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kingsnake76 09-12-2012 09:15 AM

Looking to buy first stack...Need help
 
Okay, i have a price range of 500$ max.
Im playing through Emg 81/85's.
Im looking for a nice deep metalcore sound, Influences include.
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Asking alexandria
A skylit drive
Bring me the horizion
Divine heresy
A day to remember
alensana
demon hunter
five finger deathpunch
SUICIDE SILENCEE<--Big influence!
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I'm looking for that deep metalcore sound, that can still squeal and pinch harmonic like crazy.
I was looking at the Randall Rx120rh with the Rx412 cab, but im still researching. any and all advice or opinion are VERY welcome.

Eppicurt 09-12-2012 09:20 AM

Peavey 112 combo.

You won't find a good head/cab setup for that price range and your style.

Ian_the_fox 09-12-2012 09:42 AM

Grow up, you don't need a damn stack. I bet you don't even know the point of having a stack; I'm assuming you just want something to show off to your pre-pubescent friends.

Get a used 5150/6505 212 combo; you'll both look and sound like a grown-up. ;)

dementiacaptain 09-12-2012 09:44 AM

Try to find a used Peavey 6505 or 5150 212 combo. Failing that, the 112 is pretty good too, a little thinner sounding, but still pretty sweet. Most of those bands either currently use or have used the Peavey, it is pretty ideal for that type of music, tight, distorted as anything, lots of mids.

EDIT: Ian, come on dude, you rip the TS a new asshole every single thread on you first post, at least wait until all your assumptions are confirmed to start being a dick man.

Eppicurt 09-12-2012 09:47 AM

I agree. It's not even funny.

Volcz 09-12-2012 09:50 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ian_the_fox
Grow up, you don't need a damn stack. I bet you don't even know the point of having a stack; I'm assuming you just want something to show off to your pre-pubescent friends.



LaidBack 09-12-2012 10:00 AM

Also, don't you have a stack, Ian?

Ian_the_fox 09-12-2012 10:05 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by dementiacaptain
EDIT: Ian, come on dude, you rip the TS a new asshole every single thread on you first post, at least wait until all your assumptions are confirmed to start being a dick man.
Kid who plays the most generic metalcore and is looking at SS half stacks with only $500 to spend.

I can GUARANTEE he doesn't need a 4x12 for whatever he's doing, and wants a stack solely for the reason I mentioned.

Quote:
Originally Posted by LaidBack
Also, don't you have a stack, Ian?
Indeed. And I'll agree stacks have their place on larger stages, but the chances of the TS needing one are VERY slim.


Do you really think he's playing on large, wide stages with a powerful drummer and needs that high amount of projection? I strongly doubt it.

Eppicurt 09-12-2012 10:06 AM

And that justifies being a dick?

LaidBack 09-12-2012 10:12 AM

Do you play on larger stages, Ian?

Ian_the_fox 09-12-2012 10:16 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by LaidBack
Do you play on larger stages, Ian?
When I am gigging (been in 3 failure bands since my last gig :( ), everything I play is either outdoors, in an armory building, or in a theater (haven't done that yet). So yes, I have use for the projection.

Read the TS's first post again: do you really think that's what he's after?


And I still gave a suggestion to check out a used 5150 212 which is arguably the best choice for his budget. So it's not like my post was a complete waste of server space.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Eppicurt
And that justifies being a dick?
It certainly kills the "I need a halfstack" attitude a lot quicker. ;)

311ZOSOVHJH 09-12-2012 10:19 AM

:lurk:




oh, and Peavey Vypyr 60. Br00talz for $300 used/$500 new. Shakes walls and shit loud.

LaidBack 09-12-2012 10:21 AM

Still, you came off like a douche, man. Wait until the TS presents us with more information before you go off on what he does and doesn't need. Does it say anywhere in his OP that he does or doesn't gig? No. You're jumping to conclusions man. Instead of assuming he's a 13 year old nitwit that wants to impress his friends, just say, "Hey there buddy, hang on, ask yourself, 'Do I really need this?'"

Pretty simple if you ask me.

dementiacaptain 09-12-2012 10:23 AM

No, it doesn't. It really just turns people off from the forum. I remember when I first started I rarely posted because I knew that my lack of knowledge and understanding of gear would just get me flamed and was sure to provide no real results. Being a dick achieves one thing man, pissing people off.

You have some decent advice normally, but when it is laced with that prickish attitude, it is pretty much useless. All I'm saying, the TS did nothing other than ask a question. He didn't act like a smart ass or a prick, he doesn't deserve all that dude.

311ZOSOVHJH 09-12-2012 10:27 AM

I remember in 2008 I did not know the difference between a tube amp and solid state amp. Honestly, to me....tubes seemed like old technology and solid state sounded so much more modern and 'solid' :haha

I am not 13 either :p:

Additionally, I had a poor assumption that combos were for blues and country players and I wanted br00talz so a half stack was only logical. Plus Randall amps are bad ass right?

Therefore, I don't think the TS line of thought is all that off base.

That said, it is very fashionable on UG to call out OP's that are asking about SS Halfstacks with a low budget :shrug:

dementiacaptain 09-12-2012 10:31 AM

Ian, from what I understand, your Dad plays as well. Maybe you have an advantage over some of us here in that you might have already known a bit before you got on to the forums, but a lot of us did our learning here. I still say personal experience is best, but I have learned some firm guidelines from this forum. TS obviously has little knowledge of gear yet, so let's be good-natured about this and just explain.

667 09-12-2012 10:32 AM

I'd much rather have a 5150/6505 half-stack than a the 2x12 combo - but I gig, and those combos are tanks and a real bitch to move (hit the gym comments will be BS because I'm jacked and strong as shit). I ended up converting my 5150 212 into a head because it was such a pain to lug. If I were considering a combo... it would be a 1x12, and maybe a cab later. If you are set on a half-stack, don't waste $500 on something that is going to suck. Save up more $$$ for a decent rig.
On that note... I do have a 5150 combo converted to a head for sale.

losing battle 09-12-2012 10:35 AM

The randal rg3 series wasn't bad but in order to achieve your genic core sound used 6505/5150 all the way.

Perverockstar69 09-12-2012 12:40 PM

Ian scared TS being a dick, as most times.

AJScott 09-12-2012 01:33 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ian_the_fox
Grow up, you don't need a damn stack. I bet you don't even know the point of having a stack; I'm assuming you just want something to show off to your pre-pubescent friends.

Get a used 5150/6505 212 combo; you'll both look and sound like a grown-up. ;)



Calm down douche.

The man wants a stack, let him have a stack.


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