01-04-2007, 08:14 PM
.008's feel ridiculously stange to me. .009's feel like correct string tension in E standard to me. Every half step I go from there i like to add .001 to my string gauge. I would only use .008's if i were to play in F or F#.

Night_Lights
01-05-2007, 04:46 AM
im using 10s....thinking about using 9s from now on, played a set of them on a friends guitar, felt much better.

sock_demon
01-09-2007, 04:03 AM
I don't even know what gauge i use :wtf: yet i like it :p:

I use lighter strings.... i tried playing SMS on my rhythm guitarists guitar...

The guy has freaking lumberjack hands =.=

bluespunkmetal
01-09-2007, 07:50 AM
I use 11s and can shred fine....

But I'm considering 10s cuz I wanna start bending 2 steps....... UP !!!

Evil_Magician
01-09-2007, 11:25 AM
Ok i changed the gauge.

I change form 9s to 10s (regural slinky) because i started to play two steps down tuning and 9s detuned and played on jumbo frets dont realy play nice.

Theres preety much no difference beetween the two gauges except that the 10s sound better.

So now 9s<10s ftw. IMO

Axegrinder#9
01-09-2007, 12:59 PM
jesus. it all boils down to preference, whatever works for you.

AMGram
01-09-2007, 01:46 PM
String gauge is obviously a personal preference. I use 9s because I have small weak hands. Heavier strings give a much better tone but shredding doesn't always emphasize this. I'd say string guage contributes to tone more in blues playing for example, Stevie Ray Vaughn used 14s. Shred tone leans more towards amp models and distortion pedals most of the time.

bluespunkmetal
01-10-2007, 04:29 AM
^Shredding doesn't emphasize on good tone ??

And SRV used 13s !!

Resiliance
01-10-2007, 07:18 AM
String gauge is obviously a personal preference. I use 9s because I have small weak hands. Heavier strings give a much better tone but shredding doesn't always emphasize this. I'd say string guage contributes to tone more in blues playing for example, Stevie Ray Vaughn used 14s. Shred tone leans more towards amp models and distortion pedals most of the time.

What? That's ridiculous. Tell Eric Johnson or Scott Henderson that. :rolleyes:

xxdarrenxx
01-10-2007, 11:03 AM
2 words: personal preferences

ParanoiaMusic
01-10-2007, 12:33 PM
Uh..Im playing .13s, and still shred, but thats because it gives my low strings a heavier crunch., and I tune to C standard sometimes. Other than that, I use 9s because it is easier to bend strings and stuff. String guage doesnt mean you are lazy, fool :mad: It is also because some people's hands are not built heavy or big enough to use thick strings, or their technique doesnt allow for heavier strings, since you would have to apply more force, and since you are taking more time to apply the force, it takes longer for you to hit each note, therefore making you slower.

Right...which is why we call you lazy...

Those are all excuses. Hands are not built heavy? LMFAO... A quick lesson in anatomy...fingers have muscles in them. So you can use thick strings, apply more force and learn to deal with the differences by building up your goddamn finger muscles yourself.

Now, if you have short fingers you may not be able to. But then, if you have short fingers then we all know what that means....right? :haha And in that case...string gauge is the least of your problems...

Scorzerci
01-10-2007, 12:39 PM
Yes the first part of your post was pretty much true, but the second post was completly idiotic. You just contradicted yourself. As you said, fingers have muscles in them and having short fingers doesn't mean that your muscles can't get stronger.

ParanoiaMusic
01-10-2007, 12:47 PM
Yes the first part of your post was pretty much true, but the second post was completly idiotic. You just contradicted yourself. As you said, fingers have muscles in them and having short fingers doesn't mean that your muscles can't get stronger.

Of course I contradicted myself - it was joke... you know...the whole short finger bit? usually means short other things?

Scorzerci
01-10-2007, 12:49 PM
Ok my bad, the first sentence of of the second part didn't really seem like part of the joke to me.

ParanoiaMusic
01-10-2007, 01:13 PM
Ok my bad, the first sentence of of the second part didn't really seem like part of the joke to me.

Well, it was the set up. But you're right.

By the way, I use 11's. My style and application dictates my string gauge. I used to play heavier strings in a crappy band years ago because the singer was really low range and we had to tune down to C. This was before 7 string guitars came around. All of our covers sounded weird and off. I'm sure glad that's over....

eviledge87
01-13-2007, 08:56 PM
i use 11's. I have a problem were i push really hard on strings. It's cause i started playing on a shitty acoustic that forced me to push really hard, and my arms tense up when i play causing me to push harder. Also i play between standard and drop-C so 11's work for that. I know a guy who play 13's he doesn't shred though.

Erich yeung
01-15-2007, 10:22 PM
10s for shred/funk, 12s for metal. I find it easier to play on 10s cause of the light feel, and 12s gave me too much tension in the left hand. Though i still use 12s, its only when i get tired i can play my other guitar for a lighter touch.

aeginotu
01-15-2007, 11:20 PM
.009s supposedly let you play faster, doesn't make much of a difference. Age of strings, tuning, and scale length are more important. For example, my friend has a Squier strat, and I can bend better on it's .01 strings/25.5" scale length/Standard tuning than my .009 strings /24.75"/Half-step down guitar.

Dude121
01-19-2007, 04:04 PM
noob question:


when you say 9s,10s, and 11s, you're talking about the gauge of the high E string, right?

Evil_Empire24-7
01-20-2007, 06:04 AM
^yeah