Peavey Windsor Vs. Peavy XXX Vs. Peavey 6505


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punker_7970
06-13-2007, 06:25 PM
Alright guys. From the advice I've gotten from some of you since the last thread I posted, I'm taking into consideration getting one of the amps mentioned in the title [Peavey Windsor, Peavey XXX, Peavey 6505]. I was hoping I could get advice on which of the three would best be suited for playing 80's Metal [mainly Thrash]. If it can do modern Metal tones as well, great, but it doesn't have to necessarily. What matters most to me is the tone. I don't really mind the price, watts, weight, etc., just the tone. I appreciate all the advice. Thanks.

My [simple] setup:

Jackson DK2M [with Seymour Duncan JB's]
Line 6 Spider III combo amp

TJM2482
06-13-2007, 06:41 PM
All three are great amps. They rank low to high in terms of price: Windsor, XXX, 6150. I would recommend either the XXX or the 6150, they would be significantly heavier than the Windsor, but the Windsor is pretty good for some of the 80's metal stuff like Iron Maiden and AC/DC.

Try them out if possible, or listen to as many soundclips or watch as many youtube videos as possible. Either way, any of those 3 Peaveys will be better than your Line 6 :)

me_llamo_juan
06-13-2007, 06:43 PM
6505

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I recently played a Windsor and I was pretty impressed, especially considering the price.

punker_7970
06-13-2007, 06:43 PM
Thanks man. I'll go with the XXX or the 6505 and try them out when I go to Guitar Center.

Kid_Thorazine
06-13-2007, 07:10 PM
I think the Windsor is best for thrash, isince its a JCM 800 copy and the JCM 800 is pretty much the thrash metal amp. You might need an OD for it though.

DarthV
06-13-2007, 07:11 PM
The XXX with EL34 power tubes would probably be the most accurate for 80s thrash. Then again I've been fooling around with my 6505 and can do a pretty good of that sort of sound. Try them both out and go with what feels bet for you.

thetoastinator
06-13-2007, 08:13 PM
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Yeah... you shouldn't do that just because you dont agree with him...

Anyway, I would try out the XXX as I can get a pretty good tone out of it for Metallica/Megadeth stuff, because the 6505 is very dark sounding. I wasn't too impressed with the 2X12 version I tried at the store. It was alright, but I prefer my XXX tone's to it. And the Windsor would be pretty good and cheaper, but you would barely be making it gain-wise for the metal tones your thinking of IMO. An overdrive pedal would take care of that though. Also, its is single channel, so you can't switch from distortion to cleans mid-song.

MuffinMan
06-13-2007, 08:18 PM
Yeah... you shouldn't do that just because you dont agree with him... I think he did that because he spelled it 6150. Which I think he originally did to combine 6505/5150, because they're the same amp. I think it was just a misunderstanding.

Windsor is pretty great for thrash, if you don't need cleans.

thetoastinator
06-13-2007, 08:24 PM
I think he did that because he spelled it 6150. Which I think he originally did to combine 6505/5150, because they're the same amp. I think it was just a misunderstanding.

Windsor is pretty great for thrash, if you don't need cleans.
ohh my bad. I see people do that on other forums and they think their all cool for doing it. My apologies. :cheers:

TJM2482
06-13-2007, 08:27 PM
Yeah I just got the numbers wrong.

I have the XXX and im completely satisfied, huge range of tones, and if you find an EFX version it has some alright effects on it.

Tensorspencer
06-13-2007, 08:41 PM
I suggest the JSX, most versatile amp in the Peavey family, can nail thrash sound, can also get much heavier and has immaculate cleans. Only like 200$ more.

IsThereLoveInSp
06-13-2007, 09:50 PM
Yeah, I agree with the guy above me. Dont rule out the JSX, its great too and only a little bit more price wise than the others.

Now, that said, the 6505 is my favorite out of the bunch, but I dont play 80s metal or thrashy stuff, so Im not sure how Id like that kind of sound from it.

punker_7970
06-13-2007, 10:30 PM
The JSX is the Joe Satriani signature Peavey amp right? And it does Thrash too? Wow, never would have saw that! I'm looking on Musician's Friend for a stack version, but all I see is the head. Is there a version with the head and cabinet included?

punker_7970
06-13-2007, 10:32 PM
Nevermind. I found a halfstack version. $2,000 is a lot of money.

Would it be a better investment to buy a combo version or a stack version of either of the amps?

UnsignedRecords
06-13-2007, 10:58 PM
depends.

halfstack if you're gonna be doing gigs and shows and you wanna look badass.
combo if you're jamming with friends or on your own.

the weight factor is always an argument. some people don't mind lifting a head and cab separately, while others don't mind carrying the combo which is a usually a smaller combined version.

DarthV
06-14-2007, 09:53 AM
The 6505 or JSX combos are heavy beasts. 75-80lb for the 6505. If you're moving it between the house and a car then to the stage, I'd probably think about going with a head + 2x12 cab. If it's going to be stationary, then it's not too big of a deal.

Yngwi3
06-14-2007, 11:27 AM
I say 6505- i have the 6505+ and can get old thrashy tones on the crunch channel and use the lead channel for heavey, more modern stuff

new original
06-14-2007, 11:45 AM
the jsx is really nice. the advantages to the combo are the half power switch and and reverb.
You can always run it at full power with another cab for bigger shows if you need.

DarthV
06-14-2007, 11:52 AM
Half power is still going to be too loud if you're standing in front of the combo :)

new original
06-14-2007, 11:58 AM
Half power is still going to be too loud if you're standing in front of the combo :)
that's what many say but i just cranked up the master to around 7-8 with the preamp volumes at like 6-7 and it seemed like a good jamming volume but not overly loud

DarthV
06-14-2007, 04:51 PM
With master of the 2nd channel on my 6505 on 1 in a regular sized room, my ears start to get a little numb after 10-15 mins. At 3 it would drown out a drummer... you must have a large jamming spot and a mic'd up drummer to be able to let 'er rip at 7-8!

new original
06-14-2007, 05:31 PM
ehhhh, not really.
maybe i just like playing louder than other people :headbang:
:cheers:

blackinside79
06-14-2007, 08:20 PM
I have a windsor, and if you crank that thing with a touch of overdrive.....perfect thrash sounds. But you have NO cleans on this amp (it's only got 1 channel after all).

Great amp for the price.