Post-Hardcore VS Metalcore


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recklessnick
10-15-2007, 06:40 AM
can someone tell me the difference between post-hardcore and metalcore for bands like devil wears prada, drop dead gorgeous and underoath?

thera_x
10-15-2007, 06:41 AM
thats all metalcore, i was always told post-hardcore is stuff like hüsker dü

_-Skeletor-_
10-15-2007, 06:48 AM
wikipedia might help you.

recklessnick
10-15-2007, 06:55 AM
but those bands sound like silverstein, alesana, alexisonfire, etc

aggiefan33
10-15-2007, 07:45 AM
/slaps head

Listen to Fugazi, Drive Like Jehu, and At The Drive-In, then listen to Converge and Botch.

You tell me the difference.

bandersong
10-15-2007, 08:36 AM
Post-Hardcore = bad Metalcore = good, also none of those bands are post-hardcore (to the OP)

Draken
10-15-2007, 08:42 AM
post hardcore is stuff like at the drive-in and other amazing bands, metalcore is just silly.

Paris_In_Flames
10-15-2007, 04:01 PM
Post-Hardcore = bad Metalcore = good, also none of those bands are post-hardcore (to the OP)

Worst post I've ever seen.

ShellBlast
10-15-2007, 04:04 PM
Worst post I've ever seen.

I agree. Post hardcore is great. Go listen Ultra Dolphins.

Disco Vietnam
10-15-2007, 04:07 PM
My Eyes Are Burning

aggiefan33
10-15-2007, 04:21 PM
I agree. Post hardcore is great. Go listen Ultra Dolphins.
Backed really hard.

guitarwannabe16
10-15-2007, 04:31 PM
but those bands sound like silverstein, alesana, alexisonfire, etc
Thats all pop punk. Or like I said somewhere else, some people call it popcore

Several of those bands are now mainstream rock now.

thera_x
10-15-2007, 04:42 PM
alesana and alexisonfire arent pop-punk, theyre really bad commercial metalcore

J Lock
10-15-2007, 09:23 PM
Mealcore?
You never cease to amaze me, Sally.

Post-hardcore is hardcore taken in a different direction!
Just as the *gasp!* name implies!
Hehheh isnt that funny?
(Hot Cross, Trophy Scars, On the Might of Princes, Quantice Never Crashed)

Metalcore is.. wait a minute, hold on, I have this, it's on the tip of my tongue... nah.
I lost it.
Oh wait its metal combined with hardcore.
How'd I almost forget?
(Botch, Converge, Every Time I Die, Hatebreed)

frd_marshll
10-15-2007, 10:18 PM
/slaps head

Listen to Fugazi, Drive Like Jehu, and At The Drive-In, then listen to Converge and Botch.

You tell me the difference.


thats whats up

thera_x
10-16-2007, 12:09 AM
its closer to metalcore than pop-punk, theres a lot of bad metalcore, get over it

waldorphPRS41
10-16-2007, 12:32 AM
Mealcore?
You never cease to amaze me, Sally.

Post-hardcore is hardcore taken in a different direction!
Just as the *gasp!* name implies!
Hehheh isnt that funny?
(Hot Cross, Trophy Scars, On the Might of Princes, Quantice Never Crashed)

Metalcore is.. wait a minute, hold on, I have this, it's on the tip of my tongue... nah.
I lost it.
Oh wait its metal combined with hardcore.
How'd I almost forget?
(Botch, Converge, Every Time I Die, Hatebreed)
Haha I think you have a favorite person to mess with now.

thera_x
10-16-2007, 12:33 AM
i think he doesnt understand that these genres have commercial ends :/

waldorphPRS41
10-16-2007, 12:39 AM
Alexisonfire and Alesana are not metalcore though. The commercial end of metalcore would be like As I Lay Dying, Killswitch Engage, or Trivium or something like that.

thera_x
10-16-2007, 12:40 AM
theyre definitely not pop-punk, judge for yourself:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=3PYEoHRQYOE

that sounds like metalcore to me, atreyu style rubbish =/

this is pop-punk:
http://www.myspace.com/theexplodinghearts

waldorphPRS41
10-16-2007, 12:50 AM
You're RIGHT they are metalcore.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=QpjVTTRLsMc&mode=related&search=

They might have some songs that hard harder influences but they are not metalcore.

Jesus, we know what we are talking about. We aren't the average kids you might meet in everyday life who think slipknot is hardcore. J Lock had posted enough that I can usually agree with what he is saying because he knows his stuff. Stop trying to prove yourself by name dropping and all that. Prove yourself by knowing what you're talking about.

thera_x
10-16-2007, 12:54 AM
im just saying that those bands are closer to metalcore than they are to pop-punk, omg i dont know anything!

shai_savant
10-16-2007, 02:27 AM
Mealcore?
You never cease to amaze me, Sally.

Post-hardcore is hardcore taken in a different direction!
Just as the *gasp!* name implies!
Hehheh isnt that funny?
(Hot Cross, Trophy Scars, On the Might of Princes, Quantice Never Crashed)

Metalcore is.. wait a minute, hold on, I have this, it's on the tip of my tongue... nah.
I lost it.
Oh wait its metal combined with hardcore.
How'd I almost forget?
(Botch, Converge, Every Time I Die, Hatebreed)
Honestly, it's not even worth being a dick about this. There are so many misconceptions. For example many would classify Hot Cross as screamo. If you're new to this music I could see why it would be hard to not understand the genres.'.

thera_x
10-16-2007, 02:40 AM
isnt hot cross screamo though?

SuicidalSoldier
10-16-2007, 06:58 AM
I would say Alternative/Hardcore

guitarwannabe16
10-16-2007, 07:32 AM
Alternative seems like an appopriate genre name (not entirely sure what it means though)

aggiefan33
10-16-2007, 07:55 AM
I've never liked the bands going under "Alternative" to care what it means, haha.

recklessnick
10-16-2007, 11:13 AM
i just call them post-hardcore man. they are posthardcore+screamo to me. and i know fugazi, hot water music, etc. are also post-hardcore.

hXcMacbeth3
10-16-2007, 03:42 PM
Honestly, it's not even worth being a dick about this. There are so many misconceptions. For example many would classify Hot Cross as screamo. If you're new to this music I could see why it would be hard to not understand the genres.'.


long time no see

zayG
10-16-2007, 03:47 PM
i just call them post-hardcore man. they are posthardcore+screamo to me. and i know fugazi, hot water music, etc. are also post-hardcore.
Most screamo is close to post hardcore. Not many bands don't agree with this(Envy comes to mind, more post-rock then post-hardcore.) Doesn't work the opposite though.

PiNk_ThE_pUnK
10-16-2007, 05:02 PM
I'm closing this because it's just plain fucking stupid.