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HPLoveCraft
03-14-2008, 07:07 PM
I used to like Sum 41 about 2 years ago. Thought they were alright until Chuck came out.

The reason I hate their guts now is because I've been getting into the band Morning Glory. What a great band.

So I'm listening to the song We Just Don't Believe. I hear the beginning to it and I'm like, "I can swear I've heard this before." Then I realize the song No Reason by Sum 41 is a ****ing carbon copy of it.

I go and check the release dates on the two albums and Morning Glory's album came out a good year before Chuck.

So basically Sum 41 sucks dick for copying Morning Glory's song.

Any other punk songs out there that you guys know have been blatantly ripped off by mainstream bands?

HUGE EDIT: Lol now I feel like a fool. When I looked up the release dates I thought the song was on the original and not the reissue.

I therefore declare that I hate Morning Glory for copying Sum 41 :confused:

StreetLight3989
03-14-2008, 07:09 PM
Haha, I know Steve Jones ripped off an Abba song for Pretty Vacant. That's the other way around though.

lolmnt
03-14-2008, 07:10 PM
Maybe Morning Glory copied Sum 41







Ever think of that?

frigginjerk
03-14-2008, 07:12 PM
it's entirely possible that two different band wrote the same generic punk song and weren't aware of each other.

me_llamo_juan
03-14-2008, 07:13 PM
Yeah, perhaps, Sum 41 had written it before, but hadn't been able to release it yet because they didn't have enough material to go with it?

TJ1991
03-14-2008, 07:14 PM
Yeah, there's probably more songs use like the D - A - B - G chord progression in whatever key than don't. It's nothing surprising.

nt1440
03-14-2008, 07:15 PM
and u hate the band over one song? when most of them sound the same any way?

Vin2254
03-14-2008, 07:16 PM
We Just Don't Believe came out in 2007. No Reason was released in 2004. so No Reason was wrote a good 3 years before We Just Don't Believe.

AthenasGhost
03-14-2008, 07:17 PM
it's entirely possible that two different band wrote the same generic punk song and weren't aware of each other.

+1 I'm not bashing the genre, I was a fan of Sum 41 before Chuck came out, (Thought they went to **** after this album) but honestly, in this genre it's Sooooo easy to write similar stuff and I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if it was just a coincidence.

HPLoveCraft
03-14-2008, 07:18 PM
Normally I wouldn't care but it's so ****ing obvious. There's no mistaking it. Even the opening shouts are the same and sound the same.

And if you really believe Sum 41 thought of it first then that makes no sense. I can think of a song, but if I don't release it and someone else releases the exact same song, well then it's their song not mine.

lolmnt
03-14-2008, 07:20 PM
We Just Don't Believe came out in 2007. No Reason was released in 2004. so No Reason was wrote a good 3 years before We Just Don't Believe.So I was right!



*pretends that he wasn't joking in the first post*


*sees previous post, stops pretending*

*wonders why people delete their posts*

original=punk
03-14-2008, 07:21 PM
*Enters thread*

*sighs, covers face with hands, mutters "oh dear lord"*

*contemplates saying something*

*"**** it," leaves room*

ShyGuy {IZAIAH}
03-14-2008, 07:23 PM
just cause their from the same genre doesn't mean that they are aware of each other
and besides
how long has chuck been under mastering and stuff?
just cause it was released in 2004 doesnt mean it was initially recorded and written in 2004

SuperBlob
03-14-2008, 07:35 PM
Haha, I know Steve Jones ripped off an Abba song for Pretty Vacant. That's the other way around though.
And the riff from In the City by The Jam for Holidays in the Sun :p:

Ska Wars
03-14-2008, 08:03 PM
Sum 41 > Morning Glory




Yeah, I said it.

IlikeTheSKA
03-14-2008, 10:15 PM
Sum 41 > Morning Glory




Yeah, I said it.

recklessnick
03-15-2008, 12:09 AM
morning glory > sum 41

usually they are just coincidences because how many chord progressions or drum beats can there actually be? but as for sum 41, they copied the verse of master of puppets in the song "still waiting" the exact same riff. that is unmistakable and definitely not a coincidence as the guitarist of sum 41 is heavily influenced by heavy metal, which metalhead hasn't heard of master of puppets?

JesusOfSbrbia
03-15-2008, 02:05 AM
Haha, I know Steve Jones ripped off an Abba song for Pretty Vacant. That's the other way around though.
And then Morning Glory used the same riff in "The Whole World is Watching".

The conversation just went full circle!! :eek: :wtf:

EDIT: I've never heard the Morning Glory song in question, but I just listened to "No Reason" to refresh my memory, and the whole song definitely sounds like something Morning Glory would put out. In all honesty, Sum 41 and Morning Glory have more similarities than I previously realized.

axeslash
03-15-2008, 02:14 AM
I know this all just a clever plot to get me to listen to Sum 41. But I will not falter, can not fail, and do not fail victim to such thinly veiled plots.

ss311
03-15-2008, 03:22 AM
Waiting for the Next Big Parade by D Generation begins like Guns/Afg. Rebels by Angelic Upstarts.

JesusOfSbrbia
03-15-2008, 03:32 AM
The beginning of "No Pride" by Green Day is the same as "Born to Die" by Anti-Flag.

lavazza
03-15-2008, 06:52 AM
I can give you a reason to dislike Sum 41: Their music is ****

suthy16
03-15-2008, 06:55 AM
Eh, "Pieces" is kind of a rip off "The Scientist" as well. Along with "Underclass Hero" being a mash-up of their own song "Fat Lip" and the pre-chorus of Blink-182's "Feeling This".

SuperBlob
03-15-2008, 10:24 AM
The beginning of "No Pride" by Green Day is the same as "Born to Die" by Anti-Flag.
Oh, and Holiday = < The Passenger.

StreetLight3989
03-15-2008, 10:57 AM
Also Little Bitch>Time Bomb, but Big D did a good job covering Little Bitch.

Ska Wars
03-15-2008, 11:04 AM
Eh, "Pieces" is kind of a rip off "The Scientist" as well. Along with "Underclass Hero" being a mash-up of their own song "Fat Lip" and the pre-chorus of Blink-182's "Feeling This".
and the chorus is "Subject To Change", but that was just a bonus track, so I guess it doesn't matter.

The first few seconds of "Game Of Pricks" by the Chinese Telephones sounds just like "No Way Out" by D Generation :p:

SuperBlob
03-15-2008, 11:18 AM
Also Little Bitch>Time Bomb, but Big D did a good job covering Little Bitch.
+1 on all accounts.
That cover is one of the few modern covers of a classic song that doesn't sound like complete crap.

original=punk
03-15-2008, 11:20 AM
just think of it this way, Sum 41 is the worlds most popular cover band!

lavazza
03-15-2008, 11:22 AM
just think of it this way, Sum 41 is the worlds most popular cover band!

:peace: Read another thread itīs Fall out boy

zyx
03-15-2008, 12:33 PM
There's a site (http://sum-ripoff.tk/) about this. I don't agree with all of it, but there are some similarities between their songs and stuff from other bands.

dannay
03-15-2008, 02:01 PM
morning glory > sum 41, even if they did "rip them off."
selling out is worse than ripping off in my opinion.

Ska Wars
03-15-2008, 02:13 PM
morning glory > sum 41, even if they did "rip them off."
selling out is worse than ripping off in my opinion.
When and how did Sum 41 sell out?

CowsWithGuns
03-15-2008, 02:17 PM
Posting about actual punk bands in the punk and ska forum > posting about pop rock bands in the punk and ska forum


SNAP! Anyone want some aloe vera for that burn?

sargasm
03-15-2008, 02:21 PM
That's why you don't like Sum 41?

Honestly, I couldn't care less who they ripped off. They're just a terrible band to begin with.

lolmnt
03-15-2008, 02:26 PM
I remember when Sum 41 kicked ass. 6th grade was fun

StreetLight3989
03-15-2008, 03:04 PM
Posting about actual punk bands in the punk and ska forum > posting about pop rock bands in the punk and ska forum


SNAP! Anyone want some aloe vera for that burn?
This is why we all missed you so much.

original=punk
03-15-2008, 03:22 PM
When and how did Sum 41 sell out?


Exactly, they never did, they were pop rock the entire time.

IlikeTheSKA
03-15-2008, 03:31 PM
I don't want to waste my time
become another casualty of society.
I'll never fall in line
Become another victim of your conformity
And back down.

I know you all know the lyrics.

FatKidsOnMopeds</3
03-15-2008, 04:02 PM
wrong forum

original=punk
03-15-2008, 04:02 PM
bee
cuz
you
don't

know us at all, we laugh when old people fall
but what would you expect with a conscience so small?
Heavy metal
and mullets
It's how we were raised
Maiden and Priest were the gods that we praised.



p0nX!