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BrainDamage
01-15-2007, 04:25 PM
I am a huge Black Crowes fan, one of the only ones I know. They are one of my absolute favorite bands, I've seen them three times and own everything they've put out, plus a bunch of live shows. These guys are a great band, with some awesome studio albums and they kick ass live. I very rarely hear about them on this website (except for when I mention them), and I'm curious as to who else likes them. So...share your thoughts here :)

2011 EDIT: THE EXISTENCE OF THIS THREAD IN THE CLASSIC ROCK FORUM IS NOT A RESULT OF A CHANGE IN THIS FORUM'S RULES. It is simply here because let's face it, the only people who post in it these days are considered Classic Rock forum regulars. And if you want to be more specific, it's usually just me talking to myself. Modern Rock forum moderator DownInAHole. agreed to move this thread to this forum for our convenience.

Derigiberble
01-15-2007, 04:27 PM
Southern Harmony. 'Nuff said.

RainSong
01-15-2007, 04:28 PM
They are deffinently a solid band. i only have a greatest hits and have been meaning to get some of their albums. But yeah i really like um. im sure i'll like them more when i get some albums

igotabcrich32
01-15-2007, 04:29 PM
Amazing band, i think you, me, and Derigiberble are the only ones on here that can discuss them outside of Hard to Handle and Remedy.

anyways, whats everyone's favorite album, i've been taking a liking to Southern Harmony and Musical Companion.

BrainDamage
01-15-2007, 04:31 PM
Southern Harmony. 'Nuff said. couple of months ago I would have agreed with you...but lately, Amorica is where its at.

Derigiberble
01-15-2007, 04:31 PM
Three Snakes and One Charm. Seem to be everyone's least favourite and yet I share the opinion of Chris Robinson that it's the best thing they've ever done. The horns on that album are awesome.

BrainDamage
01-15-2007, 04:33 PM
^^I tend to think that more people dislike Lions. Three Snakes is a great album...I love One Mirror Too Many and Evil Eye.

Jules
01-15-2007, 04:36 PM
Yes they rock very hard,
I like how each album is so different from the others yet still the same.
Favorite album has to be...
each of the first two,
because the first one really shows some killer licks and good songwriting and the second one is like a free for all rock-jam.

BTW anybody know any good bands like them?

Lost_Rose
01-15-2007, 04:36 PM
I very rarely hear about them on this website (except for when I mention them

And the Zep thread of course :p:

anyway I saw them back in 2001 I think at the millenium stadium. Seeing them live and in an arena with like 80,000 other fans was amazing

BrainDamage
01-15-2007, 04:40 PM
^^this show?

http://www.crowesbase.com/tapelisting.cfm?TapeID=1294

Derigiberble
01-15-2007, 04:42 PM
If you like the Crowes, check out the obvious country artists like The Byrds, Gram Parsons and The Band, but also have a look into a band called American Minor. I love them plus I'm in their top friends on myspace cos i'm "supa cool".

http://www.myspace.com/americanminor

Guess who I am. ;)

EDIT: Aww yeah I forgot the Stereophonics were such good friends with the Crowes. There's a video somewhere on the net of them performing together with Jools Holland.

Lost_Rose
01-15-2007, 04:45 PM
^^this show?

http://www.crowesbase.com/tapelisting.cfm?TapeID=1294

Yep that be the one. They owned it they should of been the headliners but we cant get it all can we

Abe
01-15-2007, 05:29 PM
^I've been to see the Phonics, and would have much rather seen the Black Crowes supporting than who we got (the Dead 60's, who were okay).

They've got loadsa pretty decent songs, just good swaying bluesy rock riffs. Hard to Handle I think is my favourite one at the moment.

igotabcrich32
01-15-2007, 05:45 PM
What are all of your favorite songs from them?

right now mine would probably have to be Thorn In My Pride.

BrainDamage
01-15-2007, 05:47 PM
Yep that be the one. They owned it they should of been the headliners but we cant get it all can we That's an ok setlist...6 songs from Lions...yikes.

The three shows I was at were:
2005-06-22 (http://www.crowesbase.com/tapelisting.cfm?TapeID=1683)
2006-07-22 (http://www.crowesbase.com/tapelisting.cfm?TapeID=1882)
2006-11-08 (http://www.crowesbase.com/tapelisting.cfm?TapeID=1931)

the third show was one of the best I've ever been to.

Lessthanbass22
01-15-2007, 06:20 PM
Ya man the Black Crowes are electric, I have the greatest hits and amorica and i'm loving them. I remember hearing somewhere that one of the members left, any truth to this??

BrainDamage
01-15-2007, 06:33 PM
^^two members.

Marc Ford- guitar
Eddie Harsch- keyboards

replaced by

Paul Stacey- guitar
Rob Clores- keyboards

Paul and Rob are pretty good, but neither of them come close to Marc and Eddie.

igotabcrich32
01-15-2007, 07:10 PM
So i just stumbled upon some awesome stuff.

Sweet Pickle Salad with Chris on vocals and Marc Ford of guitar, it has some members of Jellyfish in it, and theres even flute in it, its really good sounding.

i also just found Ford's band Burning Tree's self titled album (there only one)

BrainDamage
01-15-2007, 08:06 PM
^^my god what a find, I've been looking everywhere for Burning Tree. I want to hear what they sounds like...Marc Ford is awesome.

igotabcrich32
01-15-2007, 09:39 PM
The albums really good, its different that i expected though (well you should know, you've probably already listened through the whole thing twice now).

the Sweet Pickle Salad is really good, i think i like it slightly more than Burning Tree, even though theres only 4 tracks, i wish they had recorded more.

BrainDamage
01-16-2007, 05:17 PM
^^I really like this Burning Tree album. I can't wait to hear some Big Toe, Foamfoot, and Hookah Brown.

for those who didn't know, all four of those bands featured atleast one member of the Black Crowes ;)

igotabcrich32
01-16-2007, 05:36 PM
i like Sweet Pickle Salad the most out of what i heard, i really wish they recprded an album with the lineup.

Derigiberble
01-17-2007, 05:36 AM
Chris Robinson and the New Earth Mud are pretty good too, but I don't think I'd buy their album.

reckless_life
01-17-2007, 08:41 AM
seeing as you're all so hardcore im hoping one of you has Last Time Again

i tried getting it off limewire months ago and it got stuck on 97%

can anyone put it on yousendit for me :) (in mp3 :) )

Derigiberble
01-17-2007, 02:16 PM
It's not that good, it's just a B side to Lickin'.

BrainDamage
01-17-2007, 06:40 PM
speaking of B-sides...anyone know where I can find a recorded version of Waiting Guilty (according to Crowesbase- "B-side of Shake Your Money Maker")? I've seen the song played twice live, and I love it. I'd like to hear a recorded version of the song.

reckless_life
01-19-2007, 04:42 AM
It's not that good, it's just a B side to Lickin'.

now you just made me want it even more

and now i know you have it

and i know where you live...

scotland

seriously tho please upload it on yousendit for me :)

BrainDamage
01-20-2007, 07:58 PM
Got around to listening to most of Southern Harmony today in the car...that album really is great. Thorn In My Pride and No Speak No Slave are my two favorites from it.

cusic
01-21-2007, 06:41 PM
I only listened to them properly a few weeks ago, after my bro was talking about 'em for ages and I gotta say they're awesome, I really love that kinda style and everything about it :D

al silver
01-21-2007, 07:05 PM
I saw one of their videos on The Tube Music chanell, pretty good, but thats bout it.

Derigiberble
01-22-2007, 01:33 PM
Southern Harmony was the first album I ever heard. My dad gave it to me when I wanted to expand my tastes in music. Thanks to that, I'm now obsessed (as is BrainDamage and a couple of other people I know ;)).

igotabcrich32
01-22-2007, 06:15 PM
The first i heard was Hard To Handle (obviously being a radio single, and the fact my dad played that alnum nonstop for like 10 years) but my favorite is deffinetely Southern Harmony.

BrainDamage
01-22-2007, 07:18 PM
with the exception of being obsessed with Hard to Handle as a little kid, the first time I really listened to them was June 22, 2005. Saw them open for Tom Petty.

http://www.crowesbase.com/tapelisting.cfm?TapeID=1683

Pretty good set, now that I look back on it. Sure wish I was more of a fan at that time, cause now I realize that Another Roadside Tragedy would kick ass live, and even better, as an opener. I do, however, vivdly remember the transition from Ballad into Wiser Time. That was cool :cool:

EDIT: I also remember My Morning Song, as well as Chris' time travel comment :p:

Derigiberble
01-24-2007, 11:11 AM
Yeah some of the Lost and Tall sessions are pretty underated. I can't believe Another Road Side Tragedy never made the album.

BrainDamage
01-24-2007, 08:28 PM
^^yeah, I'm surprised that the only official release of the song was just recently on Lost Crowes. Lost Crowes is very good, but the studio-quality-ready-to-be-released version of the Band album that I have is so much better :)

Oh yeah, one more thing...Never Forget This Song rocks :cool:

appetite4gnr
03-08-2007, 03:38 PM
The Crowes are sooo under-rated. They seriously rock hard, old school Rn'R! They are deffinitly one of my fav bands ever. All of their albums are amazing. I've been trying to get marc/rich's sound forever, but I can't seem to dail it in. I was thinking about getting a Fulldrive pedal?
anyway, unfortunately I haven't had the privelage of seeing them live. I'd love to, tho. I hear talks of a new album sometime soon! :D
so glad I found this thread...

BrainDamage
04-10-2007, 12:03 PM
So I thought I'd bring back this thread, considering I was able to get the pictures I took with my phone onto my computer from the 2006-11-08 Crowes show where I was basically leaning up on the railing.

http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/1133/richib6.th.jpg (http://img63.imageshack.us/my.php?image=richib6.jpg)
Rich during "Answers" I believe.

http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/5479/chriscf7.th.jpg (http://img296.imageshack.us/my.php?image=chriscf7.jpg)
Chris.

http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/8349/chris2sf9.th.jpg (http://img267.imageshack.us/my.php?image=chris2sf9.jpg)
Chris playing harmonica.

http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/1895/richandchrisnz4.th.jpg (http://img79.imageshack.us/my.php?image=richandchrisnz4.jpg)
Rich with Chris playing rhythm behind him.

http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/9730/sundaynightbuttermilkif5.th.jpg (http://img260.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sundaynightbuttermilkif5.jpg)
setting up for Sunday Night Buttermilk Waltz at the beginning of the second set.

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/61/richtelekb1.th.jpg (http://img411.imageshack.us/my.php?image=richtelekb1.jpg)
Rich playing a tele.

Page&HammettFan
04-10-2007, 03:41 PM
Cool :) Did Chris do any rhythm playing at that show? I think I've read about him playing guitar occasionally at their shows...

BrainDamage
04-10-2007, 05:02 PM
^^...

http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/1895/richandchrisnz4.th.jpg (http://img79.imageshack.us/my.php?image=richandchrisnz4.jpg)
Rich with Chris playing rhythm behind him.

Rich sang lead vocals and Chris played electric guitar on "Answers"

Chris played electric guitar on the Jam following "Downtown Money Waster"

Rich and Paul alone and acoustic on "Sunday Night Buttermilk Waltz"

Chris played acoustic guitar on Jam -> "Waiting Guilty"

Rich sang lead vocals and Chris played electric guitar on "It Takes A Lot To Laugh, It Takes A Train To Cry"

Chris played electric guitar on "Got To Get Better In A Little While"

Page&HammettFan
04-10-2007, 05:59 PM
How good of a guitar player is Chris then? Is he good at slide like Rich?

BrainDamage
04-10-2007, 06:03 PM
^^nah, he played mostly rhythm. I do remember him taking a lead once during the night, but I can't remember what song it was. It was most likely It Takes A Lot To Laugh. He wasn't too bad, either :)

EDIT: now that I go back and listen, his solo was definately during It Takes A Lot To Laugh.

Page&HammettFan
04-11-2007, 12:29 AM
So he's not bad at guitar, then? He's a damn fine singer....


Do you know if he ever contributed guitar riffs to their music? Or did he always just do the singing? Sorry if I'm bugging you with all of the singer/guitarist/musician questions :p:

xtopher_aaron
04-11-2007, 12:41 AM
I havent heard much of their music sadly..

although, i absolutely love She Talks To Angels.. truely amazing..

gets me all the time..

tomisamonkeyman
04-11-2007, 03:00 AM
Their album Shake Your Money Maker just rocks, Black Crowes are a band that just down right rocks.

Page&HammettFan
04-11-2007, 03:01 PM
Excellent lead playing in that band, too :golfclap:

BrainDamage
04-11-2007, 05:09 PM
^^Marc Ford :cool: (...well, atleast on Amorica, Southern Harmony, and Three Snakes).


Do you know if he ever contributed guitar riffs to their music? Or did he always just do the singing? Sorry if I'm bugging you with all of the singer/guitarist/musician questions :p: I'd assume he did. Though Rich is the driving force behind the Crowes. Chris brings the soul, Rich the power. This is made completely evident if you listen to Rich's solo album- Paper.

EDIT: just thought I'd add, Rich is definately the leader of this band. Chris might be the frontman, but the band is Rich's. It was awesome standing in front of him, watching him orchestrate a jam.

Page&HammettFan
04-11-2007, 09:47 PM
I was amazed to hear that he wrote the music at the age of FIFTEEN to She Talks to Angels.... That is, IMO, a brilliant composition.... I mean, it's not anything complicated. But songs don't have to be complicated to be good. The song is great.

Joe-Fish
04-11-2007, 10:24 PM
Not a big fan but I do love a few of their songs. My dad kind of got me into them.

SGstriker
07-26-2007, 05:21 AM
I was rumaging through my dads old cd's and I came across The Greatest Hits CD, so I popped it in the cd player, and it blew me away. They are one of my favorite bands now

johnnyvaughan
07-26-2007, 05:45 AM
What are all of your favorite songs from them?

right now mine would probably have to be Thorn In My Pride.

Couldn't agree with you more. :cheers:

I've also can't get enough of Bad Luck Blue Eyes Goodbye or Wiser Time.

SGstriker
07-26-2007, 05:52 AM
I like Twice as Hard, She Talks To Angels, Jealous Again, Hard To Handle...pretty much the entire Greatest Hits album.

Derigiberble
07-26-2007, 07:29 AM
Favourite Crowes songs:

Black Moon Creeping
No Speak No Slave
Cursed Diamond
Morning Song


In fact, pretty much anything they've ever recorded. There isn't a Black Crowes track that I don't like.

If you like She Talks To Angels you should check out a song called Descending that's on Amorica. Beautiful song.

SGstriker
07-26-2007, 07:32 AM
Favourite Crowes songs:

Black Moon Creeping
No Speak No Slave
Cursed Diamond
Morning Song


In fact, pretty much anything they've ever recorded. There isn't a Black Crowes track that I don't like.

If you like She Talks To Angels you should check out a song called Descending that's on Amorica. Beautiful song.

Im listening to it right now. Im liking it alot. His vocals never fail to disappoint.

pmc100
07-26-2007, 10:07 AM
I was really into them when the first came out. Had the first two albums but then kind of lost touch with them for years. I think its because I had them on tape and never got round to buying the CD's when I got a CD player. Anyway, recently I went through all my old tapes from years ago and downloaded what I could (my thinking being that I've already paid for it once). Now love the Crowes again. A proper old fashioned rock band.

Southern Harmony is still the best for me. Remedy, Thorn In My Pride. Hotel Illness, No Speak No Slave and My Morning Song are all immense. Hell, the whole album is.

johnnyvaughan
07-26-2007, 10:16 AM
What do you think of Live at The Greek with Jimmy Page? I just put it on the other day and forgot how great it is. I wish they would have been able to put some of their own songs on it with the classic Zeppelin tracks.

SGstriker
07-26-2007, 05:04 PM
I just looked a few videos of it up on youtube. I really enjoy the Ten Years Gone clip.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=oyK_SnQiXDM

Page&HammettFan
07-26-2007, 10:03 PM
What do you think of Live at The Greek with Jimmy Page? I just put it on the other day and forgot how great it is. I wish they would have been able to put some of their own songs on it with the classic Zeppelin tracks.
They had to leave it off because of those retarded dickwads at their record label.

BrainDamage
07-26-2007, 11:17 PM
I like Twice as Hard, She Talks To Angels, Jealous Again, Hard To Handle...pretty much the entire Greatest Hits album. in other words, the Shake Your Money Maker album :p:


If you like She Talks To Angels you should check out a song called Descending that's on Amorica. Beautiful song. I love Descending. I think the Black Crowes are the only band where I can safely say I like every single one of their ballads.

SGstriker
07-26-2007, 11:21 PM
in other words, the Shake Your Money Maker album :p:


eh, pretty much. Ive only been a big fan for about eh...2 days now lol

BrainDamage
07-26-2007, 11:26 PM
^^everyone's got to start somewhere...Shake Your Money Maker is where I got my start too :p: Don't get me wrong, it's a great album (Struttin' Blues rocks), but I greatly prefer Amorica, Southern Harmony, and 3 Snakes.

SGstriker
07-27-2007, 02:04 AM
^ I'll have to check those out.
Its music like that that I want to play when I get into a band.

BrainDamage
07-27-2007, 11:55 AM
^^keep one guitar in open G and you're halfway there :p:

SGstriker
07-28-2007, 01:01 AM
^^keep one guitar in open G and you're halfway there :p:

Ha, so, just like the stones?

Derigiberble
07-28-2007, 08:27 AM
Open G for the Slide, Open E for the Rhythm and Open F for some of the stuff off Lions (Generally best avoided).

BrainDamage
07-28-2007, 05:44 PM
^^the only Open E song I can think of offhand that the Crowes did is Descending (EDIT: and She Talks To Angels. Forgot about that one). And also, not all of Lions is bad...I love Midnight From The Inside Out and Soul Singing and Greasy Grass River are good :p: It's not a terrible album, but regarding post-3 Snakes stuff, it's definately not as good as By Your Side.

Ha, so, just like the stones? This is even more extreme. It's much easier to pick Black Crowes songs that aren't in Open G. Or any open tuning for that matter.

EDIT 2: btw, just got the ok to take a trip to Pennsylvania this coming friday to see the Black Crowes for a 4th time. Yay!

SGstriker
07-29-2007, 03:56 AM
^ $%$&BBQ%****.

lucky...I haven't seen them yet. Hopefully, they can make it up to the northwest sometime soon.

BrainDamage
07-29-2007, 01:03 PM
^^Yeah, as soon as I got the ok to go, my only ride to PA will be going on the 2nd and 3rd (day of the show) instead of the 3rd and 4th, which means I'm gonna miss it. I mean, I could still go, but I'd have nowhere to stay overnight and I wouldn't be able to get back the next day :(

Derigiberble
07-29-2007, 01:04 PM
^^the only Open E song I can think of offhand that the Crowes did is Descending (EDIT: and She Talks To Angels. Forgot about that one). And also, not all of Lions is bad...I love Midnight From The Inside Out and Soul Singing and Greasy Grass River are good :p: It's not a terrible album, but regarding post-3 Snakes stuff, it's definately not as good as By Your Side.

If you watch the Freak and Roll concert, all the acoustic stuff that Rich does is in Open E and all the stuff done by Marc is open G when he's playing the slide on top.

And I know Lions isn't that bad, but all the recordings they did live of that album are far better than the studio ones.

BrainDamage
07-29-2007, 06:03 PM
^^
Sunday Night Buttermilk Waltz- pretty sure this is open G
Cursed Diamond- positive this is open G
She Talks To Angels- positive this is open E
Wiser Time- positive this is open G
Non Fiction- I'd have to go back and look

Derigiberble
07-30-2007, 07:57 AM
^^
Sunday Night Buttermilk Waltz- pretty sure this is open G
Cursed Diamond- positive this is open G
She Talks To Angels- positive this is open E
Wiser Time- positive this is open G
Non Fiction- I'd have to go back and look

Piss off. I'm right. :p:

YEAH BABY!
07-30-2007, 11:43 PM
^ no you're not.

ScarletSpider
08-01-2007, 08:32 AM
Black Crowes rock. Have never seen them live, but the albums are great.

Just found a band that reminds me of them, The Answer (http://www.myspace.com/theanswerrock)... Anyone else see the similarity?

BrainDamage
08-01-2007, 05:21 PM
^^you really need to quit it with The Answer. Every single post I've seen from you has basically advertised them.

Piss off. I'm right. :p: you wish :)

Derigiberble
08-03-2007, 08:34 AM
you wish :)

Nah I am, watch Freak and Roll again. Rich pretty much keeps his guitar in open E because it's easier for the chords whilst Marc plays over him with he slide in open G.

And Sunday Night Buttermilk Waltz is all played in open E.

BrainDamage
08-03-2007, 06:25 PM
^^*sigh*

I keep a guitar in open G, mainly because I play a lot of Black Crowes stuff. That being said, I put in Freak and Roll, picked up my guitar tuned to open G, and started playing along. I also brought in my acoustic and tuned it to open E.

Sunday Night Buttermilk Waltz
Now granted, I can't play this song, because I've never found any music for it and I'm terrible at figuring stuff out by ear, but judging by the opening harmonics Rich plays and the last chord of the song, as well as a few things I played around with after watching Rich, I am positive this is in open G. Confirmed with my acoustic.

Cursed Diamond
I can play this song, and am 150% positive it's in open G (not to mention I saw Rich play this one from only a few feet away, using his ES-335, which is always in open G) but in case you wanted further proof, at 1:03:18 in the video (the first time through the intro chords, before Chris' vocals), try and play the barre chord Rich plays on the seventh fret in open E. Doesn't sound right does it? That's cause this one is open G as well.

She Talks To Angels
Open E, just like it is on the studio recording.

Wiser Time
Rich brings out what looks to be the same 12 string as Cursed Diamond, so that's a start. Now, I can play this song as well (I often prefer playing rhythm on this song...dunno why), and after strumming the first few chords (the very end of Ballad in Urgency, if you will) along with the DVD, I'm still positive this is open G.

Nonfiction
I can't play this song (where are all the Amorica tabs at?!), but Rich is capoed at the 3rd fret, and when I do that with my guitar in open G, it clearly sounds like Nonfiction. Not many defining shots of Rich on the video, but I still think it's safe to say this is in open G, but capoed at the 3rd fret.

So now what do you have to say? :)

BrainDamage
12-17-2007, 10:32 PM
Well it's been a while since anyone has posted here, but 2008 is looking to be a good year for Crowes fans.

New album with Luther Dickinson (North Mississippi All Stars) on guitar plus a tour to follow. Mmm, I'm excited :cool:

Cptbeefheart
12-17-2007, 10:39 PM
^Yea, I saw that the new album comes out in March. I'm definitely pumped up for that. First in about seven years, I believe. A tour would just be icing on the cake at this point.

BrainDamage
12-17-2007, 10:45 PM
^^if by careers you meant years, then yeah :p: Lions was released in 2001 (although you could technically call the second disc of the Lost Crowes- which was released in 2006 -an album...it was ready to be released in 1997, but was shelved at the last minute).

I'm interested to hear this new material. They played some new stuff (though none of it ended up on the album to be released) on their recent tours and it sounded good.

Cptbeefheart
12-17-2007, 10:52 PM
Yes, I meant years, my mind was clearly wandering :). I haven't picked up Lost Crowes yet, so I think I'll pick that up before the new album comes out. I assume the new material on the second disc is good?

BrainDamage
12-17-2007, 11:02 PM
^^Yeah, I actually have the original Band album that was ready to be released, so that's what I tend to listen to (and not Lost Crowes) but the tracklist is basically the same. It's been a while since I last listened to it, but it's a good album. Never Forget This Song, Paint An 8, and especially Another Roadside Tragedy are the standout songs in my opinion. The second disc (got the discs mixed up...Band is first, Tall is second) is material from the Tall sessions (early versions of Amorica stuff :cool: ) plus a couple of other unreleased songs recorded during those sessions.

Monkeygone2hvn
12-18-2007, 02:22 AM
i know marc fords son... he lives by me and i've chilled at his apartment.

BrainDamage
12-18-2007, 06:28 PM
^^yeah? Would you mind asking him what's on his father's pedalboard at the moment?

:)

SGstriker
01-03-2008, 07:53 PM
^ :haha
Is there a site that tells what gear Rich uses?

BrainDamage
01-07-2008, 12:24 AM
^^as far as effects go, I don't think many people know. Rich uses a rack, and I haven't seen anything online documenting what kind of effects he could be using (there was a great page on the Crowes official messageboard that had interviews throughout the years giving some insight into Rich/Jeff Cease (maybe?)/Marc Ford/Audley Freed's gear, but their boards are no longer up (and for the moment, neither is their website for that matter).

That being said, the only thing I do know offhand is that Rich owns some Fulltone gear. He has a gallery on his website showing all his guitars (www.richrobinson.net, click on gear) and here's a page from his old website showing all of his guitars/basses/keyboards/amps:

http://www.richrobinson.net/gear.php

Rich seems to love those Harry Joice amps, and I can tell you from experience that he turns those fuckers up LOUD.

Marc Ford is always fun, cause from what I've read, it seems like his board changes on a show to show basis :p:

EDIT: and by the way, you can listen (in a lower quality then the actual release) to Rich's solo album "Paper" on his website (seems like you can hear the full album). It shows where the driving force in the Black Crowes really is ;)
EDIT 2: regarding Rich's solo album, Answers is one of my favorite songs ever.

BrainDamage
01-09-2008, 06:39 PM
Soooo, I go to the Black Crowes' website today, which had been down for a couple of weeks last year (strange saying that...) figuring it should be up sometime soon maybe with some news, and what do I find?

TOUR DATES.

First date, March 2nd, 2008 at the Starland Ballroom in Sayreville, NJ. Now, this venue is 20 minutes from me, and as some of you that may know (if you know me well enough), I saw the Crowes there in '06 and it was one of the best shows I have ever seen. So I guess I can say I'm absolutely fucking overjoyed at this news :)

Another plus, this little tour they've put together features the entire Warpaint album as a first set. Keep in mind that that show is on March 2nd, and the album is released on March 4th. PRE-RELEASE LIVE PERFORMANCEEEE!

Ah I'm so happy right now :D

Cptbeefheart
01-09-2008, 07:55 PM
Why is it that they never play anywhere close to me? :(

SGstriker
01-09-2008, 08:34 PM
^ +1 :sad:

EDIT:
Holy crap!! I nearly did something in my pants when I saw that stack of guitar cases. I wish I had that many.

Page&HammettFan
01-09-2008, 08:38 PM
^
They played at a festival here a few months back, but unfortunately I had to miss that because the rest of the acts weren't worth the money it'd probably cost, I had a wedding to attend that day, and I was out of a job at that point :(

Cptbeefheart
01-09-2008, 08:45 PM
Last year, they played in Atlantic City one day after I left the beach house I stay at. I was so disappointed.

Page&HammettFan
01-09-2008, 10:50 PM
I don't know the Black Crowes very well, musically, but I know that they're a jam band and from what I've seen and heard everyone is extremely talented, so I know it'd be worth seeing them.

BrainDamage
01-09-2008, 11:09 PM
^^It is absolutely worth seeing them. Considering these shows will be two sets, I'd bet that you'll definitely get your money's worth too. Usually when the Black Crowes play two sets, the shows last anywhere from 2 and a half to 3 hours (they do a lot of huge jams), and depending on the length of the new album, I'd say these shows should be somewhat around the same length.

Why is it that they never play anywhere close to me? :( They'll add more dates :)

Page&HammettFan
01-10-2008, 12:43 PM
^
Come to think of it, I don't know why I thought they'd pass up New Orleans? Do the people there scare them that much? :p:

They scare me too....

I'm sure it'd be worth seeing them. From what I've seen on Concert TV OnDemand, they play epic jams (some of which last for 10 minutes :p: Who doesn't wanna hear that?).

BrainDamage
01-10-2008, 04:50 PM
^^For example, just yesterday I listened to a show with a 9 minute Downtown Money Waster which segued into a 22 minute Thorn In My Pride. Best jam I've ever heard from them though was the My Morning Song from 2006-11-08. That song on that night was off the fucking charts. Maybe I'm a little biased cause I was there, but the buildup at the end was insane.

And you never know where they'll play next...last time they played the Starland Ballroom (the same 2006-11-08 show I just mentioned), somebody threw a bottle of beer at Chris Robinson (Robinson responded with this "Hey who fucking threw that?! Which asshole threw that?! Who did it? Yeah, fuck off outta here! Nice. Cheers, nice knowing you man. Cheers, beatiful. You're parents did a wonderful job raising you." :haha). When that happened, I remember thinking to myself "shit...there goes any future shows at this venue" but alas, they're kicking off the Warpaint tour there :p:

EDIT: I'm assuming the show you saw on Concert TV On Demand is the Freak and Roll DVD. The first three songs (Halfway to Everywhere, Sting Me, No Speak No Slave), Space Captain, and the acoustic Sunday Night Buttermilk Waltz and Cursed Diamond are all very good on that DVD.
EDIT 2: Wiser Time was a bit of a let down though...the acoustic rhythm guitar gave it too light of a feel.
EDIT 3: Man, I can talk about this band all day :p:
EDIT 4: P&HF, they've played in New Orleans atleast once every year since 1990 (besides 93/94 and 96/97, and 2000)

Page&HammettFan
01-10-2008, 05:17 PM
^
Here, I'll post so that you can go on some :p:

I've actually got that Freak N' Roll CD, and the show was part of the DVD. The songs were Soul Singing and Hard to Handle (that they showed), and maybe there was another one once upon a time, but they probably removed it (bastards). I like it except for the fact that Robinson can't sing that stuff half as well as he does in the studio. But then again, it'd pretty hard to match all of those performances night after night and by the end of a tour he wouldn't be able to speak, much less sing :p:

Edit: Well, he can't sing Hard to Handle as well as he did in the studio. I don't have anything to compare the rest of the songs to :p:

BrainDamage
01-10-2008, 05:23 PM
^^I wasn't impressed by the Soul Singing on there, I've heard better. Hard to Handle as well. With that song it just seems like, even though it might be their most commercially successful song, and it is a good song, it's not really them.

Robinson can be night and day with his vocals. I've heard shows where he's sounded terrific, and then there are others where he's awful.

EDIT: He never sings Hard to Handle even remotely the same live. After playing a song 676 times live, I don't blame him :p:
EDIT: No Speak No Slave is a smokin' opening song.

Page&HammettFan
01-10-2008, 05:30 PM
^
Well that's like an interview I read with Alex Lifeson recently. He says that he probably doesn't play some of the chord voicings to songs like Tom Sawrer the same way that he did on an album anymore, because he in truth doesn't go back and listen to the songs to figure exactly what in the hell he did, and on each tour you've keep the song interesting for yourself :p: The gist of this, obviously, is that you've gotta keep things interesting from night to night or you'll go crazy :p:

So how many of the shows have you listened to from the Page/Crowes tour? Did he change the melodies up a lot from night to night on that? I would only imagine so, just from wear and tear on one's voice from night to night and adapting to it.

BrainDamage
01-10-2008, 05:32 PM
^^I only have one show from that tour, so I can't really say.

Cptbeefheart
01-10-2008, 07:03 PM
^From the two shows I heard from that tour, I really didn't hear a whole lot of change in the melodies. However, its just two shows, so I can't really say either.

BrainDamage
01-10-2008, 07:05 PM
^^I mean, granted, you're going to hear little variations, and a couple of added words here and there, but when they play Hard to Handle, Robinson doesn't come anywhere close to the recorded version at some times in the song :p:

Page&HammettFan
01-10-2008, 10:31 PM
^
Believe me, I know it :p: The one thing that I've always hated about live versions of that song is just that he doesn't sing it half as good as he does in the studio. I've never heard a live version of that song that -- vocally -- I enjoyed. He always removes words and **** and at times the songs just sound empty because of it.

BrainDamage
01-11-2008, 06:31 PM
^^I'm growing a little tired of Hard to Handle to be honest. I mean, sure, they do jam for a good 7 minutes at the end of the song when they play it live, but like I said before, it just doesn't seem like them anymore.

By the way, their new song sounds very good. Check their website (www.blackcrowes.com) and click "listen" to hear it.

Page&HammettFan
01-12-2008, 02:03 PM
^
Sure thing. As soon as my dad stops playing Galaga :p: My brother got that on the X-Box and that's pretty much the only game he's ever cared about, so we walk back there this morning and see him holding an X-Box remote and hear all these '80s game sounds :p:

Hard to Handle would get pretty boring after a while, but I don't listen to/play it very often, so it's still a fresh song for me :p:

Cptbeefheart
01-13-2008, 04:54 PM
I just was listening to Amorica for the first time in awhile and Wiser Time came through. Damn that song is great, that slide solo is awesome. Just though I'd mention that. :p:

BrainDamage
01-13-2008, 06:27 PM
^^My favorite part of Wiser Time is when the keyboard solo comes in. It's so laid back, I love it. The vocal harmonies in that song are also very good in my opinion (no matter how many people think Rich can't sing).

Page&HammettFan
01-13-2008, 06:53 PM
I've got that song on a Greatest Hits comp. I'll need to check it out later. Thanks for mentioning it. :)

BrainDamage
01-13-2008, 06:58 PM
^^Does Ballad in Urgency precede it? The segue between the two is great (though they might have added the chords from the very end of Ballad to the beginning of Wiser, to make it a smooth opening).

You know, speaking of Wiser Time, in all the recent shows I have that include that song, the keyboard solos have pretty much been very bad. Sorry Adam MacDougall, but it sounds like a 5th grader is playing it. He sounds good on some other stuff (Descending, for instance...though no one can recreate Ed's style of playing that one), but his Wiser Time solos are weak.

EDIT: Is this (http://www.amazon.com/Black-Crowes-Greatest-1990-1999-Progress/dp/B000062XAZ/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1200265434&sr=8-1) the greatest hits you're talking about?

Page&HammettFan
01-13-2008, 07:06 PM
In order:

Jealous Again
Twice As Hard
Hard to Handle
She Talks to Angels
Remedy
Sting Me
Thorn In My Pride
Bad Luck Blue Eyes Goodbye
A Conspiracy
Wiser Time
Good Friday
Blackberry
Kickin' My heart Around
Go Faster
Only A Fool
By Your Side

16 songs in all if you didn't count 'em. What do you think? Good? Bad?

BrainDamage
01-13-2008, 07:22 PM
^^Jealous Again, Twice As Hard, Hard to Handle, She Talks To Angels are all good, but my favorite song from the first album is Struttin' Blues. Remedy, Sting Me and Thorn are all among their best (as popular as they may be), Bad Luck Blue Eyes Goodbye is a nice ballad-type, but far from their best (song or ballad), and if they were going to put another one from Southern Harmony, I would have chosen No Speak No Slave or My Morning Song. A Conspiracy is far from one of the best on Amorica (Gone, Cursed Diamond, She Gave Good Sunflower, P.25 London, Ballad-->Wiser, Descending are all better tracks if you ask me), but Wiser Time has always been a favorite of mine. Good Friday is a great song (sounds a bit like Breathe by Pink Floyd, no?), but Blackberry should have been replaced, that's probably the weakest song on Three Snakes and One Charm in my opinion. The last four are all good songs (I love Go Faster and Kickin' My Heart Around) but Virtue and Vice and especially Horsehead could replace Only a Fool and By Your Side.

Page&HammettFan
01-13-2008, 08:44 PM
^
I'm not a really big fan of Kickin' My Heart Around. Good Friday is awesome, though. I honestly haven't listen to that whole album many times, though, and don't remember half of the tracks :p: I remember thinking "If this track has Marc Ford playing then I see why Matt talks about him so much" though :p: You mentioned him and I heard a song that I thought he played on and said "Holy ****!"

BrainDamage
01-13-2008, 10:08 PM
^^Take a listen to No Speak No Slave from Southern Harmony and Musical Companion. Ford tears it up on lead guitar. He played with them on Southern Harmony, Amorica, and Three Snakes and One Charm. Tracks 5-12 cover those albums on that greatest hits CD.

Cptbeefheart
01-13-2008, 11:26 PM
Yea, I started with that greatest hits compilation as well before moving to the actual albums. Its a good jumping point for an early Crowes fan. But there are some songs on there that don't fit. Blackberry (like Matt said) is one of the band's weakest songs and A Conspiracy isn't really a strong track either.

BrainDamage
01-14-2008, 12:30 AM
^^I like A Conspiracy, it's just that the rest of Amorica is so good, I often overlook it.

Page&HammettFan
01-14-2008, 02:18 AM
Black Berry is cool. I really love that song :D

BrainDamage
01-14-2008, 04:47 PM
^^The rest of Three Snakes and Once Charm is much better though ;)

Page&HammettFan
01-14-2008, 09:04 PM
^
Eh, that's subjective. I don't really like Kicking My Heart Around, but you do :p:

I'm definitely gonna start buying some of their albums, though. Would you think that buying them in order would be a good idea, just to slowly get introduced to where they are now from where they were? I prefer their older stuff, from what I've heard, so that's the way I'm thinking of going with this.

BrainDamage
01-14-2008, 09:41 PM
^^It doesn't really matter, you can't really go wrong with any of their releases, with the possible exception of Lions. Lions is definitely their weakest studio effort, but it does have some very good tracks on it (Midnight From The Inside Out, Greasy Grass River, Soul Singing mainly).

Page&HammettFan
01-14-2008, 09:59 PM
^
Then I'll probably buy that one last :p:

I've never been to a proper concert; do you think they'll be selling War Paint at those shows? If so, then I'll just wait 'till I see 'em (if I can get tickets) to buy that one.

BrainDamage
01-14-2008, 10:05 PM
^^I don't think they'd be selling the album at the shows, but it would be nice to buy it two days before it comes out if they are :)

Speaking of live Crowes...I wouldn't even spend the money on their Live album, and actually, I wouldn't buy the Freak and Roll CD either (I have the DVD though). Now I know this is coming from someone with over 70 Black Crowes shows, but there are just too many quality recordings of better shows out there for me to want to pay (keyword "pay" ;) ) for those releases.

Page&HammettFan
01-14-2008, 10:12 PM
^
I bought the Freak and Roll CD a long time ago, but I don't plan on buying any more of their live albums :p: I'm hoping to get into bootleg shows soon enough, and based on what you've said there are supposed to be Black Crowes shows in abundance, so I'll have no trouble getting shows that I like :)

BrainDamage
01-14-2008, 11:43 PM
^^You know, I went back and checked my external drive, and sure enough, I have one of the shows that their Live CD (the one that was released in 2002) was recorded at :p: It was recorded on October 30th and 31st of 2001...I have the 31st.

The Crowes didn't allow audience taping at the show that was recorded for the Freak and Roll release, but it turns out they released the entire show (minus the first ever cover of Loving Cup by the Rolling Stones) on the CD/DVD.

Page&HammettFan
01-15-2008, 12:36 AM
^
They probably did that so that people would actually buy it. I'd bet willing to be any kind of money that their Live CD didn't do half as well as Freak and Roll purely because people knew they could get it in the form of a bootleg for free.

Flea's#1fan
01-15-2008, 06:25 AM
Ive heard really good stuff about these guys. Can someone recommend me some songs that will get me into them?

Cptbeefheart
01-15-2008, 09:49 AM
Start with Shake Your Moneymaker and go from there.

DownInAHole.
01-15-2008, 01:03 PM
Amorica for the win.

BrainDamage
01-15-2008, 04:25 PM
Ive heard really good stuff about these guys. Can someone recommend me some songs that will get me into them? Just buy Southern Harmony and Musical Companion and/or Amorica and work from there.

Page&HammettFan
01-15-2008, 04:33 PM
I wish I knew more about the Crowes when times like these came around... :(

But if you're just looking for songs, I doubt you could go wrong with any of the following:

Hard to Handle
Bad Luck Blue Eyes Good Bye
She Talks to Angels
Remedy
Wiser Time
Jealous Again
Twice As Hard

God that's all I can think of off the top of my head because I haven't memorized any actual song titles :p:

BrainDamage
01-17-2008, 04:42 PM
I just bought my tickets for the March 2nd show :cool:

And I'm listening to the sixth of seven shows at the Hammerstein Ballroom in 2005 :) That was a smokin' set of shows...man what a comeback.

Page&HammettFan
01-17-2008, 05:34 PM
Did they play Bad Luck Blue Eyes at that show? I've been really diggin' that song lately. It's awesome :D

BrainDamage
01-17-2008, 05:38 PM
^^Actually, yeah they did. I've been listening to these shows without looking at the setlists, so I don't know what's coming.

So far it's been:
Don't Do It (The Band's arrangement)
Sting Me
Another Roadside Tragedy
Bad Luck Blue Eyes Goodbye
Let Me Share The Ride-->
Mellow Down Easy (Willie Dixon)
Sister Luck
Jam-->
Thorn In My Pride (is it sad that I knew this was coming after a couple of seconds of the 11 minute jam that preceded it?)

Cptbeefheart
01-17-2008, 05:47 PM
I would be pumped if they played Don't Do It at a show I went to. I love that song to death.

BrainDamage
01-17-2008, 05:50 PM
^^It's a good song, but I'm kinda on the fence about it as an opener. I've heard some nice ones (the one from this show I'm listening to now was pretty good), but then there were others (2005-03-25) that seemed to set the tone for what turned out to be a lackluster show.

Cptbeefheart
01-17-2008, 06:00 PM
Eh, opener? I don't like that at all. I think it would fit a lot better mid-set.

Page&HammettFan
01-17-2008, 06:33 PM
I like that set, based on what of it I looked at, and what I know from it.

BD, it's not sad that you knew it was going to be Thorn In My Pride, but actually a bit hilarious :haha What are you, their biggest fan? :p:

BrainDamage
01-17-2008, 06:37 PM
^^Nah, I guess it's just the little clues that I pick up on from the jams they do in other shows I've heard. For example, the Black Moon Creeping jam is a dead giveaway :p:

Here's that full set from that show if you were wondering:

2005-03-29 Hammerstein Ballroom

Don't Do It
Sting Me
Another Roadside Tragedy
Bad Luck Blue Eyes Goodbye
Share The Ride ->
Mellow Down Easy
Sister Luck
Jam -> Thorn's Progress -> Thorn In My Pride
Sometimes Salvation
High Head Blues
A Conspiracy
By Your Side
Under A Mountain
Remedy
- encore -
Shake Your Money Maker
Happy

Overall, a very good listen, but the best shows from this '05 Hammerstein run were easily 2005-03-26 and 2005-03-27.

EDIT: Well, looks like part of that Thorn In My Pride intro jam actually has it's own title...Thorn's Progress.

Cptbeefheart
01-17-2008, 06:40 PM
^Is that Happy the Rolling Stones' Happy?

BrainDamage
01-17-2008, 06:40 PM
^^Yes :)

Cptbeefheart
01-17-2008, 08:31 PM
I don't know if I like a show that ends on a cover. I mean Happy is a great song, but I think I would rather have an original close the show.

BrainDamage
01-17-2008, 08:38 PM
^^well then don't see the Black Crowes :p: Nine times out of ten they'll end with a cover as an encore. The first time I saw them they were the opener, so no encore, but the second time I got Around and Around and the third was Got To Get Better In A Little While. When they don't close with a cover, the encore is usually something like Hard to Handle, Twice As Hard, or She Talks To Angels.

Cptbeefheart
01-17-2008, 08:41 PM
^Oh, I could definitely deal with a cover closer if I got to see them. It is cool to see them work a couple covers into the sets. Probably keeps the band on their toes.

BrainDamage
01-17-2008, 08:47 PM
^^Yeah. They do a lot of covers...I've got 11 discs worth of straight up cover songs they've done over the years.

Cptbeefheart
01-17-2008, 08:49 PM
^Nice, where did you get that?

BrainDamage
01-17-2008, 08:56 PM
^^bt.etree.org.

Cover Me With A Good Dream Pt. 1 (http://bt.etree.org/details.php?id=9731) (5 discs, spans the beginning of their career to '97, with a couple of tracks from 2001)
The Year of the Crowes Vol. I (http://bt.etree.org/details.php?id=19926) (3 discs, from the 2005 tour)
The Year of the Crowes Vol. II (http://bt.etree.org/details.php?id=508388) (3 discs, from the 2005-2006 tours)

Cptbeefheart
01-17-2008, 08:58 PM
^Thanks a lot. I'll definitely be grabbing those in the near future.

Page&HammettFan
01-18-2008, 01:05 AM
I liked that Page and the Crowes Live at the Greek album because of the covers :D The Crowes cover songs so well. I'd be perfectly happy in hearing them do a cover at the end of the set :)

Thanks for posting that set Matt. Looks like it was a great show.

BrainDamage
01-19-2008, 09:57 AM
Mmm, I love the song Virtue and Vice (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdVO6ot7VI0). That video is from 2007-08-12 where Virtue and Vice was an opener. What a way to open a show :liplick:

Page&HammettFan
01-19-2008, 09:43 PM
^
The rhythm guitar in the intro to that song is awesome :)

BrainDamage
01-20-2008, 01:55 AM
^^That's exactly why I love it. Rich Robinson is awesome.

Page&HammettFan
01-20-2008, 02:50 AM
^
Damn right. The more I listen to that Greatest Hits comp of mine the more I wanna buy their records! Unfortunately I don't have a job right now so I don't have the money to buy them with...

BrainDamage
01-21-2008, 04:26 PM
^^Psst...check your PMs ;)

Page&HammettFan
01-21-2008, 05:55 PM
Happy Martin Luther King day indeed :cheers: Thanks for sending that. Can't wait to see what's in there :)

BrainDamage
01-22-2008, 07:39 PM
I'm gonna keep posting in here whether anyone cares or not, cause I like rambling on about this band :p:

I'm listening to 2006-07-14, a show which contained the first full acoustic set since 1997-02-22 (A show I also have), and I'm liking it. So far it's been:

Good Friday (I love this song. Three Snakes is a great album)
Wiser Time (FULL acoustic, as opposed to the Freak and Roll version...this one is much better. A user on crowsebase mentioned that the solo sections were switched around, I'll have to go back and listen cause I didn't pay attention close enough to realize)
Jealous Again
Girl From The North Country
She Talks To Angels (:haha at the crowd singing the first line too early)
Darling of the Underground Press

Page&HammettFan
01-22-2008, 11:34 PM
^
That sounds like an awesome set. And yeah, I'm gonna keep talking about this band, because they're one of those rare ones that has me utterly intrigued :p:

Good Friday and Wiser Time are both so awesome. I can't picture Jealous Again acoustic, though, to be honest :haha

BrainDamage
01-22-2008, 11:59 PM
^^I like Jealous Again acoustic. Keeps an old song fresh.

The full set was this:

- Set One (acoustic) -
Good Friday
Wiser Time
Jealous Again
Girl From The North Country
She Talks To Angels
Darling Of The Underground Press
Wyoming And Me
Let It Be Gone
Welcome To The Goodtimes
Cold Boy Smile
Ain't No More Cane On The Brazos
Let It Bleed

- Set Two (electric) -
Lay It All On Me
High Head Blues -> Jam
Magic Rooster Blues
Downtown Money Waster -> Jam ->
Jam -> Thorn In My Pride
Song Of Love
Girl From A Pawnshop
Soul Singing
L.A.
Hard To Handle
Remedy
- encore -
Boomers Story

Solid show altogether, though Boomer's Story is a weak encore. Magic Rooster Blues should be put on some future album, that song sounds very good. Hard to Handle was the short version (no extended outro jam), and I believe Soul Singing was also a standard short version. L.A. (yes, Neil Young's L.A., with Marc Ford on vocals) was awesome. I :heart: the Crowes covering Neil Young. Downtown $-->Thorn was a good half hour, with a drum solo in Thorn.

Page&HammettFan
01-23-2008, 02:43 AM
I can't wait to see those guys, because I know it's gonna rock :) I'm gonna see so many concerts this year :D Not to mention when our local Jazz Festival rolls around... Last year they had the Counting Crowes, George Benson, ZZ Top, and many many others... Rod Stewart was one of them. I'm hoping for Gov't Mule this year and the Crowes would be awesome too, but I doubt they'll be there. I'm not ruling out Gov't Mule though, because my dad saw them there once :D

BrainDamage
01-23-2008, 07:24 PM
http://www.blackcrowes.com/Release_SO_ONOS.html

A major market multiple night U.S. tour will begin in May, with cities and venues to be announced in the near future. :cool:

Cptbeefheart
01-23-2008, 09:50 PM
^Thats great news for me...

BrainDamage
01-23-2008, 10:38 PM
^^Yeah, I'm interested to see some more tour dates. I'd love to see them twice (three times? Depends on where they play) in two months. I'm also wondering whether it'll be "An Evening With..." or if they'll play with an opener (or two).

EDIT: I'm listening to the 2006-07-12 show right now...LUCIFER SAM ENCORE!! :haha
EDIT 2: 2006-07-15 is next
EDIT 3: Anyone here ever hear the song Waiting Guilty? They threw this one in the 3 spot in this show I'm listening to, and man do I love it. First time I ever heard the song was the 2nd time I saw them, they opened with it, it kicked ass. The song starts with a jam where everyone just kinda noodles into it and then they all come together as the main riff starts :liplick:

Page&HammettFan
01-24-2008, 09:51 PM
I'm gonna be checking YouTube for sure now...

MAYNARD
01-25-2008, 03:58 PM
^^Yeah, I'm interested to see some more tour dates. I'd love to see them twice (three times? Depends on where they play) in two months. I'm also wondering whether it'll be "An Evening With..." or if they'll play with an opener (or two).

EDIT: I'm listening to the 2006-07-12 show right now...LUCIFER SAM ENCORE!! :haha
EDIT 2: 2006-07-15 is next
EDIT 3: Anyone here ever hear the song Waiting Guilty? They threw this one in the 3 spot in this show I'm listening to, and man do I love it. First time I ever heard the song was the 2nd time I saw them, they opened with it, it kicked ass. The song starts with a jam where everyone just kinda noodles into it and then they all come together as the main riff starts :liplick:


They kicked off the last show I went to with Waiting Guilty, closed with Don't Do It.

10-19-07 The Pageant in St Lou. Love the Crowes was thinkin about attendin the Owensboro show, to hear the new album.

Page&HammettFan
01-25-2008, 06:54 PM
^
I don't see any dates near me, but I'm sure they'll probably play the Voodoo Fest. in October. They have for the past two years, so I don't see why they wouldn't this year.

BrainDamage
01-25-2008, 08:41 PM
10-19-07 The Pageant in St Lou. Love the Crowes was thinkin about attendin the Owensboro show, to hear the new album. Better hurry, these "one night only" shows are selling out like crazy.

I'm listening to 2006-07-21, and I'm halfway through Thorn In My Pride, which was split in two by a drum solo. As the solo was coming to an end, Steve Gorman started playing the drum solo from The Beatles' The End :haha I've also heard Audley Freed do a Les Brers In A Minor tease during the intro chords to Wiser Time on at least one occasion.

Page&HammettFan
01-26-2008, 04:39 PM
^
Those guys sound like they have a lot of fun when they play together. The shows are probably a blast to see, too. I can't wait 'till they're here again :D

thankyougermany
02-16-2008, 01:28 PM
I love the Black Crowes, they're my favorite band, I wanna see them but all the Warpaint shows are sold out :sad:

BrainDamage
02-16-2008, 03:39 PM
^^Yeah, they sold out ridiculously fast.

Two weeks till Starland :cool:

Absyth
02-28-2008, 04:26 PM
A new album "Warpaint" comes out tomorrow right?

Zanardi
02-28-2008, 04:32 PM
I've never seen the Crowes live, but I'm going to see them in Atlanta next weekend. I'm pretty stoked to say the least. Am I right to expect great things?

Cptbeefheart
02-28-2008, 05:10 PM
A new album "Warpaint" comes out tomorrow right?

March 4th, I thought?

BrainDamage
02-28-2008, 07:14 PM
^^March 4th indeed. I plan to pick it up as soon as I get home from school.

I've never seen the Crowes live, but I'm going to see them in Atlanta next weekend. I'm pretty stoked to say the least. Am I right to expect great things? 2 sets, I'd guess at least 2 and a half hours of music, Warpaint in its entirety, Luther Dickinson + Rich Robinson guitar interplay...I'd say you're right to expect great things :)

THREE DAYS TILL OPENING NIGHT AT STARLAND :D

BrainDamage
03-03-2008, 04:44 PM
http://profile.ultimate-guitar.com/BrainDamage/blog/21609/

:)

BrainDamage
03-05-2008, 12:00 AM
Anyone pick up Warpaint yet? I bought it today and have listened to it twice, I'm very pleased with it. Although it's a completely different style from their previous two albums, it's definitely a much better album then Lions, and I'd say I like it more then By Your Side as well.

Cptbeefheart
03-05-2008, 09:30 AM
I didn't get out to buy it yesterday (ice storm in PA), but I'll try to get it today.

Cptbeefheart
03-05-2008, 10:35 PM
I just picked Warpaint up and listened to it. Like BD said, its definitely better than Lions. I dunno about it being better than By Your Side though. Then again, I do like that record more than most.

BrainDamage
03-05-2008, 10:43 PM
^^Yeah, a lot of Crowes fans don't like By Your Side, which I find strange. I definitely think it's a good album (Horsehead and Virtue and Vice are two of the best songs they've ever done if you ask me), and it's full of Rich Robinson (he's the only guitarist on it, and he's got some killer riffs throughout), but I just think Warpaint is more consistent.

Cptbeefheart
03-05-2008, 10:50 PM
I do like the addition of Luther Dickinson, I'd never really heard him extensively until this album. However, he is a very solid guitarist. I think he makes the band's sound fuller than it was on Lions.

TeXaS_db
03-07-2008, 01:48 AM
OMG, the new BC cd (WARPAINT) is awesome. southern, blues, country, folk, and amazing rock.
every song is written so well and amazingly played. album of the year, hell, best album of the decade.

Cptbeefheart
03-07-2008, 09:13 AM
^I wouldn't go that far. The album has a couple weak spots, like God's Got It....

TeXaS_db
03-07-2008, 01:10 PM
^I wouldn't go that far. The album has a couple weak spots, like God's Got It....
that songs awesome, very bluesy

BrainDamage
03-07-2008, 05:11 PM
^I wouldn't go that far. The album has a couple weak spots, like God's Got It.... :haha I love God's Got It. In my opinion, the only weak song on there is There's Gold In Them Hills.

Walk Believer Walk is my favorite song on the album at the moment.

100Roy001
03-11-2008, 03:16 PM
I love the ballad Oh Josephine. Pretty solid album, I am recently starting to get into the BCs. Are there any other albums you recommend?

BrainDamage
03-11-2008, 03:30 PM
^^Amorica and/or Southern Harmony and Musical Companion.

BrainDamage
03-13-2008, 06:04 PM
http://www.blackcrowes.com/liveblackcrowes.html

:eek:

Cptbeefheart
03-13-2008, 07:40 PM
^I'll be ready March 31st :)

BrainDamage
03-14-2008, 03:53 PM
^^March 31st? I'll be on at midnight on the 30th :p: I would really love to get the opening Warpaint show for obvious reasons :D

I was also just reading the article on the Crowes in the new Rolling Stone issue, and it seems as if the Brothers Robinson did an acoustic duo session before Warpaint was released. I'd be interested to hear that stuff.

Cptbeefheart
03-14-2008, 07:41 PM
^I doubt we will hear that until after the Crowes tour behind Warpaint.

MAYNARD
03-15-2008, 09:21 AM
^I doubt will hear that until after the Crowes tour behind Warpaint.

I think he's talkin about the Brothers of a Feather tour. They released a cd/dvd of it. One of the best albums of last year. And the dvd is pretty sweet too.

Cptbeefheart
03-15-2008, 09:39 AM
^Yea, I know that. But the Rolling Stone article said Chris and Rich recorded new material right before they started the One Night Only shows.

MAYNARD
03-15-2008, 09:41 AM
^Yea, I know that. But the Rolling Stone article said Chris and Rich recorded new material right before they started the One Night Only shows.

Which issue? Who's on the cover?

Cptbeefheart
03-15-2008, 10:59 AM
^Barack is on the cover, its a pretty negative article focusing more on the relationship between the brothers than the actual music. Still, it is worth a read.

appetite4gnr
03-31-2008, 05:34 AM
Warpaint makes up for all the ****ty albums i've bought over the past few years...Very pleased with it. Since I bought it, I like music again, lol.

Carswell98
03-31-2008, 05:36 AM
So I was sifting through youtube videos the other day, and I was watching one of my favorites, Ben Harper, when I noticed something, Marc Ford is his band's guitarist, I had no idea, and I've been listening to him for years :p:

BrainDamage
03-31-2008, 04:07 PM
^^Yeah, Ford played with Harper from '03 to '04 I believe, just before the Crowes toured for the first time since the hiatus.

rockinlespaul
04-01-2008, 01:13 PM
Downloading now. Thanks for the heads-up guys.

BrainDamage
04-01-2008, 06:32 PM
The One Night Only EP is great. I highly recommend signing up at http://www.livedownloads.com/blackcrowes/ and downloading it.

BrainDamage
04-12-2008, 07:41 PM
TOUR TOUR TOUR TOUR TOUR TOUR TOUR!

http://www.blackcrowes.com/TBC_2008_01.html

I'm definitely looking to get to one of the two Town Hall, NYC acoustic shows, as well as the Atlantic City show and maybe I'll even make the trip to the Hammerstein if I have the money. I'm even considering taking a road trip to Cleveland to get to that show, the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and Cedar Point all at once.

Cptbeefheart
04-13-2008, 10:49 AM
The Cleveland date is the day I'm seeing DMB in Cuyahoga Falls, so I can't go to that one. Maybe I'll be able to scrounge enough money up to see the Pittsburgh show on August 5th.

BrainDamage
04-21-2008, 11:45 AM
So I got shut out of the Town Hall pre-sale :( I'm going to try again this week for the general on sale and I'm definitely going to at least one Philly show.

By the way, this band's current lineup kicks ass acoustic. I've got the audio from the VH1 Unplugged performance (the video is somewhere on VH1's website I believe), it sounds very good.

BrainDamage
04-23-2008, 10:47 PM
Change of plans. Town Hall show is a go for me...third row, stage right (Luther's side).

I'm excited :)

Philly pre-sales on Friday.

rockinlespaul
05-03-2008, 01:14 PM
I'll be going to the show at the Palace in Albany.

Zoso_23
06-07-2008, 06:24 PM
Saw the Black Crowes last night and they sure rocked the place. I was pretty disappointed though cause they didn't play Hard to Handle or She Talks to Angels. Don't know why either, the crowd was expecting it. :confused:

aerosmith513
06-08-2008, 07:11 AM
I was watching the Unplugged Black Crowes... I LOVE THEM its tuff Guns N Roses or Black Crowes.. My top favorite bands. But anyways Why was Luther Dickenson playing mostly lead. Rich is like a original member. But oh well I love them and im seeing them june 28th.

BrainDamage
06-08-2008, 01:50 PM
Saw the Black Crowes last night and they sure rocked the place. I was pretty disappointed though cause they didn't play Hard to Handle or She Talks to Angels. Don't know why either, the crowd was expecting it. :confused: Because they've played Hard to Handle 682 times and She Talks To Angels 468 times live, they are touring to promote a new album, so four of the seven songs were taken from that, and 90% of their song catalog is better then those two songs :)

But anyways Why was Luther Dickenson playing mostly lead. Rich is like a original member. But oh well I love them and im seeing them june 28th. Rich is their rhythm guitarist, and always has been (except on the By Your Side album, where he played all the guitar parts). During live shows, Rich will take a few solos, but the majority of the lead parts go to their lead guitarist, who for this tour is Luther.

Less then a month until Philly! Five months until the acoustic Town Hall show :cool:

BrainDamage
06-30-2008, 12:11 PM
Two days until Philly :cool:

The first two shows of the tour that weren't festival/opening for DMB shows looked like pretty decent shows.

http://www.crowesbase.com/tapelisting.cfm?TapeID=2083
http://www.crowesbase.com/tapelisting.cfm?TapeID=2084

Go Tell The Congregation better stick around on this tour. I love that song.

soundgarden19
06-30-2008, 12:17 PM
I really like these guys, I have Shake Your Money Maker and I just picked up the greatest hits and they are both really good.

BrainDamage
07-03-2008, 01:30 AM
Go. See. This. Band.

Seriously, the show I just saw was outstanding.

slidething31
07-16-2008, 12:23 PM
They are playing iin Santa Barbara in September with G. Love. That would be awesome, but I don't know if I'll be able to make it.

Cptbeefheart
07-20-2008, 09:53 PM
Anyone else watching the webcast on AT&T Blueroom?

MakeItWitChu
07-20-2008, 11:01 PM
I've been listening to Amorica alot lately, what other albums would everyone recomend?

BrainDamage
07-20-2008, 11:19 PM
^^Southern Harmony and Musical Companion, Three Snakes and One Charm or Lost Crowes. Warpaint is also very good, though it's very different from the big three (Amorica, SHAMC, TSAOC). I happen to like By Your Side even if it's very straight forward and similar sounding rock (Horsehead and Virtue and Vice alone outweigh the bad). Lions is very hit or miss (though Midnight From The Inside Out is fantastic). Shake Your Money Maker is classic, though not very diverse.

Anyone else watching the webcast on AT&T Blueroom? I was too busy seeing Gov't Mule at the Stone Pony :)

MakeItWitChu
07-20-2008, 11:26 PM
Thanks, i'll have to check it all out.:)

Cptbeefheart
07-20-2008, 11:36 PM
I was too busy seeing Gov't Mule at the Stone Pony :)

Lucky bastard. It was a good mini-set though. DMB is on now if you're interested. :D

BrainDamage
07-20-2008, 11:52 PM
^^I had it on for a few minutes but it slowed my computer down so much, so I turned it off. My friend will send me the audio when he gets it anyway. By the way, the Mule kicked ass on a beautiful Jersey night by the beach (outdoor show :cool: ).

As for their set, someone on the Crowesbase boards said the full show wasn't streamed. This is the full set:

MOVE IT ON DOWN THE LINE
GOODBYE DAUGHTERS OF THE REVOLUTION
GONE
JEALOUS AGAIN
OH JOSEPHINE
POOR ELIJAH - TRIBUTE TO JOHNSON (MEDLEY)
GODíS GOT IT
WISER TIME
WEE WHO SEE THE DEEP
THORN IN MY PRIDE
SOUL SINGING
REMEDY
WOUNDED BIRD
TWICE AS HARD

That's a typical festival setlist right there, ladies and gentlemen. Still not bad by any means though.

Cptbeefheart
07-21-2008, 12:27 AM
Yea, the full set definitely wasn't streamed. I saw from Oh Josephine on....

BrainDamage
07-21-2008, 06:32 PM
^^How did Wiser Time sound? More specifically, how was the keyboard solo?

Cptbeefheart
07-21-2008, 09:46 PM
Very simple, nothing spectacular. Fit with the groove of the jam though.

David_Bowie=GOD
07-21-2008, 10:54 PM
I just recently started listening to this band, all ive heard is hard 2 handle and remedy. Any recommendations on an album to start on?

BrainDamage
07-21-2008, 11:05 PM
^^I don't know how many times I've said this throughout this thread...Southern Harmony and/or Musical Companion or Amorica. Then get Three Snakes And One Charm.

Very simple, nothing spectacular. Fit with the groove of the jam though. I've said this since Adam MacDougall joined the band on keys: he doesn't "get" that song. Every single solo I've heard on Wiser Time that had him on keys was sub-par in my opinion. I'm not trying to compare him to Eddie Harsch, but come on, at least Ed's solos were interesting.

EDIT: By the way, there are a ton of '96-'97 shows that are being reseeded on dimeadozen right now. I'm grabbing them as they pop up and am slowly listening to them, they're fucking fantastic. Just browsing the setlists I'm seeing Spider In The Sugar Bowl Blues ( :eek: ), Peace Anyway, Paint An 8 jam, Thunderstorm 6:54 ( :eek: :eek: ), Name Like Music, a nice selection of now unplayed Three Snakes songs and more!

Cptbeefheart
07-21-2008, 11:21 PM
I think I'll try to snag some of those when I get back home. Can't torrent while I'm on this laptop :(

Thefallofman
07-21-2008, 11:35 PM
I just recently started listening to this band, all ive heard is hard 2 handle and remedy. Any recommendations on an album to start on?
Well if Remedy made you want to listen to more, then definitely get Southern Harmony and Musical Companion. Not because Remedy is on there, but because I think every other song on the album is better than Remedy. If My Morning Song was the only song on the album it'd still be worth the $13.

BrainDamage
07-21-2008, 11:41 PM
^^The studio My Morning Song is not complete without No Speak No Slave preceding it :)

David_Bowie=GOD
07-21-2008, 11:53 PM
Thanks for the advice, ill go buy the album when i get the money seeing the computer i download music on crashed recently :(

slidething31
07-22-2008, 09:53 AM
I wish the Black Crowes got more attention. I mean is there any other band today that eve comes close to them as far as just pure rock and roll?

They play rock like it was meant to be played.

BrainDamage
07-22-2008, 03:33 PM
^^You know, someone on the Crowesbase forums made a few comments in response to this (http://music.msn.com/music/photos/enough-already/?GT1=28102&photoidx=1) regarding the band's popularity, and I'm gonna have to agree with him/her here...

I would much prefer having them remembered in communities like this one as one of the greatest bands ever, and less talked about in corporate media rather than seeing them glorified or chastised in articles like this one by garbage media outlets

While I do think that they deserve the credit as the best pure rock and roll band in modern music, I like where they are right now. As long as they don't start doing arena, or ever worse, stadium tours I'm happy :)

slidething31
07-22-2008, 04:46 PM
It is a good point.

But, wow, that little write up was harsh. Hacky sacks and hippies? Thats not really the image I have of the Crowes.

BrainDamage
07-22-2008, 06:48 PM
^^Have you seen Chris Robinson recently? Or for that matter, heard him talk or seen him on stage? He's absolutely a hippie :p: I can sorta see where someone could get that idea given the band's current state (with Warpaint as a whole being more laid back then anything they've ever done), but they're far from a hippie band a la the Dead (even if the Nonfiction jams get a little...weird).

slidething31
07-22-2008, 07:09 PM
I know he's all long haired and everything...

But what you said about the Dead.. That's a hippie band. You think of them and you think of hippie fans.

I would not say the Crowes make hippie music. It's just good old southern rock. That's what I meant. I guess "image" was a bad word. Maybe I meant that's not their crowd...

I don't even know if what I wrote is understandable...

ledgnr89
07-24-2008, 03:33 AM
I just picked up their greatest hits album today and I completely dig it. They are a pretty fun band to listen too. They just sound like they are having a blast singing their songs. That's the way it should be.

TerpsRHCP
07-24-2008, 04:12 PM
This kid who went(graduated this year) to my school was the drummers son. He played in the liturgy band and hes a really good singer and guitarist. Nice guy.

slidething31
07-29-2008, 06:13 PM
I'm lookin to download some shows. What are some of the best shows that I could grab?

BrainDamage
07-29-2008, 07:30 PM
^^If you're into the whole torrent thing, check out some of the '96 shows on dimeadozen right now, they're fantastic. On a different note, among my personal favorite shows are those from the 2005 Hammerstein Ballroom run (March 22 through 30). The Crowes were absolutely smoking during those shows (even without Steve Gorman on drums), hell, the entire '05-'06 reunion with Marc Ford was amazing. I've grabbed just about every show I could from dimeadozen and etree, so if you find anything that has few/no seeders, I can help out if I have it.

Or you could join the UG Lossless Hub and download directly from me :)

By the way, I'm obsessed with the song Peace Anyway. Why that song was left off a Black Crowes album until Lost Crowes baffles me.

slidething31
07-29-2008, 08:23 PM
How do I join the UG Hub?

BrainDamage
07-29-2008, 08:29 PM
^^http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum/showthread.php?t=849822&page=1

The UG Classic Rock Hub
I originally intended on this to be super private, but since interest is fading, I'll open it up to the public (at my discretion). This is a DC++ hub I run privately from my computer. Registration is required, but all you need to do is PM me saying you're interested, and if I give you the ok to join, I'll ask for you to choose a username and password. You'll need a DC++ client (I recommend going to the http://www.echoeshub.com/ website and download their trading software package, which includes a client, a lossless player, and Trader's Little Helper- an all purpose lossless file tool), and once you have that, I'll send you the hub's address.

TwistedLogic
07-30-2008, 10:28 AM
I like them but find southern harmony to be disapppointment. It starts out slamming with sting me, but no speak no and the last two tracks are pretty meh. Kinga lost track of them after amorica.

BrainDamage
07-30-2008, 11:25 PM
^^Well that's the first time I've ever heard someone refer to My Morning Song as "meh", but whatever, to each his own :)

Grunge_Sucks
07-30-2008, 11:32 PM
I wish the Black Crowes got more attention. I mean is there any other band today that eve comes close to them as far as just pure rock and roll?

They play rock like it was meant to be played.

Pure Rock and Roll? You're kidding, right?

slidething31
07-31-2008, 12:45 AM
^ No I wasn't. What would make you think I was kidding?

Grunge_Sucks
07-31-2008, 07:52 PM
Never mind, it's just your opinion

BrainDamage
08-01-2008, 11:43 PM
http://www.iclips.net/gotv.php

Crowes live webcast from the Gathering of the Vibes festival in Bridgeport, CT.

ON STAGE: 11:03

Movin' On Down The Line
Goodbye Daughters of the Revolution
Jam-->Downtown Money Waster-->
Thorn In My Pride
Walk Believer Walk
Cold Rain and Snow
Locust Street
Poor Elijah/Tribute to Robert Johnson
Whoa Mule
Wiser Time
Oh Josephine
High Head Blues
Remedy
Hard to Handle
Wounded Bird

- Chris Robinson played electric guitar on Cold Rain and Snow.
- Luther Dickinson played mandolin on Locust Street.
- Chris Robinson acoustic guitar on Poor Elijah/Tribute to Robert Johnson.
- Rich Robinson played 12 string acoustic guitar and Steve Gorman came out front and played a djembe on Whoa Mule.

Thefallofman
08-06-2008, 12:23 AM
It's after midnight, so I'm officially seeing them today.

I wish Crowesbase would hurry and put up the set list from last nights show!!

BrainDamage
08-06-2008, 02:12 PM
^^I want a full, detailed report when you get back.

:)

Thefallofman
08-06-2008, 04:35 PM
And you'll get nothing less!

BrainDamage
08-06-2008, 11:40 PM
Well I'll be damned.

MADISON THEATER - COVINGTON, KY

GIRL FROM THE NORTH COUNTRY *
COLD BOY SMILE *
LOCUST STREET **
WRECK ON THE HIGHWAY **
POOR ELIJAH/ROBERT JOHNSON ***
WISER TIME ***
GOODBYE DAUGHTERS OF THE REVOLUTION ***
WHOA MULE ***
OH JOSEPHINE
HOTEL ILLNESS
COSMIC FRIEND
THORN IN MY PRIDE
MOVIN' ON DOWN THE LINE
REMEDY
- encore -
I DONíT KNOW WHY
WAITING GUILTY

- CR/RR ONLY *
- CR/RR/LD (on mandolin) **
- BAND acoustic ***

Cold Boy Smile?! Seriously? I never thought they'd bring that one back. That's a very nice looking set, possibly foreshadowing for the Town Hall acoustic shows in November? I like :liplick:

Thefallofman
08-07-2008, 12:29 AM
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/4773/dsc00652ua7.jpg

My set list. :)

Friggin' great show.



...and Grace Potter is incredibly hot.

Thefallofman
09-10-2008, 06:44 PM
No posts in a month? Jesus, that's not right!!


I just bought Lions. I know it's hit-or-miss... but it was $4 and it's the Crowes!

Cptbeefheart
09-10-2008, 06:50 PM
Yea, Lions was really disappointing. I'm really glad they returned to form with Warpaint.

Thefallofman
09-10-2008, 08:11 PM
I haven't listened to it yet, but it can't be too bad. Midnight From The Inside Out is good, and Cosmic Friend was really cool live.

...But I guess I should actually listen to it before I jump to conclusions here. :p:



Edit: Okay, listening complete. It certainly is hit-or-miss. Certainly some stuff I didn't expect (Chris rapping??), and plenty of just meh moments, but some big highlights. I think for this album, the softer tunes came out the best for the most part.

I think the second half outshines the first half: Lay It All On Me, Cypress Tree, Cosmic Friend and Soul Singing in particular. I wasn't let down by the album- but I'd gotten the scoop on it before, and wasn't expecting a Southern Harmony quality album.

BrainDamage
09-10-2008, 10:24 PM
In my mind, Lions looks like this...

Great:
Midnight From The Inside Out (this is really one of my favorite songs from any album of theirs. It just kicks all kinds of ass)
Greasy Grass River
Cypress Tree (I originally didn't like this song, but man did it grow on me)
Soul Singing (this one has gotten a little old, but it's still a great song)

Good:
Cosmic Friend (I originally didn't like this one either. It hasn't grown on me as much as Cypress Tree has, but it's still a good song, and I love the chorus)
Lay It All On Me

Average:
Young Man, Old Man
Miracle to Me
Come On (this one is borderline good)

Nah:
No Use Lying
Losing My Mind

What?:
Ozone Mama
Lickin'

It's clearly their weakest album, but worth the $4 for the four songs I think fit in the "great" category.

Cptbeefheart
09-10-2008, 10:27 PM
Midnight From the Inside Out and Soul Singing are really the only two songs that stand out for me. The rest of the album is just not very impressive.

BrainDamage
09-10-2008, 10:34 PM
^^Not even Greasy Grass River?

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/4773/dsc00652ua7.jpg

My set list. :)

Friggin' great show.



...and Grace Potter is incredibly hot. You know what Mike, I go to five shows and have the setlist given to the guy next to me at four of them. You go to one and get a setlist. Not cool.

:(

Cptbeefheart
09-11-2008, 08:43 AM
Greasy Grass isn't a bad song, not particularly a stand out for me though. Just above average.

slidething31
09-16-2008, 07:29 PM
What's up with the rest of their September shows being cancelled?

Good thing I wasn't able to see them in Santa Barbara anyway.