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Fired_Scape
06-29-2007, 10:30 PM
Anybody ever tried these?

Are frets beyond the 24th practical at all?

dantiberian
06-29-2007, 10:34 PM
um i wouldn't imagine it would be easy to play as the frets would be pretty close together at the top end. I have heard about one of these on UG but i'm pretty sure it was a custom job. Have you seen one for sale?

zeroprezens
06-29-2007, 10:40 PM
i have never heard of one

OsirisProtocol
06-29-2007, 10:45 PM
Imagine... 3 full octaves.

darkarbiter7
06-29-2007, 10:49 PM
It's like the freddy mercury of guitars.

1010011010
06-29-2007, 10:50 PM
I was googling around and found this.

http://www.mind-gate.com/diverses/Dragon/total.jpg

I think it's damn cool.

Keef-is-king
06-29-2007, 10:50 PM
Its like I said in an earlier 36 fret thread, dogs will become highly aware of your playing. Its in someone's sig.

rcw110131
06-29-2007, 10:55 PM
I was googling around and found this.

http://www.mind-gate.com/diverses/Dragon/total.jpg

I think it's damn cool.

Lol, if I counted correctly, that's 33 frets.

Metalology
06-29-2007, 10:56 PM
Michael Angelo had one with 32 and did this really high trem picking bit. Sounded terrible.

Guitarislife125
06-29-2007, 10:57 PM
Its like I said in an earlier 36 fret thread, dogs will become highly aware of your playing. Its in someone's sig.


Not if you tune down :rolleyes:

neogamer_101
06-29-2007, 11:20 PM
Lol, if I counted correctly, that's 33 frets.

I counted 34. :D

DaddyTwoFoot
06-29-2007, 11:47 PM
Not if you tune down :rolleyes:

What an incredibly pointless post. Did you really need to go ahead and attempt to discredit that? I should hope not.

On-topic, I would imagine that it wouldn't be easy to play a guitar with more than 24 frets, but it might have its purposes here and there.

don't eat baby
06-29-2007, 11:49 PM
Washburn EC-36 (http://www.radcat.com/ec36.htm)

i've been looking for one for nearly a year and haven't managed to come across one yet.

bgmacaw
06-29-2007, 11:55 PM
I tried out a Danelectro like this that had 30 something frets about 5-6 years ago. It wasn't very playable and sounded somewhat nasal.

Invictious
06-30-2007, 01:29 AM
It sounds really really...annoying.
Try playing high E string, 36th fret, with gain, trem picking.
Then try the same on low E string

There is really is no point, unless you are playing some insane Bumblefoot tapping

DagMX
06-30-2007, 05:14 AM
Gary kramer..ugliest guitars in the world, but 36 frets and 7 strings...if you need more range than that...well your either god or your ****ing crazy

imnotastoner
06-30-2007, 06:06 AM
I was googling around and found this.

http://www.mind-gate.com/diverses/Dragon/total.jpg

I think it's damn cool.
thats also 7 strings. :rolleyes:

Punk_Ninja
06-30-2007, 06:17 AM
For Tapping I think is the main use of the 36ers, I wouldnt mind trying one or having one aside but not for main guitar.

Guitarislife125
07-01-2007, 02:03 AM
What an incredibly pointless post. Did you really need to go ahead and attempt to discredit that? I should hope not.

On-topic, I would imagine that it wouldn't be easy to play a guitar with more than 24 frets, but it might have its purposes here and there.

I don't see how it's pointless. So many people are ignorant towards 25+ guitars mainly because they only think 1 dimensionally. Instead of having it tuned to E you could tune it to F# and have 3 octaves from there.

ECistheBest
07-01-2007, 02:10 AM
I counted 34. :D


i counted 33... :rolleyes:

Chickenparts
07-01-2007, 03:03 AM
thats also 7 strings. :rolleyes:
The thread is about number of frets not number of strings.

Shredlet
07-01-2007, 03:11 AM
I was googling around and found this.

http://www.mind-gate.com/diverses/Dragon/total.jpg

I think it's damn cool.
Did anyone notice the E string isnt even on the fretboard?

Defaulted
07-01-2007, 03:15 AM
Did anyone notice the E string isnt even on the fretboard?
Yeah first thing I noticed. IMO I don't really know what I would need it for, other than the range.

Invictious
07-01-2007, 04:01 AM
Did anyone notice the E string isnt even on the fretboard?

It actually is.
Look from the bridge, you see it.

Dark_Merlin
07-01-2007, 04:24 AM
Wait, that guitar isnt a regular 6 string, its a 7 string.

Oh and he was talking about the low E string... its off of the fretboard

sheumack111
07-01-2007, 04:34 AM
Uli John Roths guitar has 33 frets i think... If my memory serves me correctly it translates to 6 octaves or something...... the three highest frets are doubled or something and there all scallopped.... Uli can play it very well too.... Listen to the Live at Castle Donnington Album for proof....

Invictious
07-01-2007, 04:48 AM
Wait, that guitar isnt a regular 6 string, its a 7 string.

Oh and he was talking about the low E string... its off of the fretboard

I believe it's the angle that the picture was taken at.
I think no one is retarded enough to put a string off the fretboard.
I've heard of fretless guitars, but fretboardless strings are just..meh

yes, it's the angle.

Shredlet
07-01-2007, 05:21 AM
It actually is.
Look from the bridge, you see it.
I mean B string, since its a freaking 7 string

krimm
07-01-2007, 05:30 AM
Maybe that string is only ment for chugging? ...

Shor-T Zero
07-01-2007, 02:58 PM
Dang it, I was hoping I was going to be able to identify the Roth one, lol. But yeah, there's a 7-string Uli Roth one that has 33 or 36 frets. You can see it on ebay, some said Malsteem has one. It looks like a tear/rain drop, and its divided in color like a Yin-Yang...

Edit:
Ok, just grabbed a picture of it, this is it. And it is only 32 frets. Reasonable...if you're into that really pinchy high stuff. It's called the Uli John Roth "Sky Guitar".

http://www.yngwie.org/gallery/images/skye.gif

DaddyTwoFoot
07-01-2007, 03:21 PM
The way that dragon guitar is constructed is like this: normal six strings on an extended fretboard. Then, the 7th string is on an unfretted piece of ebony (instead of rosewood like the rest of the neck), which makes it seem to blend in with the background.

Kurapica
07-01-2007, 04:27 PM
I don't see how it's pointless. So many people are ignorant towards 25+ guitars mainly because they only think 1 dimensionally. Instead of having it tuned to E you could tune it to F# and have 3 octaves from there.

You could get 3 octaves alot more practically though from having a 7 or 8 string and fewer extra frets.

It'd have it's use for tappers though, granted.

fixationdarknes
07-01-2007, 05:56 PM
I counted 34. :D

Then learn to count again. 33.

AngusX
07-01-2007, 06:02 PM
Ok, here's the thing about frets over 24, I don't perceive them being extremely useful for anything other than tapping. Even tapping would seem to present difficulties simply because the frets are in such close proximity to one another. I know that frets 20-24 are a bit of a pain in the butt to play because my fingers are not very small, I can only imagine the difficulty of playing frets 24-33/34/whatever, even tapping seems like it could get to be a pain in the butt. Of course, I've never played anything with more than 24 frets, and I'm a big fan of good ol' standard tuning...

thatguy147
07-01-2007, 06:49 PM
having the capability of 3 octaves on one string... one question. Why?

Asomodai
07-01-2007, 06:56 PM
I actually own a Washburn EC-36, And its for sale also. I will only send to the UK though.

Its Neck thru 100% mint condition. One of only 500 ever made. With OHSC and case candy. I have put a Seymour Duncan Livewire metal and the bridge, and i still have the original pickup and warranty card.

http://www.geocities.com/theadvocategenerals/Ec36.JPG

http://www.geocities.com/theadvocategenerals/Washonstand1.JPG

http://www.geocities.com/theadvocategenerals/washsd.jpg

I am suprised no one mentioned me as of yet, I am probably the only person on these boards ever to have owned a 36 fretter. (Search for my name etc, I am pretty well known on these boards in the past (Ex Smod etc))

PM me if your interested and have money. (UK only please)

I am selling because i am now a full time bassist :)

tubab0y
07-01-2007, 07:11 PM
someone mentioned that they knew someone had one, just not who.

and i just didn't get to this thread in time. ;)

TimmyPage06
07-01-2007, 11:54 PM
Just imagine.. if you tuned down an octave you would have a 3 octave guitar starting in the bass range, with a usable upper end...

I still want an 8 string, and tune the bottom two to E and A so I can comp my own basslines, Charlie Hunter style.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWyiezH8KGo

Invictious
07-02-2007, 04:04 AM
Just imagine.. if you tuned down an octave you would have a 3 octave guitar starting in the bass range, with a usable upper end...

I still want an 8 string, and tune the bottom two to E and A so I can comp my own basslines, Charlie Hunter style.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWyiezH8KGo

Meshuggah style, woooo.

That is one hell of a flashy 36 fret guitar btw, how much does it cost? damn..
They look fun to play.

Reincaster
07-02-2007, 04:13 AM
I've seen 9 string 96 fret guitars that you use tootchpicks to play or something. I think conklin had them.

Asomodai
07-02-2007, 07:18 AM
Meshuggah style, woooo.

That is one hell of a flashy 36 fret guitar btw, how much does it cost? damn..
They look fun to play.

If you mean mine, They used to sell for over a grand in the UK, I am asking 700 myself.