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Freepower 01-05-2009 12:42 PM

Need halp? - Technique Analysis
 
I often get PM's asking if I'll analyse someone's technique through video or sometimes through audio, so I figure I can just do it here and then people can see through example what common flaws are and how they're corrected. Anyone who wants to offer analysis as well please join in!

Anyway, to make my life easier -
Record about half the sample through a clean tone, and half through a dirty tone.

Record yourself playing both slow and fast - many people practice one way and play another, try and show both how you play and how you practice.

It would be best if you can upload your vid to youtube rather than a temporary filehost - it would be great if people can look at the vids and see where the flaws are, and how to fix them, and then apply that to their own technique. :)

Finally, I claim the right to close this thread at any time if I get overwhelmed or bored.
:p:

Colohue 01-05-2009 02:03 PM

Might want to offer 'help' rather than 'halp.' :p:

When the girlfriend next turns up with her camera I'll play something to show you. Until then I reserve the right to edit.

Freepower 01-05-2009 02:04 PM

Everyone prefers halp, you silly moo. :p:

AmIEvil? 01-05-2009 08:53 PM

thats a great idea! problem is i dont have a camera at the moment :D And i plan on posting a video of myself playing once i get my hands on a videocam. I hope people realize this thread i think people could really learn by looking at others mistakes

Colohue 01-05-2009 08:57 PM

Personally I'm not sure what to play. I'm not at a tremendous stage of development right now, but I'll give it a shot in case there's any bad habits I haven't spotted. I know learning violin made me curve my fretting hand a little wrong.

Freepower 01-05-2009 09:00 PM

Play some music, your own or a cover. If you want help with a specific technical problem, try to show a few licks which highlight your difficulties. :)

Dr. Faustus 01-05-2009 10:30 PM

Is there any particular skill level requirement for asking you to find the flaws in our playing?

Freepower 01-05-2009 10:38 PM

Absolutely not. :) Most of the kids I teach in real life are total beginners, if you can play at all that's more than I'm used to. :p:

The Picker 01-05-2009 11:24 PM

I'll try to record something in the next few weeks or so. I've just started trying to learn some metal guitar or just more advanced stuff in general (string skipping, tremolo picking, tapping, etc.) within the last few weeks. I'm not too good, so I can't play fast, but I would like to get started on the right foot technique wise.

The reason I won't have videos soon is because I have exams next week, so I'll be studying quite a bit (this week and next). But I get a four day weekend after that, so I'll try my best to get them up then.

:cheers:

krazydrummer 01-05-2009 11:56 PM

sounds good. ill record right now!

krazydrummer 01-06-2009 12:29 AM



there it is fresh off the camera



EDIT: ah damn!!! well it seems it got darker or something when i uploaded it. eh... maybe next time ill grab a flashlight.

The.new.guy 01-06-2009 12:45 AM

I'll see if I can borrow a friends camera or something. My technique might need some serious looking at, or it might not. I was never taught lead face-to-face so it might look terrible. :p:

ramm_ty 01-06-2009 01:24 AM

I finally got a cam...I think I'll upload something tomorrow.

Freepower 01-06-2009 09:03 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by krazydrummer


there it is fresh off the camera



EDIT: ah damn!!! well it seems it got darker or something when i uploaded it. eh... maybe next time ill grab a flashlight.


I think you'll need to, yeah. :p:

What I can hear is mostly a need to improve muting and not rush things!

You sound pretty okay slow (muting aside) - but you just aren't ready to up the tempo yet. Take a good listen to that and see if you can hear the open string noises yourself, because you're going to need to eradicate them. :)

juangar1992 01-06-2009 05:07 PM

i'll record something when i get a cam, will edit later!

telemetal 01-06-2009 06:18 PM



Probably the most unskilled player here, but anyway...
Please excuse the **** playing i was friggin tired
Just a general analysis if im doing anything wrong would be good

telEDIT:also with the very last lick i play, how the hell can i speed it up? i've played with metronomes, played it slow, sped it up, then tried faster and failed again, i just cant get it up to speed :(

public property 01-06-2009 07:10 PM

OK tel, first thing, you must reduce your finger movements on your left hand, they are flying all over the place and increasing your workload alot. The simple 1 2 3 4 patterns help alot with this, so practice those while keeping absolutely clean and trying to move each finger without moving any others.
Second, your legato seems weak, both your hammer ons and pull offs could use some work, when you do legato make sure that you hit the sweet spot of the fret so the note rings out clearly then when you pull off trying and pull into the space between the two strings and towards the fret board.
Your muting could use work too, when you tap make sure the rest of the strings are covered by your hand/arm/face/whatever and when you pick move your arm so the flat part at the side of your hand, next to your pinky is lightly touching the strings.

All this is covered in the stickies so go there for any further information, or wait for a response from someone who knows more than me (everyone here)

telemetal 01-06-2009 09:22 PM

alright then, and another question, im trying to stop anchoring, so does that mean my arm has to be floating? as in i cant place for forearm on the edge of the guitar?

ramm_ty 01-06-2009 10:58 PM

Oh yeaaaaaa.



I don't have an amp ATM...so I was forced to line directly in.

Was probably a bad move, cause I sound like dick. Open string noise :(

I uploaded another one too, on that same channel. Any crits would be greatly appreciated.

edit: The other one

edg 01-06-2009 11:33 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by ramm_ty
Oh yeaaaaaa.




The main things I noticed:

1) Your pinky is curled up in nice tight knot most of the time. Which is probably why:
2) Your pinky is extremely under-utilized.
3) Your ring finger and pinky (when you use it) almost always land flat on the strings.
That will make it difficult on accuracy and ease of doing any number of things.
4) All those symptoms add up to what looks like too much tension, using more pressure
than you need to fret. While you may get by with a number of things like this, doing
other things will be difficult.


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