Starting a cover band to try to play out regularly, setlist ideas?


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Shecter78787
10-16-2008, 05:47 PM
My guitar teacher revealed to me after hinting about his numerous bands that he plays in a bunch of cover bands. I was kind of turned off by the idea because i really like to play and write original works and play them. But he pointed out that if you want to get paying gigs regularly you can do so in a cover band playing at bars and grills and such. SOOOOO i want to start a legit cover band.

I understand that its not what we want to play but what our audience wants to hear. So any ideas for what an average bar people, like green turtle or something, would want to hear. I'm in High school so i don't know, i would assume 80's and 90's stuff. so let me hear some song ideas please.

Also how long should our setlist be because i heard that sometimes you show up and there like" ya can you play for twice as long as we scheduled" i plan on this being very legit and not just some kids screwing around, very professional.

jakewynnrocks
10-16-2008, 05:53 PM
free bird!!!

IKnowItsWrong
10-16-2008, 05:55 PM
Depends what bar... you can't go country in a metal cafe.. no you really can't

nitromaniac
10-16-2008, 05:57 PM
as an intro play somethin easy like mississippi queen

That-Funny-Guy
10-16-2008, 05:58 PM
just play songs you like.

nitromaniac
10-16-2008, 05:58 PM
did i spell that right
oh and maybe run to the hills as an encore, if your strings can still bear it withiut snappin n the march.

Shecter78787
10-16-2008, 06:20 PM
At a regular bar not like a metal cafe, just an average one. so what songs to play?

Superstrat101
10-16-2008, 07:27 PM
Ultimate bar song: La Grange.

Seriously, ZZ top is the best way to go.

xEpidemicx
10-16-2008, 08:49 PM
Play what you like.
Simple as that. You arn't going to be happy playing a style you don't like, and it wont come out as good.

axemanchris
10-16-2008, 11:26 PM
Crap... none of this is good advice. Sure, play what you like, but make sure it is what the people like first. Out of that, pick what you like.

Most of the old '70's stuff like Mississippi Queen is tired and over done to death. That stuff was tired in the late '80's when I started playing out.... never mind now.

Your average bar-goer is between 19-25. Their formative teen years, then, were mid-'90's to now. Play that. Hell... even stuff like Nirvana is considered classic rock nowadays.

If I was putting together a set list now, (I'm in an all original band, so that's a whole other kettle of fish....) I would include:

-Paralyzer - Finger 11
-Franz Ferdinand
-Arctic Monkeys
-Big Casino - Jimmy Eat World
-White Stripes/Raconteurs
-Alice In Chains
-Metallica (something from Black...)
-Shine or Gel by Collective Soul
-Pearl Jam
-Cold Hard Bitch - Jet
-Boys of Summer - Ataris
-Foo Fighters
-Nirvana
-Offspring
-Green Day
-Blink182
-REM
-Oasis
-Kid Rock (maybe)
-Stone Temple Pilots
-Velvet Revolver

...and then a few classic rock nuggets, and some Canadian stuff just for good measure...(yeah, I know Finger11 is Canadian...)

CT

Shecter78787
10-20-2008, 08:57 PM
thanks man any more suggestions i need them

axemanchris
10-20-2008, 09:55 PM
Thrash Unreal - Against Me
Crazy Bitch - Buckcherry
Lazy eye - Silver Sun Pickups
This Song Was Written by a Committee - Hostage Life
Silverchair
Godsmack - Whatever
Weezer
3 Doors Down - Kryptonite
Puddle of Mud - She Hates Me
Been a While - Staind
Three Days Grace
Killers
My Own Worst Enemy - Lit

Just google top rock songs, hot 100 charts, etc. of whatever year and see what else you find.

CT

axemanchris
10-20-2008, 10:11 PM
And then there are those songs that might reach back a little further that people still really like, or the ones that make people say, "holy crap.... I and a zillion other people totally forgot that song, but I love it!"

Sick of Myself - Matthew Sweet
Video Killed the Radio Star
Flavour of the Weak - American Hi-Fi
Inside Out - Eve 6
Bad Touch - Bloodhound Gang (if you have keys or can do something creative w/ gtr)
Metallica
Papa Roach
This Beat Goes On/Switch into Glide - The Kings (guaranteed dance-floor packer 'round here)
Bush - Come Down
Jenny (867-5309) - Tommy Tutone
Funk 49 - James Gang
Cheap Trick
Talk Dirty to Me - Poison (seriously... even the kids love to play this one!)
Down with the Sickness - Disturbed
Song 2 - Blur
Banditos - Refreshments

CT

Damien_Torrence
10-28-2008, 05:47 PM
Awesome band that most older folks will remember but hardly get covered is The Replacements, check them out

axemanchris
10-28-2008, 10:14 PM
The Replacements make me also think of the Smithereens.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0s4_PKJKbU

Wicked tune!

CT

cheapr2keepr
10-29-2008, 08:47 AM
Most bar/grill venues are a little older than the 19-25 set. In my experience, the younger ones hit the meat markets, and don't have much money to spend anyways. As a result, I see most bar gigs with a 30-40 age range, which means a lot of 80's-90's. Man in the box, Talk Dirty to me/Nothin but a good time, AC/DC, STP, etc.

I've known a couple of bands pulling down $500 a night playing 80's hair metal exclusively. Poison, Ratt, Dokken, Accept, Metallica, Cinderella, Krokus, Just keep it up tempo, and not too dark.

If you keep the girls dancing, the guys will be happy and continue drinking and plying the ladies with drinks, thus making your employer happy as the $$$ add up.

Very sound advice was already given. And yeah, avoid the overdone 70's classics. They were great to listen to, but in a live setting they tend to snooze. And no epic 10 minute guitar solos, which means drop Rocky Mountain Way and Strangelhold off the list!

Retro Rocker
10-29-2008, 09:10 AM
And no epic 10 minute guitar solos, which means drop Rocky Mountain Way and Strangelhold off the list!
But why? Why would you do that to me!?

ehlert99
10-29-2008, 11:14 AM
http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum/showthread.php?t=987995 my post about my singer and set list set up... i give first two sets in there as examples of songs. Alot of hits that go over well... and just keep in mind you may hate the song but your not getting paid for songs you love... thats why you write originals and hope for something more..

axemanchris
10-29-2008, 05:21 PM
Most bar/grill venues are a little older than the 19-25 set. In my experience, the younger ones hit the meat markets, and don't have much money to spend anyways. As a result, I see most bar gigs with a 30-40 age range, which means a lot of 80's-90's. Man in the box, Talk Dirty to me/Nothin but a good time, AC/DC, STP, etc.

Okay... fair enough. But even at that, I'm 38. Most of my peers could really care less to hear Roadhouse Blues or whatever other myriad of overdone to death songs out there. If we're still out consuming live music, it tends to be stuff from 80's onwards, but a lot of newer stuff.

CT

Philbigtime
10-29-2008, 06:44 PM
Most bar/grill venues are a little older than the 19-25 set. In my experience, the younger ones hit the meat markets, and don't have much money to spend anyways. As a result, I see most bar gigs with a 30-40 age range, which means a lot of 80's-90's. Man in the box, Talk Dirty to me/Nothin but a good time, AC/DC, STP, etc.

I've known a couple of bands pulling down $500 a night playing 80's hair metal exclusively. Poison, Ratt, Dokken, Accept, Metallica, Cinderella, Krokus, Just keep it up tempo, and not too dark.

If you keep the girls dancing, the guys will be happy and continue drinking and plying the ladies with drinks, thus making your employer happy as the $$$ add up.

Very sound advice was already given. And yeah, avoid the overdone 70's classics. They were great to listen to, but in a live setting they tend to snooze. And no epic 10 minute guitar solos, which means drop Rocky Mountain Way and Strangelhold off the list!

The thing is, you have to do Stranglehold right. I kick ass, but I cannot pull off that one. I have seen it pulled off, though (by the *&^#$ 16 year old in my brother's band) and, rest assured, it worked.

axemanchris
10-29-2008, 07:12 PM
I dunno.... there are just some songs that, no matter how well they're played, nobody really cares.

CT

Philbigtime
10-29-2008, 10:28 PM
I dunno.... there are just some songs that, no matter how well they're played, nobody really cares.

CT

Nope. You just gotta play them good enough for people to care. Trust me. The reason for them caring may not be that they have heard the song before; the reason for them caring is that you make them care.

axemanchris
10-29-2008, 11:20 PM
That's a pretty tough order for one of those songs (like Roadhouse Blues or Knockin on Heaven's Door or Foxy Lady) that people have heard so many times that, as soon as they start hearing it, they say to themselves... "Aw, not THAT one friggin' AGAIN!!" As soon as they know what song it is, they have a negative attitude and are against you. That's a tough person to turn around.

There is a certain list of songs that, when I hear them, I take as my cue to use the can or step outside for some fresh air and mock the band because they're playing that frigging song... :haha It doesn't matter how well they play it. I'm gone.

CT

cheapr2keepr
10-30-2008, 12:33 AM
That's a pretty tough order for one of those songs (like Roadhouse Blues or Knockin on Heaven's Door or Foxy Lady) that people have heard so many times that, as soon as they start hearing it, they say to themselves... "Aw, not THAT one friggin' AGAIN!!" As soon as they know what song it is, they have a negative attitude and are against you. That's a tough person to turn around.

There is a certain list of songs that, when I hear them, I take as my cue to use the can or step outside for some fresh air and mock the band because they're playing that frigging song... :haha It doesn't matter how well they play it. I'm gone.

CT

Yup, gotta go with AMC on this. The songs may be timeless classics, but ya got to think of it not from the point of view of a musician, but from the viewpoint of the average bar patron who either couldn't tell the difference or could care less about how your version of Stranglehold kicks ass so much more than others.

I'm 39, and grew up listening to the classics and dreaming of one day playing them live. Unfortunately, I also realize that there are a lot of classics that even I as a musician would sooner walk out on.

I think the key is to keep the energy up. Keep girls dancing. Don't get TOO heavy, or else you'll end up with a sausagefest full of angry drunk dudes. And too much extended stoner rock will leave you with that 1 or 2 guys left over who insist on relating to you their last cognitive moment from back in '76 on their way to a Frampton show.

Philbigtime
10-30-2008, 01:06 AM
That's a pretty tough order for one of those songs (like Roadhouse Blues or Knockin on Heaven's Door or Foxy Lady) that people have heard so many times that, as soon as they start hearing it, they say to themselves... "Aw, not THAT one friggin' AGAIN!!" As soon as they know what song it is, they have a negative attitude and are against you. That's a tough person to turn around.

There is a certain list of songs that, when I hear them, I take as my cue to use the can or step outside for some fresh air and mock the band because they're playing that frigging song... :haha It doesn't matter how well they play it. I'm gone.

CT

This I will agree with about 90%, but I submit that ANY song played well and with your own touch WILL capture an audience. Maybe with an extra cool intro intro or something, but you absolutely CAN sucker someone in to listening to a song they have already heard 50,000 times. Now, I'm not suggesting that anyone play Freebird or Stairway with a straight face, but if you can't make girls remove their bras to a kickass version of "What is and What Should Never Be", then perhaps you should start seeking out another profession.

Philbigtime
10-30-2008, 01:07 AM
a-whoops on the double post.

axemanchris
10-30-2008, 07:03 AM
Easier to get them to remove their bras with Paralyzer by Finger Eleven than What is and What should Never Be these days, I would think - even if you only play Paralyzer half-way okay.

CT

cheapr2keepr
10-31-2008, 04:29 AM
Wow. I had to google that song.

Not to sound too old, but since I was born the year that Zep song came out...

With a song that old, are you sure you want the ladies removing their bras? It might be the only thing keeping their funbags from hitting the floor! :D

Just messin' wit ya, Phil!

Personally, I'm more of a sellout guy. That's why I love 80's hair metal so much. The 90's and beyond for the most part were WAY to deep for my preferences. :D

axemanchris
10-31-2008, 05:58 PM
Wow. I had to google that song.

Not to sound too old, but since I was born the year that Zep song came out...

With a song that old, are you sure you want the ladies removing their bras? It might be the only thing keeping their funbags from hitting the floor! :D

Just messin' wit ya, Phil!


I'm about that age too. I LOLed at the funbags comment... :haha

CT

Retro Rocker
10-31-2008, 09:16 PM
Easier to get them to remove their bras with Paralyzer by Finger Eleven than What is and What should Never Be these days, I would think - even if you only play Paralyzer half-way okay.

CT
I've never even heard of Finger Eleven and I was only born 18 years ago :confused:

axemanchris
10-31-2008, 10:01 PM
http://www.fingereleven.com/

http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/esearch/searchResult.jsp?configType=BBCOM_SIMPLEDEFAULT&pubList=Billboard&an=bbcom&action=Submit&kw=&exposeNavigation=true&keyword=finger+eleven&submit.x=0&submit.y=0&submit=Submit&searchType=ARTICLE_SEARCH

Spent 20 weeks on Billboard's Hot 100. Song Paralyzer got to number 3 just this August. They're a young band.

CT

Philbigtime
11-03-2008, 01:19 PM
Wow. I had to google that song.

Not to sound too old, but since I was born the year that Zep song came out...

With a song that old, are you sure you want the ladies removing their bras? It might be the only thing keeping their funbags from hitting the floor! :D

Just messin' wit ya, Phil!

Personally, I'm more of a sellout guy. That's why I love 80's hair metal so much. The 90's and beyond for the most part were WAY to deep for my preferences. :D

Well you have to take the good with the bad. If the 50 years olds and the 20 year olds are all taking off their clothes, you just have to direct your attention to the righ place.

By the way, my bassist's sister-in-law is 40-something and SMOKIN' hot. So it's not all bad.

Chuckleberry
11-03-2008, 09:41 PM
Well here a few of the cover songs my band has played. Unfortunetly my band has only played covers for all the shows we've been at cuz my bassist ALWAYS schedules us for shows that are in like a week so everyone has to hurry to get their shit together and it pisses me off cuz i always want time to do original stuff but yeah that was my mini rant for you. Well here you go in no particular order

killing in the name of-rage against the machine (people love this one even tho i dont :(...)
Guerilla radio-rage against the machine
bulls on parade- rage against the machine
like a stone-audioslave
reptilia-the strokes (people like this one too cuz of guitar hero :/)
smells like teen spirit-nirvana (again people like this one)
my name is jonas-weezer
hashpipe-weezer
i miss you-blink 182
prayer of a refugee-rise against (i hate this one but u might cuz its not my kind of music)
lady in a blue dress-senses fail (same as above)
Too many puppies-primus (same as above)
Make damn sure-taking back sunday (same as above)
Bloody romance-senses fail (same as above)
bleed american-jimmy eat world
Handlebars-flobots (you would have to find a trumpet player)
fight for your right-the beastie boys (people like this one)
Otherside-Red hot chili peppers
holiday in cambodia-the dead kennedys

There were some more but i dont remember for a while. I think we've played all those a few times and we filled up around 2 hours and that should be long enough i think. So that should give you a good time frame too as to how much time 18 songs takes up for a rough estimate

nitromaniac
12-02-2008, 04:56 AM
Save guitar solo's for an Encore, then feel frree to go a little mental! Once you've finished your set it don't really matter so long as you dont fall of the stage.
P.S definately try not to fall it hurts
HAHA am 16 played my first gig at 12 bin plain for 7 years whooppwhoop.
shhh... i know its not that long, i'm gonna shut it now.

ehlert99
12-02-2008, 03:15 PM
I usually guitar solo when we need downtime say drummer drunk too much and cant hold it, or someoen breaks a string and replacing quick, or an audience member is harrassing the singer or another band member about a request. People usually love a wicked guitar solo leading to an insane song like I usually solo over F minor for a bit then the bass player will shout all aboard and we go into crazy train.

each set we do we usually have a wicked song towards the end like for example:

Set one:
Sweet child o mine
set two:
Free bird/or hotel california... depends on place and crowd
set three:
crazy train
Set four:
Enter Sandman.