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duke9738
03-23-2004, 06:13 PM
in order to stop all the threads asking what emo is, ive decided to write up an article on the history of emo. CHEERS and thanks def for letting me do this.

WHAT THE FUKING FUK IS EMO!?!?!

Is the world flat? Are those real? What is emo?

probably the three greatest questions in rememberance. And while the first two have arguably been answered one question still remains, what IS emo?

Emo: (e-mo)adj.
A mocked, maligned, and mostly misunderstood genre of emotionally charged/inspired punk(or hardcore).

now if you dont want to listen to me and would rather go somewhere with lots of nice things for you to click go to www.fourfa.com

As far as the history of emo goes, fourfa.com has a very detailed insight to that i suggest you read, im simply going to paraphrase for you....

HISTORY OF EMO

In 1983 the DC scene was the center of hardcore-punk. But when Minor Threat broke up bands started to wonder if they should be moving on. Bands split in all sort of direction from cheese metal to tough guy mosh. But in the midst of that a direction seemed to have been found. Instead of taking punk-hardcore faster and harder, some decided to take it to a more melodic point.

It is arguable(and my opinion)
that that is when the first band that could be labeled
"emo" arrived in 1984...The Rites of Spring

Rites of Spring introduced an unheard of vocal style with gasping out of breath to screaming, but the trick is, they all accented the lyrics. which were dripping with emotion and sweat.

Next summer, the summer of 1985 became known as
THE REVOLUTION SUMMER
Hardcore bands all over started to take on a more melodic sound. They were all given the tag "emo-core"

About a year later bands started to play around with "emo" itself. They had emo-core, but how far could they take the "emo" part?
The Hated were the first post-rites of spring to accualy produce a sound adequate to the characteristics of simply, "emo".

thats where fourfa.com leaves us. And in my opinion its pretty safe to say emo continued steadily on that path with bands like Jawbreaker and the Promise Ring until about 1994. Newcomers to the circuit Sunny Day Real Estate put out the "end-all-be-all" album Diary. They spawned an entire army of clones with thier alterntive/indie/emo sound. (most notably the get up kids) Few bands were able to get out of SDRE's shadow. Texas is the Reason were one who did. Mineral and Elliot are also noted in escaping their "sunny day real estate clone" label.

Now not to target them or anything, but if you turn on your radio or tv your quite aware emo has been infiltrated by the mainstream(i dont believe it to be the other way around). So you have to wonder when exactly this happened. And i believed it was unintentional, but they were also the first to divide and shock many fans by using a TOUR BUS:eek: ...The Get Up Kids. The Get Up Kids have built up an amazing popularity. Even making it onto the billboard charts. But this jump from basements to mtv wasnt in a day. Theyve been flirting with mass commercialization for most of the past 5 years.

The lines of underground emo/commercial emo/pop punk/melodic punk are always becoming more blurred. and "are they emo" is a question a band that falls into any of those categories will get these days. Speaking of these days, whats emo been up to lately?

Go back to 2001. The none less than groundbreak Full Collapse was released to the world curtisy of Thursday. Almost any hardcore/emocore band today copies thier style, and they are one of the few modern legends of emo.

But...another album was released 2001. Brand New's Your Favorite Weapon. Considered pop punk at the time becuse of their sound, Jessy Lacey's lyrics broke free of anything considered a norm. This cd was considered very good, but not many people saw it as amazing.

Fast forward to about 9 months ago. Deja Entendu made Brand New Rolling Stone's Band of the Year for 2003. The amazing lyrical and musical curveballs on this disc are unmissable. The mixture of electric and acoustic, the layered vocals, and almost absence of powerchords created a cd that supposedly (i do not have this confirmed) did not recieve a negative review.

I think thats enuf of the history of emo

so instead of arguing how much crying makes a band emo, or what characterists they have, i thought that knowing emos history wud make it easier for u to make the distincing of labels for any bands you have to question.

Yes, emo is whiny. Yes, it is very often about breakups but NO that is not always the case. Go back to the defenition at the beggining. It does not say Emo:A band that sings about lost love. That would encompass almost 60% of every band in history, doubt that all you want but seriously think about it.

To conclude this essay, that probably, wont solve anything, is make emo what you want. Hate it, Love it, Whatever. It dosent matter, but please, ****ing understand it first. I can see why people wud love emo, i can see why people wud hate it and BOTH ARE COMPLETELY VALID!

I know thats prolly an hour longer than what you wanted to read but i hope it helped clear a thing or to up for you.

Defiance
03-23-2004, 06:24 PM
ok

m3e6oHocK
03-23-2004, 07:08 PM
thank you... i enjoyed reading it
*applause*

JH013
03-23-2004, 07:08 PM
And in my opinion its pretty safe to say emo continued steadily on that path with bands like Jawbreaker and the Promise Ring until about 1984.

dont you mean 94?


Rites of Spring kick ass. everyone should check them out.

good job, duke :cheers:

emokid182
03-23-2004, 07:36 PM
That was a good read. and maybe it will stop all the people asking what emo is.

SeeinYellow
03-23-2004, 08:03 PM
everyone has ta know what emo is...
its just "common sense"

Glard
03-23-2004, 08:46 PM
.bravo

duke9738
03-23-2004, 09:14 PM
Originally posted by JH013
And in my opinion its pretty safe to say emo continued steadily on that path with bands like Jawbreaker and the Promise Ring until about 1984.

dont you mean 94?

ur right sorry, changed that.

underground_kid
03-23-2004, 11:03 PM
Originally posted by duke9738
To conclude this essay, that probably, wont solve anything, is make emo what you want. Hate it, Love it, Whatever. It dosent matter, but please, ****ing understand it first. I can see why people wud love emo, i can see why people wud hate it and BOTH ARE COMPLETELY VALID!

i love it!

FatKidsOnMopeds</3
03-23-2004, 11:29 PM
wud? lol thats so emo

RaY_TrEeS
03-24-2004, 09:59 AM
i fuc</B>kin hate emo man. goddamit, its so annoying

duke9738
03-24-2004, 10:00 AM
thats nice, hopefully you read the article though

Crink
03-24-2004, 04:47 PM
i read it all it was enjoyable... good job...

dai the flu
03-25-2004, 03:02 AM
i think you shouldve mentioned summore modern bands other than thursday and brand new, but its all good. nice job :-)

wehttam
03-25-2004, 03:28 AM
choice work

note to rob: get your ass in the chat sometime

still-breathing
03-25-2004, 05:37 AM
thats really great^^.

i actually enjoyed reading it

good work!

*Def*
03-25-2004, 05:46 AM
stuckied ;P

TakingBakSunday
03-25-2004, 05:58 PM
very nice....clears up gay ****s like travis pease from colfax IA

stellar_legs
03-28-2004, 12:20 AM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by duke9738
It is arguable(and my opinion)
that that is when the first band that could be labeled
"emo" arrived in 1984...The Rites of Spring


You ar eso right on that one. I'm guessing you and I are probably the only two to ever listen to them. Kids, you ahve to look for there debut.

I love Rites of Spring, and I thank your for noting them as the founders of a genre who, I believe, has gotten worse and worse and worse.......Good emo stopped with ATD-I in my opinion......

duke9738
03-28-2004, 02:34 PM
yea getting that the rites of spring started was relly my main goal with this, ive heard one too many people say Weezer invented emo.(ive nothing against weezer)

stellar_legs
03-28-2004, 03:43 PM
Originally posted by duke9738
yea getting that the rites of spring started was relly my main goal with this, ive heard one too many people say Weezer invented emo.(ive nothing against weezer)

Yeah, Rivers is actually a very talented guitarist.

TripleB8326
03-28-2004, 05:15 PM
I agree, stellar job.

Note to matt: get your head out of your ass sometime! :peace:

system
04-04-2004, 12:24 AM
*claps*

genish
04-04-2004, 02:12 PM
emo sucks. how can you stand listening to it for more than 10 seconds

duke9738
04-04-2004, 02:18 PM
Originally posted by genish
emo sucks. how can you stand listening to it for more than 10 seconds

well it was a tough decision between emo and nu metal, but ultimately we decided to go with the music with enough moaning to masturbate to

MrLucky77713
04-04-2004, 05:03 PM
ya but fred durst is soooo kewl!!!11!! lolzzzzzzz!!!1!!! omg im so kewl!!!!1! how cud uz nawt liek nu-meatl!?!?!!?!11?

erm....noo... You see, I love it how everyone who hates emo has NEVER HEARD IT, or at least heard good emo.

stellar_legs
04-04-2004, 08:27 PM
Originally posted by MrLucky77713
ya but fred durst is soooo kewl!!!11!! lolzzzzzzz!!!1!!! omg im so kewl!!!!1! how cud uz nawt liek nu-meatl!?!?!!?!11?

erm....noo... You see, I love it how everyone who hates emo has NEVER HEARD IT, or at least heard good emo.

I've heard so much bad Emo that I don't know what good Emo is anymore.

And what the hell is up with that goddamn name. "Emo?" Jesus Christ that's a horrible label for a genre. Every time I say that word I feel like I need to grow a pair. It's just too....feminene and childish. Why don't they just call it "Melodic Punk" or "Sing-a-long Campfire Punk" or something along those lines?

Ace From Space
04-04-2004, 11:41 PM
although i hate emo, i liked the article. nice.

there isnt much good rock these days... mainly our choices being emo or nu-metal... i go with the death metal though.

i hate my skool
04-05-2004, 07:11 AM
Originally posted by stellar_legs
[QUOTE]Originally posted by duke9738
It is arguable(and my opinion)
that that is when the first band that could be labeled
"emo" arrived in 1984...The Rites of Spring


You ar eso right on that one. I'm guessing you and I are probably the only two to ever listen to them. Kids, you ahve to look for there debut.

I love Rites of Spring, and I thank your for noting them as the founders of a genre who, I believe, has gotten worse and worse and worse.......Good emo stopped with ATD-I in my opinion......

rites of spring are amazing .. have you got 'end on end'?

MrLucky77713
04-05-2004, 10:38 AM
Emo (short for emotional) I gues sis just the bastardization of "Emotional Punk" And besides, not all melodic punk is emo.

"Sing-along-Campire Punk"...That's great....I'm gonna start calling it that and see what my emo friend does...

duke9738
04-06-2004, 11:35 PM
Originally posted by i hate my skool
rites of spring are amazing .. have you got 'end on end'?

i dont accualy just a song or two from it i cant find there cds anywhere just a scattered mp3 every once in a GREAT while on winmx

Lord_Xian
04-07-2004, 04:39 PM
arnt bands like thursday X-tremo?

MrLucky77713
04-07-2004, 05:10 PM
You can give screaming Emo a ton of names...Xtremo, Screamo..whatever the base genre is Emo

duke9738
04-07-2004, 05:45 PM
thursday are emocore/hardcore

roofee0
04-07-2004, 09:40 PM
shut up you ****ing emo *****!!! i can post whatever want


DEFEDIT

actually, no you can't. posts removed, user banned.

*cough* fag *cough*

m3e6oHocK
04-08-2004, 03:09 PM
seriously, stop! have some fucking respect, we are on here to discuss artists
*waits for many lines of \m/ omg coheed and cambria are so hardcore \m/*

kissthesky
04-13-2004, 07:14 AM
::bows down to the almighty duke:: that emo rant was great. thank you.

duke9738
04-15-2004, 05:46 PM
hey yay that assholes banned, and thanks for all the positive feedback

fishboneul03
04-15-2004, 11:36 PM
what about bright eyes? Didnt rolling stone call him the best songwriter in modern music, and he's emo?

duke9738
04-15-2004, 11:44 PM
id never heard that rolling stone part, and i wudve loved to have bright eyes in this but i dont know anything about him besides his music and id want to do him justice, i'll get to researching as soon as i can, thanks dude

Bassy
04-16-2004, 04:36 AM
good job!!!!

--PUNK--JORO--
04-19-2004, 10:48 AM
can u just explain to me what EMO is .... SIMPLY please.... sorry im not english so it will take time to me to read your article

duke9738
04-19-2004, 10:53 AM
Emo is emotionally charged punk or hardcore

duke9738
04-23-2004, 11:08 PM
and i saw the article where rollingstone calls him that, he deserrves it

j0nmcc
04-25-2004, 08:57 AM
an excellent description :cheers:

onelastday
04-25-2004, 11:02 PM
emo-***** punk

duke9738
04-27-2004, 04:41 PM
Originally posted by onelastday
emo-***** punk

Oh god he's right! how could i forget to mention that

for those that dont want to read the article

emo is p.ussy punk

thanks onelastday

you rock

emrys
04-30-2004, 03:49 PM
http://www.fourfa.com/

emodragracerx
05-01-2004, 03:09 PM
loved the emo article and finally someone beleives me that emo is not just whining about a girl. thanks for somewhat pulling that empty hole of what emo is together

chemicalsolutio
05-09-2004, 09:32 AM
Well thx for the clarification.

duke9738
05-09-2004, 12:48 PM
no prob

jesjes21
05-09-2004, 11:36 PM
i love the article.......


but ive noticed 1 thing about emo that happens all the time (which i have absolutley no problem with, actually, i love it)

1. if youre in an emo band, 96% of youre song's titles have nothing or little to do with the song

2. almost everyone that plays guitar has at least 1 SG

3. and if youre in an emo band, the names of most of the songs you write are more than 3 words long

duke9738
05-09-2004, 11:39 PM
I love song titles that are never sung in the song and are not only longer than 3 words, but often longer than 5, why do you think i listen to emo

MrLucky77713
05-12-2004, 09:34 PM
JesJes (DAMN that's fun to say)...You noticed THREE things... Stupid emokid!!!


I listen to emo because I'm an angsty teenager. And deep down, aren't we ALL?

dougiecrystals
05-12-2004, 09:42 PM
what about pinkerton....? if u dont know what im talking about forget it

duke9738
05-12-2004, 10:20 PM
i consider the theory of weezer being pioneers of emo a misunderstanding, i love weezer, but thier alternative. if you wanna talk about pinkertons influence on the wave of alternative emo bands, yea i guess so, but sunny day real estate did that too, and since they had a longer influence i decided to pick them as the alt-emo band

and no disprection to my rivers coummy

the_distillers7
05-13-2004, 08:13 PM
**** emo

duke9738
05-13-2004, 09:03 PM
**** anti-flag, n00b, their trend punk

emokid101
05-18-2004, 07:32 PM
emo = wicked music

Cadd99
05-18-2004, 07:50 PM
Wow, that was great.

MrLucky77713
05-18-2004, 10:33 PM
Hey man, I like Anti-Flag. It'c catchy, and the guitar stuff is getting a lot better with Terror State. Fuck me. I'm political!

duke9738
05-20-2004, 06:44 PM
lucky u can be political all u want bro im not stopping u i just think anti-flag just copy everyone else

costa
05-23-2004, 08:10 AM
some people would say this guy is right i say those people are probably o n to something

warped girl 75
05-23-2004, 01:49 PM
dude....i am sorry you have no life....that is sad...but good explanation

why do people say emo sucks?

how can you actually tell if you are listening to it...and what are the tell tale signs you like emo...?





what did the cheese say to the mold?

stinky cheesey weesey!

cantrells_posse
05-23-2004, 01:52 PM
emo...... a pethetic excuse for some cry baby jumping on a guitar.

duke9738
05-23-2004, 05:29 PM
warped, i proly have more of a life than you


cantrel,

OMG YOUR SO ORIGINAL!!@!

EMO GUYS ARE BABIES!!! HOLY ****

IVE NEVER HEARD ANYONE SAY THAT BEFORE

your pathetic asswipe, your not original, your not even funny, theres 20 of you fags a day,

complaining about emo being whiny?

do u catch the irony in that chief

cantrells_posse
05-24-2004, 09:03 AM
the funny thing is by crying and havin a brain hemerage over one comment you just booked your self a place in the 'fagtastick' hotel.

wasent trying to be oringinal. just gettin a point across.

cantrells_posse
05-24-2004, 09:53 AM
*waits for on slought of abuse to come from the emo comunity*

jesjes21
05-24-2004, 02:34 PM
hey, i respect cantrells opinion, everyone is entitled to one, and i used the think the same before my little brother bought deja entendu. but cantrell, if youre going to be a dink, just keep it to yourself.

duke9738
05-24-2004, 03:54 PM
cantrell can not like emo i relly dont give a **** but coming in the emo forum just to bash it...omg...so hardcore...i bet your posting from the computers in detention hall...you rebel you

cantrells_posse
05-25-2004, 11:46 AM
lol actualy im posting from my home in merry old england! nah i hav no problem with emo, i hav emo freinds and i dont care what music you like. i like alkaline trio and funeral for a freind but i just find a strange happyness in pissing people off with a single sentence. :)

cantrells_posse
05-25-2004, 11:47 AM
oh and the newest brand new song glory fades is a 'ard song

*Truly Ninja*
05-25-2004, 12:22 PM
people really need to get their heads out of their asses about the mediocre album "Deja Entendu". I own this album and have listened to it many times. 4 out of eleven songs on that record are listenable. 4 OUT OF 11! I believe that brand new's depth shows potential to make great things in the future, but deja simply is not tha great of an album you guys....

duke9738
05-25-2004, 04:06 PM
alrighty than

primusfan
05-26-2004, 02:36 PM
Nice article, sorry to say still don't like the genre. However, I must give credit where credit is due, so good job!:)

duke9738
05-26-2004, 02:37 PM
thanks dude this is exactly what i was hoping the article would do:cheers:

dotheevolution_
05-27-2004, 05:20 PM
Originally posted by cantrells_posse
emo...... a pethetic excuse for some cry baby jumping on a guitar.

Nirvana, AIC, pathetic excuse for some heroin addicts jumping on a mic:rolleyes:

guitarplayer_87
05-29-2004, 04:16 PM
emo is ****.

MrLucky77713
05-29-2004, 05:57 PM
You are so cool. Marry me.

SilenceEv0lves
05-29-2004, 06:26 PM
I love you Mike. <33333333333333333333333333

duke9738
05-29-2004, 07:39 PM
Originally posted by guitarplayer_87
emo is ****.

good thing your hott


<3 u 2 silence

GNRfan
06-01-2004, 12:14 PM
i still despise emo in all its form

duke9738
06-01-2004, 04:15 PM
:daisy:

ErAn
06-02-2004, 08:49 PM
emo rocks... but theres more hardcore stuff out there

Metallikiller
06-02-2004, 09:04 PM
**Screaming Crowds**
ENCORE! ENCORE!!

pmeg568c
06-03-2004, 10:45 AM
Originally posted by duke9738


Emo: (e-mo)adj.
A mocked, maligned, and mostly misunderstood genre of emotionally charged/inspired punk(or hardcore).



i wish it wasnt mocked although i have pretty strong arguements now

thurdayisnow
06-04-2004, 02:25 PM
thanks much for clearing this up.
hopefully everyone will stop their junk.
:cheers:

SilenceEv0lves
06-04-2004, 03:00 PM
Originally posted by thurdayisnow
thanks much for clearing this up.
hopefully everyone will stop their junk.
:cheers:

Prime example of wishful thinking. Da<e>mned people never "stop their junk."

duke9738
06-06-2004, 01:01 PM
everyone who wants a deeper explanation on emo go pick up the new book "Nothing Feels Good"

2Out-Of-Order3
06-07-2004, 06:59 AM
pretty nice! it helped me a lot! now i know wat emo really is! *grooooooooooooooooowLLLL*

2Out-Of-Order3
06-07-2004, 07:03 AM
Originally posted by 2Out-Of-Order3
pretty nice! it helped me a lot! now i know wat emo really is! *grooooooooooooooooowLLLL*
:cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

"When she woke in the morning... Shw knew that her life had passed her by! She called out a warning! Dont ever let life pass you by!"

Emoboy
06-07-2004, 01:55 PM
*sniff*
You made me proud! I love you a little less than emo now.

useddftns512
06-07-2004, 05:09 PM
haha i like it!

NOFX182
06-08-2004, 11:55 AM
Sorry if this has been asked on this thread already (i couldnt be bothered to read the whole 7 pages) Would you say Blink 182's latest album is emo? I were just wondering.

Emoboy
06-08-2004, 11:57 AM
Sure (I don't care or know. I hate Blink!).

sal villanueva
06-08-2004, 05:06 PM
so where would taking back sunday, funeral for a friend and finch be placed. brand new are emo then these must be of similar genres? what about post hardcore stuff, does that feature?

Emoboy
06-08-2004, 05:20 PM
Those bands are emo as well.

duke9738
06-08-2004, 05:45 PM
Originally posted by NOFX182
Sorry if this has been asked on this thread already (i couldnt be bothered to read the whole 7 pages) Would you say Blink 182's latest album is emo? I were just wondering.

no its still pop punk, the lyrics are too juvenille

Emoboy
06-08-2004, 05:47 PM
Doesn't matter. They suck ass.

duke9738
06-08-2004, 05:51 PM
yea, they do, but when they knew wht ther were made for(skate punk, the chesire cat&dude ranch era) they were rad

NOFX182
06-09-2004, 11:38 AM
I used to think what you think duke9738, but I've slowly come round to liking their two latest albums. At first I just thought 'tut, sold out like the rest of 'em' but now i really like it. I can understand about their older albums having juvenile lyrics, but i think their new albums lyrics arent juvenile.

Emoboy
06-09-2004, 11:56 AM
Um'.......juvenile lyrics. Check.........?

NOFX182
06-09-2004, 11:59 AM
As far as I'm concerned emo is a type of music..but also an insult!
All ****ty types of music followed by clich├ęd little kids in black are emo, such as pop punk, post-hardcore, emo et cetera!
N.b, this was not posted by 'NOFX182', but his bitter older brother.
Emo is wack and so are emos

duke9738
06-09-2004, 12:09 PM
how right you are

NOFX182
06-09-2004, 03:20 PM
How right my bro is?

HUH

lol

Hauptb&d
06-11-2004, 12:50 AM
My god, did you take years on years to type that? to sum it up, basically there is screaming behind the chorus and more than half of it is about breakups. I'm not saying it's bad, but that's what it is.

duke9738
06-11-2004, 07:56 AM
Originally posted by Hauptb&d
My god, did you take years on years to type that? to sum it up, basically there is screaming behind the chorus and more than half of it is about breakups. I'm not saying it's bad, but that's what it is.

so, you just encompassed about 30% of all music with that defenition, but uh....good try

Aka55
06-13-2004, 10:35 PM
What the fu<e>ck Duke!?!?!

We all know that Emo was started with the Dashboard UnPlugged set. Yeesh. Kids don't know music these days.:rolleyes:

FatKidsOnMopeds</3
06-14-2004, 09:38 AM
Originally posted by Hauptb&d
My god, did you take years on years to type that? to sum it up, basically there is screaming behind the chorus and more than half of it is about breakups. I'm not saying it's bad, but that's what it is.

uhh youre thinking about hardcore there buddy, wrong genre.

Emoboy
06-14-2004, 12:12 PM
Why does everyone think of breakups when they think emo? Maybe 25-35% (maybe less)of the total emo songs are about breakups. No more than any other genre.:redbite:

FatKidsOnMopeds</3
06-14-2004, 03:27 PM
Originally posted by Emoboy
Why does everyone think of breakups when they think emo? Maybe 25-35% (maybe less)of the total emo songs are about breakups. No more than any other genre.:redbite:

you can thank further seems forever for that dude

guitardude72565
06-14-2004, 09:23 PM
emo is a bunch of losers whinig aboots their girlfriends

duke9738
06-14-2004, 10:37 PM
Originally posted by guitardude72565
emo is a bunch of losers whinig aboots their girlfriends

hey im frank im 41 years old and i refuse to believe that the Beatles arent a band any more and any genre besides classic rock that steals the cover of music magazines must be terminated...erm....we'll finish this when the Three's Company marathon is over...

FatKidsOnMopeds</3
06-15-2004, 09:40 AM
Originally posted by guitardude72565
emo is a bunch of losers whinig aboots their girlfriends

if youre going to make a comment like that, just dont post dude.

duke9738: lol shut up youre just spamming ;)

blinkfan181
06-16-2004, 06:23 PM
emo is pretty cool i like it

ingot_anarchist
06-16-2004, 11:22 PM
pretty much nailed it

punk_rocker578
06-17-2004, 10:05 PM
Extremely well put...

no_name69
06-19-2004, 01:50 AM
i enjoyed reaing this...and it did clear up my question..

good job

PRWNDWIA
06-26-2004, 04:11 PM
thanks now i know :)

brand new rock

PRWNDWIA
06-26-2004, 04:12 PM
Originally posted by guitardude72565
emo is a bunch of losers whinig aboots their girlfriends

yeah well their earning more money than u so shut the fu*k up!!

S.O.T.Y.
06-28-2004, 02:49 PM
Again: Why post in the EMO forum if you don't like EMO music? It makes no sense. Can someone please explain to me why anyone would post in a thread for music they hate?

duke9738
06-28-2004, 02:57 PM
just ignore them, they want attention so ignore them and they'll stop, otherwise theyll be reported for spamming, so no one respond to emo-bashing here please

S.O.T.Y.
06-28-2004, 02:58 PM
Ok, I'll resist the urge to point out how stupid emo-bashers are.(No sarcasm intended)

duke9738
06-28-2004, 04:48 PM
Originally posted by studded
i know its a stupid question but does the word "emo" come from the word "emotion"

for gods sakes, it dosent, did you read the article?

emo=short for emotionally inspired hardcore

duke9738
07-24-2004, 01:29 PM
bumping become the stupid threads are back

warped girl 75
07-24-2004, 02:35 PM
there is certain emo that i occasionally listen to...mainly the kind where i can understand what they are saying

nips
07-24-2004, 03:04 PM
^ok?

MrLucky77713
07-24-2004, 03:14 PM
What? Is the singer too hardcore for you? Or do you not speak english?

10Pixie07
07-24-2004, 03:35 PM
Thank you for clearing that up...I didn't know what that was!

we-are-robots
07-24-2004, 08:03 PM
i dont like the word emo, but if people want to classify music like that, and if thats wat emo is considered, i love it anyway. GO THURSDAY, im just saying the word emo is such a dumb word, a lot of r&b song and rap songs, rock and roll are about lost love and stuff like that. to me its just rock music, we shouldnt be so quick to label someones art like this

switchfoot_nfg
07-25-2004, 05:39 PM
good read....good job

duke9738
08-07-2004, 12:58 AM
Cadds article added:cheers:

Cadd99
08-07-2004, 01:40 AM
Originally posted by we-are-robots
i dont like the word emo, but if people want to classify music like that, and if thats wat emo is considered, i love it anyway. GO THURSDAY, im just saying the word emo is such a dumb word, a lot of r&b song and rap songs, rock and roll are about lost love and stuff like that. to me its just rock music, we shouldnt be so quick to label someones art like this

I agree with you totally man.

duke9738
08-07-2004, 10:57 PM
andrew we'd relly like thiis to be restickied

Set999
08-08-2004, 01:37 AM
Originally posted by duke9738
andrew we'd relly like thiis to be restickied


I definitly agree. It was well thought out, and hopefully would shut some people up.

now if you will excuse me...


*holds emo close*

ill love you forever....

color me misery
08-08-2004, 03:40 AM
Im speechless, Nice Article indeed

duke9738
08-08-2004, 11:55 AM
much thanks man

Cadd99
08-08-2004, 12:47 PM
If an article about "The Starting Line" as BOTM even though they're like 3 years old can get stickied, than this definitely should get stickied again.

duke9738
08-09-2004, 12:45 AM
bump

Cadd99
08-09-2004, 12:50 AM
Yes, it's stickied, I love you Andrew!!!!!

duke9738
08-09-2004, 12:53 AM
^Yes we do

FatKidsOnMopeds</3
08-09-2004, 01:01 AM
shucks :o :p:

ok, try and keep the spam down everyone. i really dont mind having the sticked.

and, you want emo. click the link in my sig. ;)

fake_sk8r182
08-09-2004, 07:42 AM
You see, I love it how everyone who hates emo has NEVER HEARD IT, or at least heard good emo.

So very true......

Mofo Girl
08-14-2004, 03:35 PM
Thanks for that good article. I feel educated now!
I used to be one of the many people who slagged off emo just because i didnt 'get' what it was.
I recently listened to it properly and found that it is more enjoyable than i thought!!
I'm not gona suck up to emo's ass (if emo was a person) as i think a few newer emo bands out there probably try too hard to 'be' emo so exaggerate it...(am i right??) but yeah...thanks

@zzasin
08-15-2004, 03:53 PM
What is emo?

ohdarn323
08-16-2004, 05:35 PM
mostly misunderstood, lol

What music isn't freaking emotional? Emo is the most retarded category ever.

FatKidsOnMopeds</3
08-16-2004, 06:05 PM
Originally posted by ohdarn323
mostly misunderstood, lol

What music isn't freaking emotional? Emo is the most retarded category ever.

emo is more emotional than others i think. that's why everyone always makes fun of emo kids with the whole "stop crying" thing, which i think is retarted. music is music no matter the genre, most of the music i like tends to be sadder...

Emenius Sleepus
08-17-2004, 09:35 PM
exactly. really it always comes down to, listen if you like, don't listen if you don't.

Go Eat Tar
08-18-2004, 01:06 AM
E M O S U C K S ..nuff said :D

eye_kaint_spael
08-19-2004, 03:47 PM
^you're a n00b...

nuff said

mat the skater
08-21-2004, 02:58 PM
hey. i just have to say that emo is just abunch of gay, haha, who ever thinks emo is cool. go jump of a bridge

re49togood
08-21-2004, 09:37 PM
I dont fully understand the whole purpose of naming different categories of music myself. Some categories are so obvious such as rock, country, and rap. But then they divide that up into more and more categories. It seems pointless to me. Ive never known or understood what all these gay categories mean. I just listen to music that people suggest is good, and if i like it then i like it. What im getting at, is that having the "emo" category is pointless because its lines are so vague and i honestly agree with ohdarn323 because what music is not emotional? And i garuntee that there are more emotional songs out there than emo songs and yet they arent labeled emo. Its all music, stop labeling it.

duke9738
08-21-2004, 10:42 PM
Okay people...im gonna try and do this nicely

now to you re49toogood, you didnt even read the article, if you did, than you wudve realized all the **** u said has been addressed and EXPLAINED

so for those too lazy to read the article this is your warning if you post along these lines you will be reported so here it is:

EMO DOES NOT STAND FOR EMOTIONAL SO NO MORE POSTS ABOUT "WHHHHAAA DUDE LIKE ALL MUSIC IS EMOTIONAL"

MrLucky77713
08-22-2004, 12:29 AM
^Exactly. Emo=Emotionally charged hardcore.

So many stupid kids, so many opportunities to go listen to more TBS. We seriously need this article or some other article on emo history/genre description as a column.

re49togood
08-22-2004, 04:48 AM
Duke, I dont mean to bring up any confrontations, but i just want to know what part of my post was addressed and explained. I was just asking a rhetorical question of, why do we categorize music so specifically anyways. This rhetorical question was not answered in the article. And can you please explain yourself better about the whole emo doesnt mean emotional, cause when i read the article, that is what i understood. Emo is short for emotional.

ghost2
08-22-2004, 03:07 PM
jmghmgnm

artem07
08-22-2004, 04:08 PM
dude brand new is chock full of power chords. but they're really good. i love their vocals and jesse's lyrics are incredible.

artem07
08-22-2004, 04:09 PM
haha remind me never to read a thread, not read the last page, THEN post my reply :bonk:

duke9738
08-22-2004, 10:00 PM
Originally posted by re49togood
Emo is short for emotional.


Did you read anything thats been said?....like, at all?

re49togood
08-22-2004, 10:01 PM
DIE EMO KIDS!!!!!!!!!

re49togood
08-22-2004, 10:03 PM
Duke, can you ****ing explain yourself you ****ing emo kid?

re49togood
08-22-2004, 10:30 PM
at http://www.fourfa.com/ , they even say that "This site is intended to be a basic FAQ and primer on emo - short for "emotional." " hmmm........ why cant we say emo is short for emotional when the site that you used a a source for this article even says that it is.... hmm........

duke9738
08-23-2004, 11:36 AM
the only thing write in fourfa is its history summary


the most respected book on the history of emo has the definition i gave right on the cover, "nothing feels good"


and guys he's reported so if you were about to, dont, i got it

artem07
08-23-2004, 09:10 PM
hehe no.

TommyWIg
08-26-2004, 06:42 PM
Originally posted by TakingBakSunday
very nice....clears up gay ****s like travis pease from colfax IA
i live ten minutes from colfax IA.

Bits_Pieces
08-27-2004, 02:56 PM
Thank you for informing me on what emo is. =)

lprobfreak1
08-29-2004, 02:37 PM
Originally posted by re49togood
DIE EMO KIDS!!!!!!!!!

That's your opinion:no: don't say that what if everyone wanted to kill you:mad: not that i want *innocent*

Click You
09-01-2004, 12:26 AM
i think emo sucks, but i like the article. i think that mainstream has infiltrated emo and ruined anything emo had going for it from the mid-90's. also thursday is pretty sweet.

Hazelnut
09-01-2004, 03:25 PM
the article is 2 long im sure its v. gd though but i get bored easily....

jheath513
09-04-2004, 04:19 PM
EMO (my opinion) is music typically done by homo-sexuals that like to whine about nothing and play a horrifically ****ty guitar. Actually not just guitar but the whole ****ing band is ****ty. If you have testicals and don't like dick in your ass than EMO isn't for you, amen.

Aka55
09-04-2004, 04:34 PM
^ Thank god.. I love to have a dick in my ass and not have testicals. Good to know emo is for me :rolleyes:...

.. I hate you.

punk_rocker578
09-06-2004, 07:29 PM
Nice. Prolly the best read I've had on here for a while.

bobthealien85
09-16-2004, 03:51 PM
how many emo kids does it take to screw in a lightbulb??

none they are all to busy crying about how the light bulb broke!

so BWAH!

bass_player15
09-17-2004, 05:10 PM
im so emo i wanna find nemo

but seriosuly thanks for informing me. really opens up so ideas

Vicious Sid
09-17-2004, 10:42 PM
Originally posted by bobthealien85
how many emo kids does it take to screw in a lightbulb??

none they are all to busy crying about how the light bulb broke!

so BWAH!
Quit spamming. You fu<e>ckers already have a thread for this s<e>hit.

bob_kojima
09-22-2004, 10:15 PM
ur so cool man..

maiden explorer
09-23-2004, 03:44 PM
ur gay

ultimeo
09-23-2004, 06:11 PM
Awesome duke... I was in the same boat as you... average kid, rap being popular, and well no one knows anything about "Emo"... at that time I didnt know what "Emo" was... I was toward the rock genre than the hiphop which has been the popular fad and still today. Then bought my a guitar and taught my self, then i started looking for classic rock and such... that's when I'm stumbled upon the word "Emo"... it bugged me for a few weeks not knowing what it was... i did a search and found it from different site such as www.fourfa.com :)... and from that on.. its pretty emo for me... first emo band i heard was dashboard confessional.... right now my current fav is Thrice.. their ****ing awesome.

Renagade
09-26-2004, 05:50 PM
IF YOU WANNA KNOW WHAT EMO IS WELL... BASICALLY ITS ***** ROCK FOR ***** KIDS THAT HAVE JERNALS OR KRY DEMSELF TOO SLEEP OH AND MOST OF THE TIME THERE POSERS.

IN OTHER WORDS ITS PUNK BY PUSSIES

Vicious Sid
09-26-2004, 09:01 PM
^Yeah, before you decide to be a coc<e>kweed, you might wanna pass the fourth grade :rolleyes:.

green_face
09-28-2004, 07:01 PM
whats emo?






JK

MrLucky77713
09-28-2004, 09:45 PM
Someone actually complained about the length of this article? It isn't even two pages.

People are stereotyping emo as fag music, eh? If targeting sensitivity as homosexual isn't an example of insecure sexuality, nothing is.

I fear for the future of the world.

erling
09-29-2004, 05:22 AM
that really changed my views on emo music

DalamarTheDark
10-01-2004, 01:24 AM
"IF YOU WANNA KNOW WHAT EMO IS WELL... BASICALLY ITS ***** ROCK FOR ***** KIDS THAT HAVE JERNALS OR KRY DEMSELF TOO SLEEP OH AND MOST OF THE TIME THERE POSERS.

IN OTHER WORDS ITS PUNK BY PUSSIES"

I don't know where to start. Are you guys so violent because you honestly cannot communicate properly? I think 90% of the people on this site are seriously retarded. This is actually disgusting to view. I would love to gather these people up somewhere and shovel them into ovens to save our gene pool. Here's a little help. "Jernal" = "Journal", "Kry" = "Cry", "Demself" = "Themself" ( I know... that's a tough one), "There" = "They're" (Another tough one... a contraction), and finally, "Its" = "It's" (another contraction that means 'it is'). In conclusion, I hope you die. You are so stupid it sickens me.

erling
10-01-2004, 07:29 AM
not everybody on this site have english as their first language....fool

DalamarTheDark
10-01-2004, 02:40 PM
Well, I certainly hope that is the case. I hope they are just learning the english language. I hope they learned just enough to be able to come onto a forum and use their newly-learned childlike insults in a quasi-sentence, and make themselves look like they have the intelligence of a toddler gargling on mucus. In the off chance that they ARE native to an english-speaking country, however, I honestly hope that they are ashamed of how pitiful and ignorant they are.

P.S. Oh... and to fit in with the "crowd".. DeWd, EmO is for POSSerS and they are FAGZ!

P.S.S. By the way, I am more into metal than I am emo in general, but the "emo fags" sound reasonable while the "metal kids" sound they have sniffed way too much model airplane glue for 3 lifetimes. They are pathetic.

erling
10-02-2004, 11:30 AM
whatever....:rolleyes:

DalamarTheDark
10-02-2004, 01:14 PM
I see... "Whatever"... Though an excellent point of deliberation I must decline to say you have swayed me.

dontknowmyABCs
10-02-2004, 10:03 PM
dude, thats awesome. i used to think that emo peole were "disturbed" but i looked up Brand New & they are awesome!!!

ohdarn323
10-02-2004, 10:51 PM
Originally posted by FatKidsonMopeds
emo is more emotional than others i think. that's why everyone always makes fun of emo kids with the whole "stop crying" thing, which i think is retarted. music is music no matter the genre, most of the music i like tends to be sadder...

Emo isn't any more emotional than any other type of music. Emotion is subjective to the person, and I don't get feel any emotion while listening to emo, but I can bet I feel just as much emotion while listening to music I like as you do when you listen to emo.

I'm just saying the title "emo" is dumb.

Dreek
10-03-2004, 05:37 AM
hmm, it's the same here to :p
only they listen to trance / techno..
damn school-kids :(

thedominoeffect
10-04-2004, 05:00 PM
I hate people who argue for or against any type of music. What right do any of you have to tell other people what music is good and what music isn't. Instead of "Emo is gay!", or "Metal is for retards!", can't we just say, "In my opinion, Emo is my favorite.", or, "Metal is my favorite type of music." Let's all just mature and realize that the whole world doesn't always agree with you.

duke9738
10-04-2004, 11:30 PM
Why are people still going on about how they dont like the term emo when all music is emotional, its not ****ing short for emotional!

EMOTIONALLY CHARGED/INSPIRED HARDCORE

sigh..

ohdarn323
10-05-2004, 07:30 AM
Originally posted by duke9738
Why are people still going on about how they dont like the term emo when all music is emotional, its not ****ing short for emotional!

EMOTIONALLY CHARGED/INSPIRED HARDCORE

sigh..

Then simple "hardcore" isn't emotionally charged? It's not inspired?

:rolleyes:

duke9738
10-05-2004, 07:49 AM
Originally posted by ohdarn323
Then simple "hardcore" isn't emotionally charged? It's not inspired?

:rolleyes:


dude your just looking for an excuse to call out emo

i wudve thot by putting the SLASH that people wud be able to grasp that its one or the other either emotionally charged out inspired BY personal emotion

and yes, simple "hardcore" is not emotionally inspiried because its about politics and such, thats what makes it hardcore...and not...emo...

pmeg568c
10-05-2004, 08:29 AM
Originally posted by green_face
whats emo?






JK


HAHAHAHAHAA.............no

CryingNut
10-11-2004, 12:24 AM
weezer is emo?

heartofgold89
10-11-2004, 09:13 AM
Originally posted by thedominoeffect
I hate people who argue for or against any type of music. What right do any of you have to tell other people what music is good and what music isn't. Instead of "Emo is gay!", or "Metal is for retards!", can't we just say, "In my opinion, Emo is my favorite.", or, "Metal is my favorite type of music." Let's all just mature and realize that the whole world doesn't always agree with you.


wow, bravo!:golfclap: exactly my thoughts, only with much better wording.

jeeba jaba
10-11-2004, 08:59 PM
yeah I like makin up words too.....

civildp1
10-11-2004, 10:47 PM
How could you leave out fugazi

duke9738
10-11-2004, 11:17 PM
Originally posted by civildp1
How could you leave out fugazi

I had a great reason for not including Fugazi but I forgot it, it was something along the lines of like, them not being emo at all

DixieNormass
10-18-2004, 10:34 PM
Hey Duke9738, I admire your knowledge of "Emo" music dude, that was a lesson for me. Keep it coming brother

duke9738
10-24-2004, 01:33 PM
thanks man, no prob

S.O.T.Y.
10-24-2004, 01:46 PM
Originally posted by DixieNormass
Hey Duke9738, I admire your knowledge of "Emo" music dude, that was a lesson for me. Keep it coming brother
coughcough*suckup*coughcough. j/k. I re-read the article ,and it is still impresive. Why was it unstickied for so long awhile back?

duke9738
10-24-2004, 01:52 PM
all the sticked threads got unstickied when this new forum was created and i didnt realize this was missed to be resticked for a while

S.O.T.Y.
10-24-2004, 01:59 PM
Oh, ok. So are you saying you hadn't had time to raise hell yet?

heavy_guitarist
10-24-2004, 03:45 PM
Emo shm-emo.

ohdarn323
10-24-2004, 08:23 PM
Originally posted by duke9738
dude your just looking for an excuse to call out emo

i wudve thot by putting the SLASH that people wud be able to grasp that its one or the other either emotionally charged out inspired BY personal emotion

and yes, simple "hardcore" is not emotionally inspiried because its about politics and such, thats what makes it hardcore...and not...emo...

The damn lyrics don't define the genre.

All I'm saying is the term "emo" is a dumb term.

sex_pistols
10-24-2004, 09:04 PM
Emo boys have ovaries. ^_^

duke9738
10-24-2004, 10:18 PM
Originally posted by ohdarn323
The damn lyrics don't define the genre.



so, the guitars are singing about relationships?

ohdarn323
10-25-2004, 07:36 AM
Originally posted by duke9738
so, the guitars are singing about relationships?

You miss my point. Let's say you have a set of pre-written lyrics. Three different people take these lyrics and write three different songs from three different genres with these same lyrics.

Perhaps one of these three people is a better songwriter, but you cannot say that if the lyrics talk about a relationship and one of the songs is an emo son g that the emo song is better because of that.

Lyrics don't define the genre.

duke9738
10-25-2004, 07:45 AM
they define the genre when the guitars are hardcore

hardcore with non relationship/intrapersonal etc lyrics

is just hardcore


hardcore with relationship/intrapersonal etc lyrics

is techniquelly emo

renato
10-25-2004, 01:10 PM
nice one ! much impressed

Andrewbiles
10-25-2004, 01:25 PM
Originally posted by duke9738
they define the genre when the guitars are hardcore

hardcore with non relationship/intrapersonal etc lyrics

is just hardcore


hardcore with relationship/intrapersonal etc lyrics

is techniquelly emo

That's right, but the problem with emo is that the term has become a lot more widely used in the last five years especially. There's no way to define the genre specifically, as really, it's not a genre, it's a bunch of other genres sub-genres that as a collective would show the spectrum of the term 'emo'.
The lyrics aren't the only thing that make emo music emo. An emo song can be emo without really having an emotional issue raised, if the singer sings about (for example) his telephone, but is putting in a lot of emotion into his singing, and the backing music is reflective of the vocals, you could coin that song as an emo song.

The majority of emo music is in the listeners opinion really I think and whether they want to label it that or not.

duke9738
10-25-2004, 03:48 PM
ah good point, emo was defined not when rites of spring sung about things that were nesacarily different but because there singer accented the lyrics with changing from whispering, screaming, etc, i can compromise with you in that sense ohdarn

ohdarn323
10-25-2004, 05:41 PM
Originally posted by duke9738
they define the genre when the guitars are hardcore

hardcore with non relationship/intrapersonal etc lyrics

is just hardcore


hardcore with relationship/intrapersonal etc lyrics

is techniquelly emo

I thought hardcore was like, the guitars are hardcore and the vocals have a lot of screaming.

I'll phrase it this way, so we'll compromise: in my opinion the lyrics have nothing to do with genre definition.

Originally posted by duke9738
ah good point, emo was defined not when rites of spring sung about things that were nesacarily different but because there singer accented the lyrics with changing from whispering, screaming, etc, i can compromise with you in that sense ohdarn

:cheers:

Butterknife
10-26-2004, 03:23 PM
Originally posted by jheath513
EMO (my opinion) is music typically done by homo-sexuals that like to whine about nothing and play a horrifically ****ty guitar. Actually not just guitar but the whole ****ing band is ****ty. If you have testicals and don't like dick in your ass than EMO isn't for you, amen.

the fact that you referred to fans of emo as being homosexuals shows your ignorance and immaturity, therefore making your opinion completely useless.

Greenfinger182
10-26-2004, 08:53 PM
Musta been a pain to write...

Andrewbiles
10-29-2004, 02:27 PM
Originally posted by jheath513
EMO (my opinion) is music typically done by homo-sexuals that like to whine about nothing and play a horrifically ****ty guitar. Actually not just guitar but the whole ****ing band is ****ty. If you have testicals and don't like dick in your ass than EMO isn't for you, amen.

You nearly got away with this. Comments like this are not appreciated. *Warned*

new mongoose
11-01-2004, 05:42 PM
very cool article. cleared some stuff up for me. i didn't know it but i guess a lot of the bands i'm into are emo bands. good job.:D...and when i close my eyes. feels like i'll never breathe again. until you fill my lungs, i'll keep dying. ---Tripped and Falling - "Want You To Know"

total_immortal1
11-04-2004, 09:11 PM
I heard that Emo doesnt stand for emotional, its actually emotive hardcore or something like that i cant remember..

MrLucky77713
11-04-2004, 09:46 PM
^EMOtionally charged hardcore. It's been said dozens of times.

primusfan
11-08-2004, 05:54 PM
Originally posted by stellar_legs
And what the hell is up with that goddamn name. "Emo?"

:haha

Funny you should say that. When I'd first heard of it, I thought it was some type of poppy-electronic rock mainly because that guy in Devo's name is Emo Phillips.:haha :haha


EDIT: What the fuck? Emo Phillips. I meant Brian Eno, but he's not even in the band. Someone was stoned.:bonk:

LGxRX_27
11-11-2004, 03:00 PM
dat wuz interesting.....

VwwNIRVANAwwV
11-15-2004, 10:38 PM
kinda thinking about it. is nirvana early emo also? almost all of there lyrics are somewhat depressing.
just to name a few

pennyroyal tea
dumb
something in the way
heartshaped box
about a girl
lithium

whats ur opinion?

duke9738
11-15-2004, 11:21 PM
its only so much about the lyrics, but the base is that it has to come from hardcore/punk, nirvana is grundge...i didnt really think they were subtle as far as categorization goes

VwwNIRVANAwwV
11-15-2004, 11:44 PM
ya i guess, i still think in ways they are, but the grunge is still very persent as you stated. if they hadnt had some songs such as territorial pissings and breed it might be different. does emo have to have a certain voice? as in could kurt ever be emo?

duke9738
11-15-2004, 11:50 PM
i guess alot depends on kurts influences, which im pretty sure werent emo, and emo was already out there when Nirvana rolled in, but instead of branching off emo, which would make them somwhat emo, they drew from metal influences and essentially invented a new genre

theirs no vocal requirement to be emo, most sing thru thier nose nowadays, but there are quite a few deep beautiful voices in emo, Nirvana's lyrics could be emo-ish if they were over punk music, and not so mainstream

VwwNIRVANAwwV
11-16-2004, 09:43 AM
gotcha. makes sense:p:

BMBH
11-21-2004, 04:59 PM
good job :golfclap: i really liked it bravo!!

redrumydoolb
11-21-2004, 11:26 PM
great article. very informitive. i love emo because the lyrics are much more complex than and metaphorical than any other punk genre.

allMUSICisGOOD
11-24-2004, 12:07 AM
i love emo and i love clasic rock and i love it all so HAH

thewailer3
11-26-2004, 02:52 AM
im sorry but i cant say that i enjoy emo all that much
i mean, the lyrics and the guitar are pretty good, its just damn those voices are whiny

Pyr0
11-30-2004, 12:44 PM
I think emo has now become a mood rather than a genre- because people class acoustic stuff as emo, rock as emo, punk as emo, hardcore as emo, etc etc.


It just derives from the singing style and lyrics IMO, if someone says "emo" you know roughly what the singing will be like but you don't know whether it will be fast or slow, heavy or soft, etc.

gods_emo_punk
11-30-2004, 02:39 PM
emo isnt a way you look or a type of music you listen to. its a state of mind. or should i say a state of heart since it seems emo kids think more with their hearts instead of their minds. it doesnt matter what you wear or buy. lets not turn the "emo scene" into something to similar to the preppie scene.

NormanR
12-01-2004, 04:12 AM
well, what you wrote here is the History of the word "emo", but when people here say that it has to come from hardcore, i disagree somehow, because the meaning of the word has changed itself..... i don't know what influences those ... i call them "soft emo" bands have...like Badly Drawn Boy, Bright Eyes (yeaaah Folks...thats what HE calls it ;)) but as you see in my own post, the word "EMO" came from hardcore, but then fitted so well to music that had the thing that you had to ADD to hardcore to name it EMO, some bands JUST have this "hardcore + XXX" ... this xxx...without the hardcore....and the name Emo fits THEM even better..... what you guys call EMO often, i call emocore, cause "CORE" for me always describes music that is really agressive and often..not always...not as melodic as it could be....like little parts that i would call "mosh parts" (again, my OWN kind of describing, im not trying to be official) .... so i call Bands like Bright Eyes Emo, i would even call Nirvana a big part emo but not an emo band, i would even say that trip hop groups like LAMB or Portishead, or songs like "we drink the young blood" from Radiohead are "very emo"...with very emo i dont mean "120 % emo" but like 60 % .. so its not fully emo ... i would call Bright Eyes 350 % emo ;) hehehe...and Badly Drawn Boy ... well.... 120 ? ;)
so i call this stuff like this:

Bright eyes and co. - Emo
Thursday - Emo (cause its pretty soft, even if the music gets harder the voice of the singer keeps it all very soft)

The Used - Emocore ( i know you call it differently, it's just my personal way)

Stuff like Atreyu, Heaven shall burn - Hardcore

i think this is pretty nice cause its like "very soft - "normal soft" - not soft at all anymore

well maybe soft is the wrong word....hm..... you could say

emo
"strikes down your soul and you start to cry"

emocore "makes you think of your ex-girlfriend with a sigh"

hardcore
"KILL EM ALL" ;)

well im interested in your guys personal way of categorizing it...i dont mean any arguments for official way of categorizing but just your personal way of thinking and feeling about the words...emo .. emocore..hardcore...thnx ;)

Same Old Sound
12-01-2004, 03:39 PM
*claps*

Lovely article Duke.

init4thefashion
12-01-2004, 06:56 PM
nirvana in no way shaped or affected emo

Danny7
12-01-2004, 07:03 PM
Nirvana infulenced all forms of rock, music and the world.

And I'm not the biggest Nirvana, and in fact, I find them very mediocre.

But just from looking at facts you can see how much of an effect they had on early 90's teenagers and rock music on the whole.

They may not have directly influenced it as such, but they definately had a part to play.

init4thefashion
12-01-2004, 07:23 PM
how?

emo was invented before nirvana, when nirvana came around, emo ws still very punk, very anti mainstream, nirvana were, very mainstream, no emo band lists nirvana as an influence, the emogame hates them, and so do I

NormanR
12-02-2004, 11:04 AM
you guys dont understand me ;) i didnt say nirvana influenced anyone, i just said its kinda "emo" when you take "emo" as what it is often used lately, a kind of way of feeling or thinking, a kind of mood, a kind of character....if you wanna stay music-historical, then it isnt emo in ANY way, your correct...but try to really read what someone else writes, cause i never said that anyway

PS: i don't like nirvana

init4thefashion
12-02-2004, 05:06 PM
they do have emo qualities, a little more than most bands i guess, maybe its just a grunge thing

Vicious Sid
12-02-2004, 09:56 PM
Originally posted by init4thefashion
how?

emo was invented before nirvana, when nirvana came around, emo ws still very punk, very anti mainstream, nirvana were, very mainstream, no emo band lists nirvana as an influence, the emogame hates them, and so do I
From the Deja Entendu lyric booklet:

Listen to: Lifetime, Built to Spill, Hotrod Circuit, Foo Fighters, The Movielife, Coldplay, Elliot Smith, Bruce Springsteen, Orange Island, The Reunion Show, Sigur Ros, Modest Mouse, Finch, Ron Sexsmith, Taking Back Sunday, The Smiths, Mogwai, The Exit, Drawn From Endings, Squeeze, The Fight, U2, Glassjaw, Crime In Stereo, Nirvana, Scraps and Heartattacks, and Hand to Hand Combat

Score one for Landon.

init4thefashion
12-02-2004, 10:19 PM
I dont care thats obviously not lacey's

Vicious Sid
12-02-2004, 10:34 PM
*plugs ears*

Blah blah blah, Wikey's wrong, Wikey's wrong...

If Jesse listens to U2 and the Smiths, it's very possible he listens to Nirvana. Nirvana made emotional music, and Jesse seems the type of guy to be about emotion, not emo. Face it, Mike, not all emo bands draw soley from hardcore.

init4thefashion
12-02-2004, 11:02 PM
I never said they do

they just dont draw from nirvana, or the ones that do, dont influence anyone

Vicious Sid
12-05-2004, 08:22 PM
Look, Mr. Emo Historian, Brand New are influenced by Nirvana, and if I have to look through every interview Jesse ever did, I'm gonna prove it to you.

Slut
12-08-2004, 08:21 PM
Originally posted by init4thefashion
the emogame hates them

god dude. get over emo game. emo game is a PARODY. Get your own ****ing idea of what you like, not just whatever a ****ing online game says you dickface cum slut.

init4thefashion
12-08-2004, 08:32 PM
calm down


and, I wrote an article on what I like, you're actually replying to it right now, heh, small world huh?

Slut
12-08-2004, 08:58 PM
Your 'article' is a complete fourfa.com copy and it was wrong anyway.