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shadowsoldier08
09-20-2007, 09:14 PM
ok as most of you may relate to, my tastes in music are changing at an extremely rapid pace. last year i was dying to hear **** like atreyu/killswitch/trivium, all that metalcore stuff, but over the months i have developed a more "aggressive" sense for music. right now i like **** like black dahlia murder(pre-nocturnal), all shall perish, acacia strain, red chord...**** like that. anywho, im looking for more stuff to listen to and i often see me "forcign" myself to try to listen to some grindcore. if it is any help, could you prefer some good g-core bands that dont absolutely suck? i dont want any of that crazy nonstop high noted solo ****, but more of the "heavier" side to grindcore, almost red chord-esque, but not.

†death_boy†
09-20-2007, 09:17 PM
Pig Destroyer

pucci6d6
09-20-2007, 09:18 PM
edit:nvm my post, the guy above me is pretty smart i was about to edit and say them, oh well
go back to the metalcore anyway

mohawkkidJohn
09-20-2007, 09:19 PM
Job for a cowboy, necrophaigist, eradication, i killed the prom queen(to some dipute to other ugers)

janecoffin27
09-20-2007, 09:22 PM
Death/grind is good. Origin, Cephalic Carnage, Dripping, and especially Lykathea Aflame. Look up "Land Where Sympathy Is Air." It's on their Myspace.

I don't know if this is exactly what you wanted but it's good grind-influenced stuff.

Edit: God, how could I forget Bolt Thrower. Kudos, guy below me. "Realm of Chaos" is a classic.

MorbidVirus
09-20-2007, 09:22 PM
You should try moving away from all the "core"and go straight into Death Metal if you want real aggressive brutality.
Grindcore is mostly just... noise ...but it has some bands that stand out.

Napalm Death
Early Carcass
Bolt Thrower
Repulsion
Terrorizer





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oh and stay away from that "scene-grind" Job for a cowboy stuff, that **** is straight out gay.

devourthekitten
09-20-2007, 09:23 PM
Circle Of Dead Children, Napalm Death, Cattle Decapitation, Extreme Noise Terror...

STABxYOU
09-25-2007, 12:40 PM
oh and stay away from that "scene-grind" Job for a cowboy stuff, that **** is straight out gay.

JfaC are a lame metal band and have nothing to do with grindcore.

The the OP, if you want some deathcore (which seems to be what you're asking about) there's a rec thread. :)

If you want some grindcore I'd suggest Pig Destroyer, Agoraphobic Nosebleed, Fuck... I'm Dead, Insect Warfare and Brujeria.

likeomgtehtuck!
09-25-2007, 02:42 PM
Pig Destroyer, Slaughterbox, ****... I'm Dead and Circle of Dead Children

guitarwannabe16
09-25-2007, 02:46 PM
Insect Warfare

California Love

Nasum

Napalm Death

Pig Destroyer

Extreme Noise Terror

Berzerker

Brutal Truth

Discordance Axis

Old school Leng Tch'e

Magrudergrind

Phobia?

AVOID:

The Locust
See You Next Tuesday

ShellBlast
09-25-2007, 03:26 PM
Why should he avoid The Locust? They will remain one of the best noise bands in history. Yea I know they are famous now but I don't care. I love The Locust and always will. You shouldn't be discouraged because all these little kids listen to them to be extreme.

SadistNation
09-25-2007, 03:33 PM
dude, i kinda like the Locust, ha, and the OLD SYNT, but that's just me. But none of the stuff that Mohawk posted is Grind, no offense Mow. But Guitarwannabe pretty much has it

Insect Warfare
Carcass
Circle of Dead Children
Pig Destroyer
Nasum
Berzerker
Napalm Death
Cattle Decapitation

TRY
Hewhocorrupts
Massacre of the Umbilical Chord
Frozen Water Burial (kind of grind-ish)

and if you ever get into the crazy Noise stuff

Robinson
Pope Benedict
Graf Orlock
Destroyer Destroyer
25 Dollar Massacre
East West Blast Test

PiNk_ThE_pUnK
09-25-2007, 03:36 PM
Listen to SadistNation and guitarwannabe16. The only lists that actually have proper, good grind bands on.

ShellBlast
09-25-2007, 03:37 PM
I actually don't think the OP is looking for grindcore bands. It seems he was misleaded on what grindcore actually is. I think he is just looking for deathcore bands.

XMeatHookMartyX
09-25-2007, 04:26 PM
You would probably only like nu-grind. Even thought Sadist and Guitarwannabe did post some solid ****ing bands.

ShellBlast
09-25-2007, 04:31 PM
If you want a good grindcore band check out Nashgul. They are one of the best modern grindcore bands out there. They are like Terrorizer, Insect Warfare and Leng Tch'e.

guitarwannabe16
09-25-2007, 10:22 PM
I dont hate the locust cause of their fans, I hate them cause of their god damn irritating music. Hating a band for their fans is the worst reason ever.

Also hit up Ed Gein's "It's a Shame". That was pretty solid.

Paracetamol
09-25-2007, 10:32 PM
Job for a cowboy, necrophaigist, eradication, i killed the prom queen(to some dipute to other ugers)
bahahahahahahhahahahahaha I killed the prom queen grindcore? mate thats just ****ed!

mr.joopy987
09-25-2007, 10:36 PM
Cattle Decapitations earlier stuff has some grind qualities. Their new stuff is tight too, but it is Death Metal.

ShellBlast
09-25-2007, 11:49 PM
Why would you tell him to avoid the band then? Not everyone likes the same stuff.

waldorphPRS41
09-25-2007, 11:57 PM
I like SYNT's full length, I hated the EP's. But my opinion doesn't really count in this area because I dislike 90% of grind music.

Paris_In_Flames
09-26-2007, 12:16 AM
I dont hate the locust cause of their fans, I hate them cause of their god damn irritating music. Hating a band for their fans is the worst reason ever.

Also hit up Ed Gein's "It's a Shame". That was pretty solid.

I hate the locust so much.
Seriously. They suck at life...and I'm not talking about the board game.

waldorphPRS41
09-26-2007, 12:26 AM
One of my friends used to go on and on about The Locust so I thought I'd give them another try. They still sucked.

ShellBlast
09-26-2007, 12:26 AM
You guys are crazy. Why do you hate them so much?

guitarwannabe16
09-26-2007, 01:01 AM
Because there are so many better bands than the Locust to listen too, Cbf wasting my time on them.

I hate the locust so much.
Seriously. They suck at life...and I'm not talking about the board game.
Very nice. Love the Ed Gein shout out.

STABxYOU
09-26-2007, 01:03 AM
The Locust are great, but not grindcore.

uncballer11
09-26-2007, 10:18 AM
how about waking the cadaver?

Disco Vietnam
09-26-2007, 10:26 AM
how about waking the cadaver?
NO.

Rufiothebandito
09-26-2007, 10:39 AM
agreed on the locust sucking, noisecore is probably the worst idea for a genre ever.

Also check out Maggot Stuffed Cun7(<--that should be a T)for some ridonculous grindcore

DressingCold
09-26-2007, 01:53 PM
earlier locust was awesome and they're still doing some interesting things.

check out:
Swarrrm
Rotten Sound
Axiom
Assuck
Catheter
My Minds Mine
PLF
Monster X
Rupture
Dissension
Frightmare
Asterisk
Cyness
Excruciating Terror
Agathocles
Skarp
Carpet Violence
Unholy Grave
Looking For An Answer

guitarwannabe16
09-26-2007, 02:02 PM
how about waking the cadaver?

I didnt put them on the avoid list because I decided to give common sense another shot. Didnt work out so well

earlier locust was awesome and they're still doing some interesting things.

check out:
Swarrrm
Rotten Sound
Axiom
Assuck
Catheter
My Minds Mine
PLF
Monster X
Rupture
Dissension
Frightmare
Asterisk
Cyness
Excruciating Terror
Agathocles
Skarp
Carpet Violence
Unholy Grave
Looking For An Answer
Once again, Im pwned by Dressing Cold

Disco Vietnam
09-26-2007, 02:25 PM
earlier locust was awesome and they're still doing some interesting things.

check out:
Swarrrm
Rotten Sound
Axiom
Assuck
Catheter
My Minds Mine
PLF
Monster X
Rupture
Dissension
Frightmare
Asterisk
Cyness
Excruciating Terror
Agathocles
Skarp
Carpet Violence
Unholy Grave
Looking For An Answer
Swarrrm is the most chaotic band on the planet.

By the way Dressing, do you have any Unholy Grave you could send?

likeomgtehtuck!
09-26-2007, 02:36 PM
how about waking the cadaver?


LOL :haha

guitarwannabe16
09-26-2007, 02:43 PM
Swarrrm is the most chaotic band on the planet.


Mind sending me some of their stuff, or a link to their myspace? Tried looking them up, got a garbage deathcore band.

Disco Vietnam
09-26-2007, 02:57 PM
Mind sending me some of their stuff, or a link to their myspace? Tried looking them up, got a garbage deathcore band.
Sure thing man, I'll dig up two of their albums.

ShellBlast
09-26-2007, 03:10 PM
I like some of their stuff but sometimes the vocals annoy the hell out of me when he does that psychedelic stuff. I also hate how crappy some of their cds are recording.

DressingCold
09-26-2007, 04:47 PM
Swarrrm is the most chaotic band on the planet.

By the way Dressing, do you have any Unholy Grave you could send?

pm'd you an album.

SadistNation
09-26-2007, 04:55 PM
DressingCold....you are a god of knowledge, and may you also send me whatever Disco wanted, i'd probably like it. ha

guitarwannabe16
09-26-2007, 05:59 PM
Sure thing man, I'll dig up two of their albums.
Way to hook a bro up. Thanks dude.

StuartR
09-26-2007, 08:06 PM
Why should he avoid The Locust? They will remain one of the best noise bands in history. Yea I know they are famous now but I don't care. I love The Locust and always will. You shouldn't be discouraged because all these little kids listen to them to be extreme.


Not noise.

Stupified
09-26-2007, 08:08 PM
Only one I have ever liked is Napalm Death, and even still not all their songs =T

Heavy stuff g-core -.-

technicolour
09-26-2007, 09:49 PM
Why Is There A "meh" In Front Of Grindcore?!

Disco Vietnam
09-26-2007, 11:32 PM
pm'd you an album.
Thanks so much dude, you are a life saver!

I-am-hollywood
09-26-2007, 11:53 PM
Dr. Acula welll their sorta are but their mostly just awesome.

STABxYOU
09-27-2007, 12:45 AM
^ No, they're crap. Scenegrind is little more then a really unfunny joke.

DiamondOfBlood
09-27-2007, 09:37 AM
Friggin cryptopsy..albums with mike disalvo..his voice was crit'd for its hardcore-ish sound..that might give something red chord-"ish"...but any album by them is insane grind...

DiamondOfBlood
09-27-2007, 09:47 AM
^ No, they're crap. Scenegrind is little more then a really unfunny joke.

i get that vibe from them..especially when they pig squeel..but i like em..shocker on shock street is great

Paracetamol
09-27-2007, 09:49 AM
^ No, they're crap. Scenegrind is little more then a really unfunny joke.
I like Dr.Acula because they're a joke...and I think it's funny.

StuartR
09-27-2007, 11:52 AM
Friggin cryptopsy..albums with mike disalvo..his voice was crit'd for its hardcore-ish sound..that might give something red chord-"ish"...but any album by them is insane grind...

No it's not, it's death metal!

FFS!

DiamondOfBlood
09-27-2007, 01:24 PM
No it's not, it's death metal!

FFS!
..anyway without havng a HUGE genre battle that will waste approx. 30 posts..listen to them anyway..specifically whisper supremacy..they have a jazz influence much like the red chord..and disalvos vocals should appeal to you..

technicolour
09-27-2007, 03:49 PM
..anyway without havng a HUGE genre battle that will waste approx. 30 posts..listen to them anyway..specifically whisper supremacy..they have a jazz influence much like the red chord..and disalvos vocals should appeal to you..

Everyone knows that None so vile and Once was not are their best albums, because Lord Worm slays.

:rolleyes:

although there is truth to that.

Early Gorerotted is grindy, according to metal archives, I can hear it.

DiamondOfBlood
09-27-2007, 08:53 PM
Everyone knows that None so vile and Once was not are their best albums, because Lord Worm slays.

:rolleyes:

although there is truth to that.

Early Gorerotted is grindy, according to metal archives, I can hear it.

indeed sir...indeed

STABxYOU
09-28-2007, 01:00 AM
..anyway without havng a HUGE genre battle that will waste approx. 30 posts..listen to them anyway..specifically whisper supremacy..they have a jazz influence much like the red chord..and disalvos vocals should appeal to you..

Deathcore and death metal have nothing to do with grindcore. If you want to talk about Cryptopsy there's an entire forum dedicated to metal. -.-

http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum/showthread.php?t=377848

OMFG it's a thread to talk about Cryptopsy in! Now, quit spamming the grindcore thread with metal bands.

DiamondOfBlood
09-28-2007, 09:15 AM
Deathcore and death metal have nothing to do with grindcore. If you want to talk about Cryptopsy there's an entire forum dedicated to metal. -.-

http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum/showthread.php?t=377848

OMFG it's a thread to talk about Cryptopsy in! Now, quit spamming the grindcore thread with metal bands.

*sigh* EXACTLY what im talking about..

STABxYOU
09-28-2007, 11:46 AM
Hey, I like Tool, so let's talk about Tool in the grindcore thread too. Yay for not being snobs.

mr freezy
09-28-2007, 11:47 AM
Buy "scum" buy Napalm Death, its the best grind album IMO

STABxYOU
09-28-2007, 12:05 PM
It's very good, but it seems you've never heard Pig Destroyer - 38 Counts Of Battery.

Disco Vietnam
09-28-2007, 12:13 PM
Or Insect Warfare - World Extermination.

Spiritual_Cramp
09-28-2007, 12:47 PM
Insect Warfare - World Extermination.

Should be PM'd to me.

:]

DiamondOfBlood
09-28-2007, 01:07 PM
Hey, I like Tool, so let's talk about Tool in the grindcore thread too. Yay for not being snobs.

do you feel like your tough **** because you can mouth off on the internet? seriously get over it dude...

ShellBlast
09-28-2007, 01:36 PM
It's very good, but it seems you've never heard Pig Destroyer - 38 Counts Of Battery.

Gah! Dude come on best grindcore album ever is World Downfall by Terrorizer.

radio_schizo
09-28-2007, 02:48 PM
Discordance Axis are the best grind band full stop. Grindcore is a genre that is very hit or miss, mainly miss, but Discordance Axis just stand out above the rest for me. Amazing musicianship and songs & cool concepts and album artwork.

guitarwannabe16
09-28-2007, 05:20 PM
Discordance Axis are the best grind band full stop. Grindcore is a genre that is very hit or miss, mainly miss

Ima kick you in the balls.

Disco Vietnam
09-28-2007, 05:26 PM
Should be PM'd to me.

:]
Check your PM's dude.

aggiefan33
09-28-2007, 05:58 PM
Check your PM's dude.
Ehem :haha

Disco Vietnam
09-28-2007, 06:48 PM
Ehem :haha
Yours has just been sent!

larry jones
09-28-2007, 06:50 PM
Most people in this thread have no idea what real grindcore is...

Start with the big names:

Pig Destroyer
Cattle Decapitation (some stuff, more so death metal)
**** and Ball Torture
Agoraphobic Nosebleed

And some other awesome bands:

Waking the Cadaver
Libido Airbag
Prostitute Disfigurement
Corpsefvcking Art
Lethal Injection
GUT

guitarwannabe16
09-28-2007, 08:17 PM
Most people in this thread have no idea what real grindcore is...

Start with the big names:

Pig Destroyer
Cattle Decapitation (some stuff, more so death metal)
**** and Ball Torture
Agoraphobic Nosebleed

And some other awesome bands:

Waking the Cadaver
Libido Airbag
Prostitute Disfigurement
Corpsefvcking Art
Lethal Injection
GUT
And you do??

mr.joopy987
09-28-2007, 09:18 PM
And you do??
Agoraphobic Nosebleed is grind dude.
But Waking THe Cadaver, I don't know where the **** that came from.

STABxYOU
09-29-2007, 01:26 AM
Most people in this thread have no idea what real grindcore is...

Waking the Cadaver

Phail. :no:

pistols
09-29-2007, 02:11 AM
haemorrhage is an awesome goregrind band.

also siege pretty much started grind, but due to their only releasing 1 ep and not being quite as extreme as napalm death they are often overlooked.
but they were napalm death's biggest inspiration.

technicolour
09-29-2007, 10:39 AM
Magrudergrind

They got in a fight with anal cunt

STABxYOU
09-29-2007, 02:27 PM
Graf Orlock anyone?

aggiefan33
09-29-2007, 02:45 PM
Graf Orlock are ace. Cinemagrind at it's best

Winter Solstice
09-29-2007, 03:08 PM
Aborted
Agoraphobic Nosebleed
Carcass
**** And Ball Torture
Exhumed
Extreme Noise Terror
Kumbunzzbootiebitchbunch
Last Days Of Humanity
Leng T'che
Napalm Death
Nasum
Phobia
Terrorizer

if not mentioned yet.

guitarwannabe16
09-29-2007, 06:56 PM
Agoraphobic Nosebleed is grind dude.
But Waking THe Cadaver, I don't know where the **** that came from.
I know they are but its ****ty grind imo

Paris_In_Flames
09-29-2007, 07:02 PM
I know they are but its ****ty grind imo
Are you referring to Agoraphobic or Waking the Cadaver?

SilentSpectacle
09-29-2007, 07:11 PM
This whole thread was absolutely disastrous until this page.

guitarwannabe16
09-29-2007, 07:43 PM
Are you referring to Agoraphobic or Waking the Cadaver?

AG

Paris_In_Flames
09-29-2007, 08:25 PM
I disagree. I don't like grind at all, but AG is one of the better bands.

DanRev
09-29-2007, 08:35 PM
AG is ****e ****ing bollocks.


if by AG you mean Agoraphobic Nosebleed

guitarwannabe16
09-29-2007, 09:11 PM
I do indeed

Mikey1989
09-29-2007, 09:28 PM
Just listen to All Shall Perish, mixture of screaming with the odd gutteral.

Great guitar/drums too.

guitarwannabe16
09-29-2007, 09:48 PM
Deathcore bro, one of the decent ones, but not grind.

'StoleN'
09-29-2007, 11:31 PM
Job for a cowboy, necrophaigist, eradication, i killed the prom queen(to some dipute to other ugers)



lmao, not grindcore, sorry try again.

larry jones
09-30-2007, 02:01 AM
Okay, I guess WTC aren't grind. But, they do rule.

And people who obsess over genres should just cut off their penises right now and eat them.

Disco Vietnam
09-30-2007, 02:21 AM
Okay, I guess WTC aren't grind. But, they do rule.

And people who obsess over genres should just cut off their penises right now and eat them.
You just lost what little credibility you have.

guitarwannabe16
09-30-2007, 03:09 AM
And people who like WTC should just cut off their penises right now and eat them.
Fixed

STABxYOU
09-30-2007, 03:13 AM
^ You owe me a new keyboard, I just laughed Jolt everywhere.

technicolour
09-30-2007, 11:49 AM
^ You owe me a new keyboard, I just laughed Jolt everywhere.

Man the truth can be so funny :)

devourthekitten
09-30-2007, 10:02 PM
Cattle Decapitation (some stuff, more so death metal)

Actually, it's just the more recent stuff that's more deathy.

Human Jerky is the best: "PARASITIC INFESTATION (EXTRACTED PUS, MISTAKEN FOR YOGURT AND GARGLED)"


So extreme...

likeomgtehtuck!
10-01-2007, 02:43 PM
^^^^ :haha :haha :haha

devourthekitten
10-01-2007, 06:03 PM
^^^^ :haha :haha :haha
How about "Colon-Blo"?


hahahahahahahahahahahahahaaaa......

nayleD1337
10-01-2007, 06:06 PM
Fixed


you get 500 cool points. I laughed my ass off.

aperfectshot176
10-04-2007, 10:23 PM
green day, bliknk 182, fall out boy. those ****ing bands suck. but there better than your pubesent metal bull Shi t you ppl here call music. FU CK grindcore and FU CK death metal. play real metal like iron maiden or black sabbeth and stop making SH itty music.

mr.joopy987
10-04-2007, 10:29 PM
green day, bliknk 182, fall out boy. those ****ing bands suck. but there better than your pubesent metal bull Shi t you ppl here call music. FU CK grindcore and FU CK death metal. play real metal like iron maiden or black sabbeth and stop making SH itty music.
Seriously, shut the **** up

aperfectshot176
10-04-2007, 10:33 PM
Seriously, shut the **** up
or what are you gonna threatin me over the computor?

mr.joopy987
10-04-2007, 10:35 PM
or what are you gonna threatin me over the computor?
No.
I am going to ignore you, because you are clearly incredibly ignorant.

aperfectshot176
10-04-2007, 10:39 PM
No.
I am going to ignore you, because you are clearly incredibly ignorant.
yes, yes i am. thanx for noticing, that still doesnt change the fact that this type of music discussed in this forum is a disgrace to the word "music" and to the instruments your "artists" play it on

MustangMan311
10-04-2007, 10:43 PM
or what are you gonna threatin me over the computor?
r u lik typin wrung on my intenet

mr.joopy987
10-04-2007, 10:43 PM
yes, yes i am. thanx for noticing, that still doesnt change the fact that this type of music discussed in this forum is a disgrace to the word "music" and to the instruments your "artists" play it on
Hmm. Let's think about this one.
Music is only a word, and it means, pretty much, the arrangement of tones. I don't understand how you can disgrace that, unless you aren't playing tones, in which case you would not be able to be heard.
As for the instruments, it is the kids who try and start Sabbath cover bands before they know how to play a note, and then claim to be infinitesimally better than "hardcore emo fag music" that truly disgrace the instruments their mommies bought them.

aperfectshot176
10-04-2007, 10:45 PM
u got me on the music, but your second patt is totally irrelevent on my part, but i guess your too hardcore to care

mr.joopy987
10-04-2007, 10:46 PM
u got me on the music, but your second post is totally irrelevent on my part, but i guess your too hardcore to care
Absolutely. I'm too busy playing disgraceful music on disgraced instruments.

aperfectshot176
10-04-2007, 10:49 PM
i figured you were too busy playing noise, not music ,noise theres a better word for it. im curious on how you ppl can justify your **** as a song or as good music. with pointlessly dropped tuned guitars and pointless melodyless screaming and pig **** on top of it how is that a song?

MustangMan311
10-04-2007, 11:16 PM
i figured you were too busy playing noise, not music ,noise theres a better word for it. im curious on how you ppl can justify your **** as a song or as good music. with pointlessly dropped tuned guitars and pointless melodyless screaming and pig **** on top of it how is that a song?
Pointlessly drop-tuned guitars? Heavier sound, dumbass.
Pointless melody-less screaming? I'm sure singing would sound fantastic over top of it.
Pig ****? Not grindcore.

devourthekitten
10-04-2007, 11:25 PM
Pointlessly drop-tuned guitars? Heavier sound, dumbass.
Pointless melody-less screaming? I'm sure singing would sound fantastic over top of it.
Pig ****? Not grindcore.
Pig squeals are grindcore...and very awesome.

...and, yeah, that guy who's like "Misfits Misfits they're the coolest shirt ever!!!" should die.


















...Misfits pwn though...

MustangMan311
10-04-2007, 11:29 PM
Pig squeals are grindcore...and very awesome.

...and, yeah, that guy who's like "Misfits Misfits they're the coolest shirt ever!!!" should die.


















...Misfits pwn though...
Leave.

guitarwannabe16
10-04-2007, 11:57 PM
Pig squeals are grindcore...and very awesome.

Pig sqeals are NOT GRINDCORE FOLKS. Unless you think grindcore is ****ty nu-jack bull like WTC or Impending Doom.


i figured you were too busy playing noise, not music ,noise theres a better word for it. im curious on how you ppl can justify your **** as a song or as good music. with pointlessly dropped tuned guitars and pointless melodyless screaming and pig **** on top of it how is that a song?
Its good because we like it. I like how you come into the HARDCORE section and start bull****ting about DEATH METAL. If you've even heard good Technical Deathmetal, such as the Faceless, you'll see that they're extremely good musicians, and that their material is so much harder to play than Black Sabbath or Iron Maiden.

And true grindcore, the kind we like to endorse around here, is just a faster, meaner, more vicious form of punk mixed in with hardcore elements, something you seem to like, seeing as how you have Misfits avatar. So please know something about the music you're ragging on next time you decide to come in out of nowhere and try to convince devoted fans that their music sucks.

mortiis999
10-05-2007, 07:48 AM
Pig sqeals are NOT GRINDCORE FOLKS. Unless you think grindcore is ****ty nu-jack bull like WTC or Impending Doom.
.

Pig squeals originated in brutal death and death/grind. And those bands are death metal. Just bad death metal.

guitarwannabe16
10-05-2007, 04:14 PM
Pig squeals originated in brutal death and death/grind. And those bands are death metal. Just bad death metal.
This is my point. But people take these bands and interpret them as grind simply because they have pig squeals or undiscernable guitar parts. Simply isnt what grind is.

aperfectshot176
10-06-2007, 04:22 PM
Pig sqeals are NOT GRINDCORE FOLKS. Unless you think grindcore is ****ty nu-jack bull like WTC or Impending Doom.



Its good because we like it. I like how you come into the HARDCORE section and start bull****ting about DEATH METAL. If you've even heard good Technical Deathmetal, such as the Faceless, you'll see that they're extremely good musicians, and that their material is so much harder to play than Black Sabbath or Iron Maiden.

And true grindcore, the kind we like to endorse around here, is just a faster, meaner, more vicious form of punk mixed in with hardcore elements, something you seem to like, seeing as how you have Misfits avatar. So please know something about the music you're ragging on next time you decide to come in out of nowhere and try to convince devoted fans that their music sucks.

Yeah i did put those two genres together, because 3/4 of this current grindcore/ hardcore **** sounds identical to it. if hardcore and that **** is "faster, meaner, more vicious" form of punk rock, how does job for a cowboy, black my heart, dr.aculla sound anything like punk? and the 80's hardcore, true hardcore, like black flag and minor threat were true hardcore. this 2000's hardcore with the exception of a few boston bands are a ****ing disgrace and a joke. it isnt hardcore, its ****ing bull****.

mr.joopy987
10-06-2007, 04:43 PM
Yeah i did put those two genres together, because 3/4 of this current grindcore/ hardcore **** sounds identical to it. if hardcore and that **** is "faster, meaner, more vicious" form of punk rock, how does job for a cowboy, black my heart, dr.aculla sound anything like punk? and the 80's hardcore, true hardcore, like black flag and minor threat were true hardcore. this 2000's hardcore with the exception of a few boston bands are a ****ing disgrace and a joke. it isnt hardcore, its ****ing bull****.
Most of us think that too. When we say hardcore, we don't mean metalcore, we are talking about hardcore punk.
And there are band around today that still play faster, angrier, heavier, punk rock and call it hardcore.

zayG
10-06-2007, 06:14 PM
Yeah i did put those two genres together, because 3/4 of this current grindcore/ hardcore **** sounds identical to it. if hardcore and that **** is "faster, meaner, more vicious" form of punk rock, how does job for a cowboy, black my heart, dr.aculla sound anything like punk? and the 80's hardcore, true hardcore, like black flag and minor threat were true hardcore. this 2000's hardcore with the exception of a few boston bands are a ****ing disgrace and a joke. it isnt hardcore, its ****ing bull****.

I personally find it funny how you put JFAC, BMH, and Dr. Acula in one sentence.

One is ****ty deathcore, one is FSU the ban- err, Boston Hardcore, and the latter is scene grind.

werty22
10-06-2007, 06:21 PM
Yeah i did put those two genres together, because 3/4 of this current grindcore/ hardcore **** sounds identical to it. if hardcore and that **** is "faster, meaner, more vicious" form of punk rock, how does job for a cowboy, black my heart, dr.aculla sound anything like punk? and the 80's hardcore, true hardcore, like black flag and minor threat were true hardcore. this 2000's hardcore with the exception of a few boston bands are a ****ing disgrace and a joke. it isnt hardcore, its ****ing bull****.

I agree that modern "hardcore" is very different from hardcore punk, but you shouldn't come into this forum and talk trash about the entire genre. By the way, I'm not a regular in this forum, nor am I a fan of modern hardcore. I just clicked on this thread on the front page.

STABxYOU
10-06-2007, 06:59 PM
Shh Joopy, don't disturb him while he's got his head in his arse.

DiamondOfBlood
10-07-2007, 06:06 PM
my question is why people seem to hate waking the cadaver so much..

technicolour
10-07-2007, 06:11 PM
my question is why people seem to hate waking the cadaver so much..

Cause they're trend hoppers with pig squeels only for vocals, and they're music is pretty boring/uninspired.

And kids think they're amazing, and sometimes think they're amazing grindcore, or that they're the only gore band out there..

DiamondOfBlood
10-07-2007, 06:14 PM
Cause they're trend hoppers with pig squeels only for vocals, and they're music is pretty boring/uninspired.

And kids think they're amazing, and sometimes think they're amazing grindcore, or that they're the only gore band out there..


well thank you for the educated answer..thats all i wanted to know really..(no sarcasm if it feels like there is)

nayleD1337
10-07-2007, 08:40 PM
i like the cadaver, but i do agree with technicolor, and they are far from amazing.

technicolour
10-07-2007, 09:28 PM
well thank you for the educated answer..thats all i wanted to know really..(no sarcasm if it feels like there is)

You're welcome. Main reason I said what I said, was because I just had this experience where I was talking to someone who was starting a band and needed a bass player. I heard they were playing grindcore/death metal, or w/e so I wanted to try out.

Basically we started talking about grindcore and he brought up Waking the cadaver..and then I realized this person probably never listened to Napalm death, or Regurgitate..so that sucked for me.

nayleD1337
10-07-2007, 09:34 PM
^^ +5 cool points and a friend request from little ol' me =]

aggiefan33
10-07-2007, 09:39 PM
Basically we started talking about grindcore and he brought up Waking the cadaver..and then I realized this person probably never listened to Napalm death, or Regurgitate..so that sucked for me.
Shame :(

STABxYOU
10-07-2007, 10:31 PM
^ It could be worse, the last time I tried to start an emo band I got kids asking why the stuff I had worked on didn't sound like MCR. And they didn't know who Saetia were. And me without an icepick. :(

aggiefan33
10-07-2007, 10:34 PM
^ It could be worse, the last time I tried to start an emo band I got kids asking why the stuff I had worked on didn't sound like MCR. And they didn't know who Saetia were. And me without an icepick. :(
Oh man. I wouldn't dream of starting any kind of emo band around here.

thera_x
10-08-2007, 12:06 AM
AVOID
The Locust
See You Next Tuesday

I like CUNT. :(

Listen to Vomitorial Corpulence... everybody.

SilentSpectacle
10-08-2007, 12:09 AM
The only grindcore nowadays is Anapparatus, A Brutal Truth, old Cattle Decapitation, Discordance Axis, Embalming Theatre, Hatred Surge, Insect Warfare, Magrudergrind, Nasum, Pig Destroyer, Repulsion, ****storm, Terrorizer and Unholy Grave.
Cephalic Carnage are pretty grindy death metal too.

Death to false grindcore. I don't care if you like it or not, if it's not grindcore, don't call it that.

DiamondOfBlood
10-08-2007, 09:02 AM
You're welcome. Main reason I said what I said, was because I just had this experience where I was talking to someone who was starting a band and needed a bass player. I heard they were playing grindcore/death metal, or w/e so I wanted to try out.

Basically we started talking about grindcore and he brought up Waking the cadaver..and then I realized this person probably never listened to Napalm death, or Regurgitate..so that sucked for me.

yeah i really hate when some people slam around a horrible bands name..everybody in my highschool practically LOVES mcr..for example..this one fag emo kid made a joke about that "teenagers" song..and Im like "that was from that gay MCR song" and he's like "no **** its my favorite band"...commom sense right? jesus..

all he seems to talk about are his girl pants and how he hates his mom for trying to throw them away...and he thinks he's big **** because he makes jokes about freshmen..seriously..get a life man

stereotypes are a real plus when it comes to having little knowledge of music

guitarwannabe16
10-08-2007, 03:05 PM
The only grindcore nowadays is Anapparatus...
Anapparatus is grind?

SilentSpectacle
10-08-2007, 03:07 PM
Anapparatus is grind?
Demos and bit of the self-titled.

guitarwannabe16
10-08-2007, 03:11 PM
Is it possible for you to send me the self titled, or is your computer still jacked up? I have one of their releases and its pretty good but Im not sure which one its called

SilentSpectacle
10-08-2007, 03:14 PM
My diskdrive doesn't work, so all my music (at least half of it which is in the form of cd's/vinyl) can't be ripped to my computer.

aperfectshot176
10-08-2007, 10:50 PM
Most of us think that too. When we say hardcore, we don't mean metalcore, we are talking about hardcore punk.
And there are band around today that still play faster, angrier, heavier, punk rock and call it hardcore.
ill level with you, hardcore is suppossed to be faster heavier angrier punk rock, but with that being said this new hardcore and from what ive seen this forum doesnt talk about hardcore. it talk about what most people call hardcore these days, or at least where i live, metalcore and relating ****, which is ****. i wasnt insulting hardcore punk, i was assulting what now is the common phrase for hardcore. and where i started to begin with was grindcore, which i still dnt think is music, its still **** to me.

guitarwannabe16
10-08-2007, 10:57 PM
Thats fine if you think it's garbage, just know you're not changing anyone's minds here.

aperfectshot176
10-08-2007, 11:03 PM
yeah but im just pissing people off which is another thing i like doing so why stop

guitarwannabe16
10-08-2007, 11:42 PM
Bannination my friend. And pretty soon people will just stop posting to your replies.

DiamondOfBlood
10-09-2007, 09:48 AM
some bands around call themselves straight hardcore that dont sound like "hardcore" at all, like bury your dead..I hear like..no punk in that..i wonder where they get that from?..the word hardcore is generally abused alot i can agree with that at least

but this is besides the point from this forum