How do I play an Fsus9?


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BrianApocalypse
06-06-2007, 11:40 AM
Howdy guys.

I've been reading up on "Go your own way" by Fleetwood Mac, and according to the chords on here, it has an Fsus9 / F vamp.

I've looked on the lessons, but haven't been able to find how to play it, so I gots a couple o' questions.

Firstly, how do I play the Fsus9, based on the low E shape barre chord at the first fret?

Is it as simple as taking the barre off? (which doesn't sound quite right)

Secondly, how do I work out a Fsus9? I play up the scale to find the 9th, right?, but do I then raise the 9th or the 3rd?

Help would be greatly appreciated :)

psychodelia
06-06-2007, 11:54 AM
That's slightly confusing... hmm.

Well, one option is that you consider it to be an extension of Fsus(7), so you have root, fourth, fifth, minor seventh, and then you add on the ninth.

For which, I might play:

3
1
3
1
3
1

Might put a bit of a strain on your fingers, though; if your thumb can wrap around, you could omit the doubled fifth on the A string and play:

3
1
3
1
X
1

The other option is that the person decided to be confusing and put Fsus9 instead of Fsus2, in which case you might play:

1
1
0
3
3
1

Spamwise
06-06-2007, 03:04 PM
Wouldn't a Fsus9 just be a Fsus2 with a 7? (R 3 5 7 9(2) ) Why would the 4th be involved?

Erc
06-06-2007, 03:28 PM
Wouldn't a Fsus9 just be a Fsus2 with a 7? (R 3 5 7 9(2) ) Why would the 4th be involved?


Because it's a sus chord :p

I'm pretty sure that inless otherwise notated, sus implies the 4th not the 2nd.

Spamwise
06-06-2007, 03:31 PM
Because it's a sus chord :p

I'm pretty sure that inless otherwise notated, sus implies the 4th not the 2nd.
I believe the most common sus chord is the sus4, but there is a sus2 as well. Considering the 9th is the same as the 2nd, I'd think it would be a sus2 with an added 7th.

Tsunoyukami
06-06-2007, 03:41 PM
I believe the most common sus chord is the sus4, but there is a sus2 as well. Considering the 9th is the same as the 2nd, I'd think it would be a sus2 with an added 7th.

'sus' without either the 2nd or 4th is short-hand for _7sus4.

I agree that this is confusing. I would either see it as a sus2 chord with the 2 raised an octave, or as a 7sus4 with the second...so would that be a 9sus4? :confused:

Okay so if we assume it's just a sus2, we could play it as:


e|3 G (2nd/9th)
B|1 C (5th)
G|0 G (2nd)
D|3 F (root)
A|
E|


But if we went with it as 7sus4 with the 2nd/ninth


e|3 G (2nd/9th)
B|1 C (5th
G|3 Bb (4th)
D|1 Eb (dominant 7th)
A|3 C (5th)
E|1 F (root)


EDIT: psychodelia already did these two, so now it looks like I just copied him...

You could also try playing it at the 8th fret is you wanted to


e|
B|11 (2nd/9th)
G|8 (dominant 7th)
D|8 (4th)
A|8 (root)
E|

BrianApocalypse
06-06-2007, 04:55 PM
Cheers guys. twas most confusing, I must say :)

Peanut1614
06-06-2007, 05:20 PM
'sus' without either the 2nd or 4th is short-hand for _7sus4.

I agree that this is confusing. I would either see it as a sus2 chord with the 2 raised an octave, or as a 7sus4 with the second...so would that be a 9sus4? :confused:


Well _sus2 with a ninth is pointless really... so id say more sus4 with a ninth...

Spamwise
06-06-2007, 07:23 PM
Well _sus2 with a ninth is pointless really... so id say more sus4 with a ninth...
Well a 9 is a 2. I believe it's called the 9th instead of the 2nd because of the prescence of the 7th.

Peanut1614
06-06-2007, 07:25 PM
Well a 9 is a 2. I believe it's called the 9th instead of the 2nd because of the prescence of the 7th.

Its called the 9th instead of 2nd because of the presence of the 3rd i think not 7th. For example you can have Cadd9, yet there is no 7th in it.

hurlyz
06-07-2007, 12:15 AM
As in _sus9, do you mean _sus (aka _7sus4) with a 9th extension or _sus2 ??

Spamwise
06-09-2007, 04:56 PM
Its called the 9th instead of 2nd because of the presence of the 3rd i think not 7th. For example you can have Cadd9, yet there is no 7th in it.
I dunno, that's what my teacher told me. There's almost always a third, so I don't think it'd just be the third. I could be wrong though.

Peanut1614
06-09-2007, 06:04 PM
I dunno, that's what my teacher told me. There's almost always a third, so I don't think it'd just be the third. I could be wrong though.

Thats why it's always a 9th! Unless obviously, there is no third :p: and sometimes even if there isn't a third it can still be called a 9th :rolleyes:

Think add chords like I said, you wouldn't say Cadd2 or Cadd4 would you?

Kennocha
06-09-2007, 10:48 PM
^.... Cadd2 or Cadd4 would be like C, D, E, G (Cadd2) or C, E, F, G (Cadd4), but Cadd9 or Cadd11 would be .... in Cadd9 -- C, D(up an octave), E, G ... and Cadd11 would be C, E, F(up an octave) G.......

even though a 2 and a 9 / 4 and a 11, are the same notes, it depends on what octave they are in compared to the rest of the chord............

but sus chords mean you replace the 3rd with either a 2nd or 4th... so yea...

Spamwise
06-10-2007, 03:53 PM
Thats why it's always a 9th! Unless obviously, there is no third :p: and sometimes even if there isn't a third it can still be called a 9th :rolleyes:

Think add chords like I said, you wouldn't say Cadd2 or Cadd4 would you?
But wait, there isn't a 3rd in a Sus chord right? e.g. Sus2 would be 1 2 5.

6DgOfInTb
06-10-2007, 04:27 PM
I think it would just be Fsus2. If it were an F9sus, it would be called F9sus4 (or just Fsus).
This chord (Fsus2) would just be 1 2 5, not 1 2 4 5 b7.

Fsus2 would be played:

|-8--|
|-8--|
|-10-|
|-10-|
|-8--|
|-x--|
most conveniently,

Whereas F9sus would be played:
|-8-|
|-8-|
|-8-|
|-8-|
|-8-|
|-x-|
most conveniently.


Both of these chords can be used as the V chord in a song, since they both contain notes from F mixolydian. If it isnt the V chord in question, then I am almost positive this would be the Fsus2 chord rather than the F9sus chord.


Oops, you wanted in the low barre chord position:

|-1-|
|-1-|
|-0-|
|-3-|
|-3-|
|-x-|
I'd probably play it like that. It switches between the Fsus2 and the F (one other reason why it would most likely be the Fsus2 rather than F9sus), and you do that by replacing the open G with an A. The way psychodelia said earlier with the F on the low E-string works too, but that is much harder to play, and there is already another F in the chord.


i know, bad organization.
Hopefully i helped :)