"Bass Drops" question


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ironman316
09-28-2007, 02:11 PM
I guess I don't know the real term for it, but in a lot of hardcore music they have what I call "bass drops". Those of you that have subs know what I'm talking about. :) For instance, Job for a Cowboy (yes, flame away...) and The Acacia Strain use them. They're just parts in the song where a nice bass tone starts at a certain note and then descends to a really low note that rumbles everything.

Anyways, I was wondering if anyone knows the technical name for that and possibly how to make one in FL Studio.

Thanks for any info.

-ironman316

guitarwannabe16
09-28-2007, 05:21 PM
I still dont know what you're talking about. Can you give a specific time section in a song?

SealCubMassacre
09-28-2007, 05:44 PM
Are you talking about bass booms on drumkits?

EG.

http://www.myspace.com/utg (go on Discordant and skip to 1.28)

Or bass slides on, erm, basses.

Eg.

http://www.myspace.com/jobforacowboy (entombment of a machine at 2.48 just before the beatdown).

???

ironman316
09-28-2007, 05:45 PM
get out some big subs and listen to entombment of a machine by job for a cowboy and i believe there's at least 6 of them. it's just like dooooooooooooooooooooooooo with each "o" going lower.

SealCubMassacre
09-28-2007, 05:50 PM
Give me the times they come in in Entombment and i might be able to help you out :)

waldorphPRS41
09-28-2007, 06:19 PM
get out some big subs and listen to entombment of a machine by job for a cowboy and i believe there's at least 6 of them. it's just like dooooooooooooooooooooooooo with each "o" going lower.
I know exactly what you are talking about. A Plea For Purging uses them too. If I'm not mistaken, their drummer had a pad he would hit to do it.

DBS_KICKS_ASS
09-28-2007, 08:10 PM
they just slide down the string starting higher

Paracetamol
09-28-2007, 08:21 PM
nah, what ive always known as a bass drop is where the band is playing while the low frequenies on the EQ are dropped and the mid, high mid, and high are all you can here so its basically just trebly sounding drums and trebly sounding guitars for example the intro of the guns up song you break, its usualy used as an intro like in that song where its just a copy and paste job of the following intro riffs, so these bass drop intro usually come last even though they are at the begining of the song. Thats what a few studios ive been to has called them to, but correct me if im wrong. Bury your dead use them a fair bit too.

SealCubMassacre
09-28-2007, 08:24 PM
They're called bass booms.

You need a drum module to do them live.

MustangMan311
09-29-2007, 11:13 AM
Haha, yeah, SealCub is right. You can find 808 samples, which were drum machines that did the original bass drops, online.

StuartR
09-29-2007, 12:05 PM
It's just a sub bass sample triggered at a certain point, never heard it done live.

A real bass drop is when the bass comes in in Drum & Bass, Dubstep, Reggae & some Techno and Hip-Hop.

DiamondOfBlood
09-29-2007, 12:10 PM
ion dissonance's drummer ha ssome kind of weird machine he hits when he does those...it was some kind of an electronic box/pad thing..on a stand..i did a thread on this at one point..i dont know the correct terminology for what this thing is either..id like to put them into songs

Job 4 a Cowboy
09-29-2007, 12:39 PM
yeah now hat every one has refreshed my memory:

it is the Ibanez 808 bass drum sample, I believe they edit the midi then put it on a trigger for live use. E.g all shall perish had a pad that they sound tested.

My friend has an electric drum kit for practicing at night and he has the Ibanez 808 setup on there and the bass sample sound just like what you are talking about, only more compact

STABxYOU
09-29-2007, 02:25 PM
^ Except it's a Roland TR-808. The official drum machine of old school hip-hop and industrial. ;)

Job 4 a Cowboy
09-30-2007, 11:57 AM
^lol I knew Ibanez did not sound right

STABxYOU
09-30-2007, 01:14 PM
^ Yeah, the Ibanez product with 808 in the name is a version of Tube Screamer. ;)

MustangMan311
09-30-2007, 02:17 PM
****! I just realized! THAT'S how HORSE was sounding so big the other night! Every minor fifth chord was brutal sounding (haha, br00tal), and he had a drum machine next to him! I wondered why he had it.

ironman316
09-30-2007, 02:51 PM
OK well I finally figured out how to do it in Adobe Audition.

You guys are right on on the definition though.

Basically if you go into Audition, up on the top menu is one called Generate. Click on tones and then in that window, uncheck "lock to these settings only" up in the top left, then set your base frequency at 75 or so, then click on the final settings tab up at the top, and set the base frequency at like 1. Then at the bottom it will say "Duration". If you're putting it in a song, 3-5 seconds is good.

Then hit either "Preview" or "OK" and there you have a Bass Drop or Bass Boom, or Sub Bass drop or whatever you want to call it. =]

The Dead Walk
10-01-2007, 01:44 PM
The term you all are looking for is "sub hit", sometimes referred to as a "bass hit" since some of them can be heard in cars or stereo systems without any significant sub-woofers.

A **** load of bands use them, but they definitely add alot to a live show.

Aus-10
10-03-2007, 12:51 AM
Thats what those are?

The Devil Wears Prada has implemented that.

The Dead Walk
10-03-2007, 01:59 PM
Along with just about every other metalcore/deathcore band that has released something in the last year.

Hell.. even Comeback Kid has them on their new album.

pmeg568c
10-03-2007, 02:02 PM
set your goals has a bass boom in one of their songs i forget though

Scourge441
10-03-2007, 04:46 PM
The Acacia Strain use them.
Which songs and when?

guitarwannabe16
10-03-2007, 05:09 PM
Every song, all the time.

DiamondOfBlood
10-04-2007, 09:29 AM
OK well I finally figured out how to do it in Adobe Audition.

You guys are right on on the definition though.

Basically if you go into Audition, up on the top menu is one called Generate. Click on tones and then in that window, uncheck "lock to these settings only" up in the top left, then set your base frequency at 75 or so, then click on the final settings tab up at the top, and set the base frequency at like 1. Then at the bottom it will say "Duration". If you're putting it in a song, 3-5 seconds is good.

Then hit either "Preview" or "OK" and there you have a Bass Drop or Bass Boom, or Sub Bass drop or whatever you want to call it. =]

tried this the other night..works perfectly

ironman316
10-04-2007, 11:04 AM
Which songs and when?

most acacia strain has just bass booms, not drops. which are still awesome. lol

angry mob justice has some i think. i forget where.

bloodyskull
10-10-2007, 01:46 PM
Thats what those are?

The Devil Wears Prada has implemented that.

tdwp does use them in their new album"plauges" my favorite is when they use it in dont dink and drance at the start of the breakdown.

but i dont think they use them live. they might but im not sure.

blessthefall usess them live(alot), matt has a roland sample pad.
he also uses it to do the intros like to a message to the unknown he uses it at every show.

snave2008
04-10-2008, 07:52 PM
emmure uses the **** out of bass drops....
i always liked hearing them on songs, but they sound so amazing when a band uses them live.

saxaxe
04-10-2008, 08:34 PM
If you google "808 bass drop sample" you can find an audio clip of one, which is how I get em in my songs.

andyq777
04-10-2008, 08:34 PM
set your goals has a bass boom in one of their songs i forget though

i believe there is one "goonies never say die"

i could be wrong

STABxYOU
04-11-2008, 12:58 PM
TR-808, the official drum machine of hip hop. <3

ibanezguitars44
05-13-2008, 06:07 PM
any easy way to do this using audacity?

'StoleN'
05-13-2008, 07:15 PM
There is a band called Bleeding From Within that has like 3 in ever ****ing song.
Gets really annoying, but i imagine it would sound insane live.

MustangMan311
05-13-2008, 07:27 PM
I was able to find an 80MB zip file of ridiculous bass drops to put into songs, that I've been saving for a year now. I just keep waiting, and waiting.

ibanezguitars44
05-13-2008, 08:30 PM
I was able to find an 80MB zip file of ridiculous bass drops to put into songs, that I've been saving for a year now. I just keep waiting, and waiting.

think you could send me some of that? lol. i really want to use one on this song im recording

'StoleN'
05-13-2008, 09:48 PM
I was able to find an 80MB zip file of ridiculous bass drops to put into songs, that I've been saving for a year now. I just keep waiting, and waiting.

80 ****ing megs?
how many bass drops are there?

MustangMan311
05-13-2008, 10:04 PM
Woops, not 80MB. 12MB. Haha. But there are 110+ different ones. Here you go: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=OLVMZS28

'StoleN'
05-13-2008, 10:06 PM
Woops, not 80MB. 12MB. Haha. But there are 110+ different ones. Here you go: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=OLVMZS28

7.24MB***
:peace:

xwearesinking
05-13-2008, 10:06 PM
dude, they're just called bass drops.

xxrobbiechaosxx
10-03-2008, 11:37 PM
I think everyone here can agree The Devil Wears Prada uses them the best<3

tomohawkjoe
10-03-2008, 11:56 PM
I think everyone here can agree The Devil Wears Prada uses them the best<3
nope

MustangMan311
10-04-2008, 12:58 PM
I've probably already mentioned this in this thread before, but HORSE the Band uses them live, and they sound ****ing monstrous. They don't use them on the CD, but they add so much feeling to the music when they hit the pad.

bunterrr
10-11-2008, 09:19 AM
hahahah bass drops. us aussies just call them boom effects. coz it sounds boomy. the problem is we havnt discussed the use of them live. all i can imagine for the live editing would be a drummers practise pad triggered to run through the drum machine.
dont ask, i know my drum stuff coz my dads a drummer.

andyq777
10-11-2008, 12:26 PM
the drummer from suicide silence uses them live

synestershadows
11-22-2008, 02:43 AM
i think from the shallows has some of the best bass drops. they use them well and they sound better than any others ive heard.

synestershadows
11-22-2008, 02:44 AM
nope
+1000000000000

STEVEgrind
05-31-2009, 12:51 AM
there are two highly effective ways to do them live. either, like mentioned breifly earlier, using an electric drum pad(preferrably with a tuning knob) tune it really really low and hook it up to a brain and run it through the pa, in which case the drummer has control of them, or use something like a boss loop station, load the bass drop you want onto it, and you have a bass drop pedal.
and yes, any metal band thats come out in the past like 3 years, has bassdrops all over the place, theyre pretty damn epic, hell even my band has them, haha

GodofCheesecake
05-31-2009, 09:53 AM
Too Pure To Die is the only band I've seen use them live. At least noticeably.

And they sucked.

EDIT: The band sucked, not the bass drops.

I<3Hobos
05-31-2009, 02:30 PM
i think from the shallows has some of the best bass drops. they use them well and they sound better than any others ive heard.
Yesssssss!

I love the bass drop in "Beyond The Unknown" right when they slow it down.


Soooooooooo goood!

Tallman
05-31-2009, 03:28 PM
Soundchecking bass drops is HILARIOUS.

xMetalJohnx
05-31-2009, 07:41 PM
there are two highly effective ways to do them live. either, like mentioned breifly earlier, using an electric drum pad(preferrably with a tuning knob) tune it really really low and hook it up to a brain and run it through the pa, in which case the drummer has control of them, or use something like a boss loop station, load the bass drop you want onto it, and you have a bass drop pedal.
and yes, any metal band thats come out in the past like 3 years, has bassdrops all over the place, theyre pretty damn epic, hell even my band has them, haha

I never thought of using the loop station before.

gutfeeling666
06-27-2010, 06:40 PM
Here's one I made in Audacity.

http://www.zshare.net/audio/7769202238580bcb/

Sounds HUGE through a sub. Knocked my headphones off my desk and it rattles my TV casing.

You could also tune this to the pitch you need (i.e. the pitch of the song B,A,C etc.) via a plug-in too.

Enjoy all!