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recklessnick
02-20-2008, 04:42 AM
what does it take and need to start a small diy label just to release stuff from my own band and other friends. just asking, btw. does anyone have any ideas? pls share, thx

BrianApocalypse
02-20-2008, 04:50 AM
If you want to be legit, you'll need a trading license from your government etc, and this obviously varies from country to country.

You'll need to be able to make copies - you can pay to get this done, which yields good resultsand works out about $1 a unit if you order 500 or so, which includes artwork etc - or just burn CDR's, which is more expensive if you want to make booklets et al.

You'll need to record said bands, either DIY, or you can find local colleges/universities that do studio recording courses, as these will gladly record your bands for free.

You'll need a way to sell them, at shows etc, perhaps on the internet if you're into that sort of thing.

recklessnick
02-20-2008, 05:03 AM
so basically, we need money and recording/producing experience?

civildp1
02-20-2008, 05:25 AM
so basically, we need money and recording/producing experience?


yeah basically. And you don't actually absolutely need any recording experience. Studios have in house engineers that can work all of that end for you. Just costs more money.



In the end, it all comes down to money and the ability to get it. The hardest part of DIY releases is figuring out how to sell them.

BostonLacrosse
02-20-2008, 09:30 AM
you also need a sweet pUnk rawk name to, thats key to a successful label

BrianApocalypse
02-20-2008, 01:41 PM
yeah basically. And you don't actually absolutely need any recording experience. Studios have in house engineers that can work all of that end for you. Just costs more money.

Correct. You'll need a visionary to tell the engineers what you're trying to create, but that's not an unacquirable skill per se, at least one person in each band will be subjective and know what they want to achieve, even if they don't have the experience to oversee it.

In fact, I'm thinking of making a career as a freelance preproducer. I'll work with bands to shape them, and help in the studio for pretty cheap.


The hardest part of DIY releases is figuring out how to sell them.

Also correct, it's the one part of the label process that can't automate itself, it's the part that requires work.

Since the industry is shifting back to live music, shows are the obvious place to shift units, along with other merchandise.

Along with this, you'll have to showcase your group extremely well to convince people to buy a record, no matter how cheap.

While giving out cd's is punk rock, it's a very bad way to rake in profit, and will devalue the importance of your demo/ep/album and possibly demote it to teacoster.

Chaise Boogie
02-20-2008, 03:57 PM
I bet it'd be fun to be your own record company. And ****, what if somehow you blow the **** up and everyone likes you, you're gonna have a lot of money.

And what does money bring you? More musics.

And I was told that if you go to record, you have to know what you're doing and be good at it. Because if you're not, then you're just gonna do it over and waste time.

devourthekitten
02-20-2008, 05:52 PM
so basically, we need money and recording/producing experience?
No, because Flaming Chainsaws can do it for you.
http://www.myspace.com/flaminghchainsawsthingy

I_Pwn
02-20-2008, 06:39 PM
No, because Flaming Chainsaws can do it for you.
http://www.myspace.com/flaminghchainsawsthingy

Which user started that. I wanna see if they'd be interested in distributing/helping press my bands soon to-be recorded 7"

devourthekitten
02-20-2008, 06:58 PM
Which user started that. I wanna see if they'd be interested in distributing/helping press my bands soon to-be recorded 7"
I DID! HOORAY! If you have a MyFace, add me...I could also make you Queers/Minor Threat/I_Pwn shirts if you like.

EDIT:
I just realized your band is already a friend on there.

I_Pwn
02-20-2008, 07:38 PM
Haha, so would you guys be willing to help us pay for the pressing or distro? We'd put your logo/whatever on it. Shits expensive, so we wanna see if anyone can help us out before we go putting our life savings into it.

devourthekitten
02-20-2008, 08:40 PM
Haha, so would you guys be willing to help us pay for the pressing or distro? We'd put your logo/whatever on it. Shits expensive, so we wanna see if anyone can help us out before we go putting our life savings into it.
I don't know. I mean, I'd love to, but I never have any money...I'll put in whatever whenever I make some sales (I haven't made any in a while).

I guess just message me on MyFace, I'm scayed of getting banned or something for all the unrelenting spam I post :p:

Oh yeah, and it's actually not "you guys", it's just me. :(


AND...
recklessnick:
Would you like to partner up with Flaming Chainsaws, so we both get double publicity and stuff? I need some sales, and I imagine you'd like to get started or something...

I_Pwn
02-20-2008, 09:45 PM
I don't know. I mean, I'd love to, but I never have any money...I'll put in whatever whenever I make some sales (I haven't made any in a while).

I guess just message me on MyFace, I'm scayed of getting banned or something for all the unrelenting spam I post :p:

Oh yeah, and it's actually not "you guys", it's just me. :(


AND...
recklessnick:
Would you like to partner up with Flaming Chainsaws, so we both get double publicity and stuff? I need some sales, and I imagine you'd like to get started or something...

I went to message you earlier and it said I couldn't because "you were away"

crustyreed
02-20-2008, 10:06 PM
Nick BTW postage to the states now is a problem. UPS just got rid of their 'ground postal' service which most DIY labels used so their is gonna be a huge drop in US/Singapore (? cant remember where you live sorry.)


BTW devour where in texas do you live?

devourthekitten
02-22-2008, 06:30 PM
Nick BTW postage to the states now is a problem. UPS just got rid of their 'ground postal' service which most DIY labels used so their is gonna be a huge drop in US/Singapore (? cant remember where you live sorry.)


BTW devour where in texas do you live?
West. Why?

I went to message you earlier and it said I couldn't because "you were away"
Oh, sorry. Dumb MyFace...I'll try to make it so I can be messaged whenever...I THINK I know how...

recklessnick
02-23-2008, 01:48 AM
AND...
recklessnick:
Would you like to partner up with Flaming Chainsaws, so we both get double publicity and stuff? I need some sales, and I imagine you'd like to get started or something...

i live in singapore. but if you want, you can post over some stuff and i can open a distro for your bands.
the punx in sg listen to crust punk and grindcore and dbeat stuff....
http://myspace.com/underxattack
http://myspace.com/yogyakarta
http://myspace.com/subtlexrevenge - old school hardcore
http://myspace.com/vocesxinocentes
http://myspace.com/thescuds77 - female-fronted 77s punk

you'll get the idea

Iluvpowerchords
02-23-2008, 02:32 AM
West. Why?


Do you know Anton Chigurh?

He's badass.

BrianApocalypse
02-23-2008, 10:31 AM
My beef with indie record labels is that they like to play majors, because they have a very limited budget and are only interested in the media that will recoup the most profit.

I think that bands should put out their own stuff, and not intervene with others. Sure, it's cool, but if you have a say in what bands do, it's not their artistic statement.

That's just my view though, it's also pretty cool to invest in the scene, so to speak.

devourthekitten
02-23-2008, 01:37 PM
i live in singapore. but if you want, you can post over some stuff and i can open a distro for your bands.
the punx in sg listen to crust punk and grindcore and dbeat stuff....
http://myspace.com/underxattack
http://myspace.com/yogyakarta
http://myspace.com/subtlexrevenge - old school hardcore
http://myspace.com/vocesxinocentes
http://myspace.com/thescuds77 - female-fronted 77s punk

you'll get the idea
I just added all those bands and told them I'd be happy to "sign" them and stuff. Hopefully a few will go for it... What do you mean open a distro for my bands? I don't have bands yet, but if you're opening a DIY thing and you make a MyFace for it, add me.

original=punk
02-24-2008, 12:25 AM
DTK, could I add you on myspace?

recklessnick
02-24-2008, 07:57 AM
whats a myface? do you have a myspace acc? if so, can i have ur address and account info.
i thought you had a diy label called flaming chainsaws? you dont have any bands on the label yet?

devourthekitten
02-24-2008, 12:06 PM
whats a myface? do you have a myspace acc? if so, can i have ur address and account info.
i thought you had a diy label called flaming chainsaws? you dont have any bands on the label yet?
MyFace=MySpace, because all the scene kids are always posting pictures of my (their) face(s).
Yeah, just go to http://www.myspace.com/flamingchainsawsthingy (hopefully I'll get the time to change the url soon, I hate "thingy")
Add, add, add, add, add, add, add. What do you mean by account info?