What is average pay for gigs?


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Bradexman
03-04-2008, 10:20 PM
Would my band even get paid? We're between 14 and 17 and want to play some gigs. Do they usually pay people our age for gigs, and if so how much?

Zeh
03-04-2008, 10:27 PM
$400+ per person at a small bar.

AcsticRckr89
03-04-2008, 10:29 PM
it depends where you gig and how good you are

FLNagle
03-04-2008, 10:30 PM
$400+ per person at a small bar.
:rolleyes:

my band is 14/15, and we play all ages shows at venues around here. (as in, not bars.) normally, it works on a basis of something like 'if you bring less than 20 people, you get nothing. if you bring 20 people, we hand you $20. ever person after that is $1. if you bring over 50 people, ever person after that is $2' or something. contact the different venues to get a better idea of what happens there.

:edit: these prices for a half an hour set. i probably should have posted that originally. :(

Bradexman
03-04-2008, 10:30 PM
$400+ per person at a small bar.


wow really? Do you know about cafes or places that people under 18 can play at?

Moose1309
03-04-2008, 10:32 PM
My parents' band is a professional, contest winning band that has been at it for 20 yrs, and they charge $550 at an average 4 hour bar gig. My band is just getting out there, and charges $250 for a three hour show, but as our rep. increases, so will our cost ;) Thats for a show someone calls to hire us, but if we want to put together our own show, (rent a room, equipment, etc.) we usually get us and one or two more bands together and charge $5 per person. It usually turns out to get some O.K. pay, but it all depends on the size of the crowd, cost of the room, etc.

FLNagle
03-04-2008, 10:39 PM
wow really? Do you know about cafes or places that people under 18 can play at?
i'm pretty sure he was kidding.

if he wasnt, its because his band has been around for a while and brings a large crowd. you're not going to be making that right off the bat, if anything at all.

axemanchris
03-04-2008, 10:58 PM
$400+ per person at a small bar.

Hmmm.... let's do the math on that, shall we....

Let's just arbitrarily pick some numbers to see how they shake down.
Based on a 4-piece band, that would be $1600+.

$5 cover x 80 people = $400 in money from the door. No more than about 80 people if it is a small bar.

Now, $4 a beer x 3 beers each and every person = $1200.

There is your $1600 for the band.

So.... I wonder what the likelihood is of a small bar willing to give you the entire proceeds of the first 300 drinks sold at the bar - the small bar - even when there is already a cover at the door?

Bah! I'm not convinced.

Remember the objective of the bar is to make money. They will want to pay the band NO MORE than the difference between the actual end of night cash and what the bar would bring in on its own, without the band. Otherwise, they'd be better off just not having a band. Compound that with the fact that there are tons of bands out there that would gladly pay for free, AND bring friends out who would drink, and that raises the bar on how *little* they're willing to pay the next guy.

CT

Bradexman
03-04-2008, 11:01 PM
Yeah I would play for free because I just love it so much, but the money is a bonus. Thanks guys.

Zycho
03-04-2008, 11:18 PM
Depends on the venue you play. Different places have different stuff. Also, of course you should get paid if you go out there and put on a good show. If a venue ever stiffed me I'd make sure I never play there again and inform all the bands I know what kind of a ****ty venue it is.

Slaytanic1993
03-04-2008, 11:34 PM
You might end up with roughly $40/person off the bat...after awhile it'll go up if people like your band.

FuzzyBear
03-05-2008, 05:39 AM
$400+ per person at a small bar.


bull****

thats just not true

when your starting off youll be lucky to get petrol money, my band gets between nothing and 140 is the most weve got and thats as a support act in the barfly and bringing in 80 people


but of course the more you play the more gigs your likely to get offered if your good and the more chances of getting paid and if you have abit of money behind you you can always sell some cd's and tshirts for a few quid but itll likely take you awhile to get your initial investment back

SlackerBabbath
03-05-2008, 06:30 AM
Almost everyone starts of playing for free or very little money. As you get better, and more importantly, (as far as how much you get paid is concerned) once you build up a following that will come to see you play, then your money will go up.
There will come a point in your career when you can say, 'We will not play for anything below a cirtain amount because we know that we will attract a cirtain amount of people to see us which will in turn generate a larger amount for whoever is paying you.
The actual amount is impossible to say though at the moment. It's like asking how long a piece of string is.
If you play bars, it may be a minimum of 100 ($200) or if it's a larger club, and you fill the place, it may be anything from 300 to 600 depending on the size of the place, or if it's a theatre, and you know that you are well known enough to fill it, it can be 1000 plus.
Stadium bands quite often get 1 million plus for a gig.
What is important though if you want to make some cash is to sell promo stuff like t-shirts, badges, recordings, ect at your gigs.

kidcasino
03-07-2008, 04:05 AM
As you've just started out, its unlikely that you'll make any money at all. Where go you live? I originally lived on a small island in between Scotland and Norway and the bands I played in got quite a fair chunk off money after every gig. I then moved to Edinburgh (the capital of Scotland) and got paid an absolute pitance (if anything) for gigs.

It really depends where you play. Some venues have a policy that you get paid for everyone who pays to see you after venue costs have been paid. Other places will pay you a share of the ammount made at the bar (though this probably doesn't apply to you).

Just enjoy it, if you don't expect anything then you wont be disheartened when the money doesnt exactly roll in.

P.S You ever think of starting a wedding/function band? Thats where the real money is at.

SlackerBabbath
03-07-2008, 07:25 AM
P.S You ever think of starting a wedding/function band? Thats where the real money is at.
Y'know, I thought the exact same thing, until I joined a tribute band. ;)

YHN-DF
03-07-2008, 07:55 AM
In Holland we as a solid though still a bit amateuristic metalband usually get 50 euros for a show, sometimes 100 and we're quite happy when that happens. It's not like we ever got into this with the idea we'd get money out of it. Besides, we all enjoy gigging a lot so we've done a few shows that didn't even get us any money. Just a good time had by all :)

JLT73
03-07-2008, 09:10 AM
my band gets all of the door usually.

so really anywhere from 200 - 1000. Also if the venue really likes you, they may give you a bonus to keep you interested in coming back.

plus any money for selling merchandise and cds

a good night we will walk out with near 1500 or so.

OpposingForce
03-08-2008, 10:16 AM
My friend just played at this club and they gave their band $2 per ticket sale. So there were around 75-100 people (I was there with a friend as well) so they made around $200. Split between 4 people is $50 each. Not bad for one night, and 30 mins - 1 hr of playing.

DanielQ
03-09-2008, 02:14 PM
A lot of bars will give you a percentage of their profits for the night, often 10%... not recommended to do this though. Flat rates are better.

Spazz128735
03-10-2008, 09:58 PM
most shows you can get, you usually break even, with gas money, snack food, etc.

dmiwshicldply
03-10-2008, 11:25 PM
we always tend to drink all of our money up :( btu we generally only bring out about 25-50$ per person so we jsut use the excuse that we're makin fans by drinkin with em haha

jamsea
03-10-2008, 11:44 PM
If you're in a bar/wedding/tribute/cruise band you'll make some money. If you're just in an all ages band don't expect any cash until you build the following. However, once you've been around for a little while, your best bet to make some cash is on merch sales. We've been around for just under a year and managed to sell 50 shirts. We bought them for 8 bucks a shirt and sold them for 12 and made a nice profit we're going to use towards recordings. CD sales are even better because they're pennies to make and you can sell them to make an even larger profit.

skagitup
03-12-2008, 09:53 AM
If you're in a bar/wedding/tribute/cruise band you'll make some money. If you're just in an all ages band don't expect any cash until you build the following. However, once you've been around for a little while, your best bet to make some cash is on merch sales. We've been around for just under a year and managed to sell 50 shirts. We bought them for 8 bucks a shirt and sold them for 12 and made a nice profit we're going to use towards recordings. CD sales are even better because they're pennies to make and you can sell them to make an even larger profit.

Agreed. Selling merch is a great way to build up some cash, more so than charging money for gigs. How much you get paid shouldn't really be important when you first start out. You should do as many as you can for free just to get your name around a bit.

Sweetbabyjezuz
03-12-2008, 09:59 PM
We play 45 minute sets on 3-4 band bills at the Bars, the most we've ever gotten is 125 for the band. Usually it's in the $80 area. Our first gig ever was $12, then $36 is the highest that one venue paid, don't really go back there anymore.

But yeah so far usually between 80-100. Hardly anything when you consider if we were relying on it it'd be split 5 ways. We just throw it all in a band fund for our CD/Merch stuff.

Berlioz97
03-13-2008, 12:52 AM
Would my band even get paid? We're between 14 and 17 and want to play some gigs. Do they usually pay people our age for gigs, and if so how much?
If you live anywhere near California, your band will be banned from playing gigs if you ever ask this question again.

Honestly, I've only played paying gigs at places that are 21 and over and places I had to drive several hours to play at, and it was after some real hard work....

Promoters are jackoffs these days they won't pay you unless you can bs them into thinking youre big.

warlockking
03-16-2008, 02:11 AM
Does anyone have any ideas of places to play besides bars?

OpposingForce
03-16-2008, 08:23 PM
Clubs or small theaters maybe? Call them up and ask about booking

trey-col89
03-17-2008, 11:28 AM
Generally how it works when your a teenager, either you get nothing (in some cases you'll even have to pay the venue some charge or whatever)

OR

The venue will charge you a certain amount of money and give you X number of tickets. So lets say they charge you 100 bucks to play and they give you 50 tickets. Sell 10 tickets for 10 bucks and you break even, sell less and you lose money, sell more and you make money.

If you guys are 14-17 years old, chances are venues won't be throwing big bucks at you to get you to play their stage.