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Omni-Virus 10-15-2012 09:51 AM

Want To Mod My Raven RG60 1x12''
 
Everyone on the forum keeps telling me to replace my amp. I'm not going to do so. It may not be the best amp in the world, but I deem it as acceptable, so instead of replacing it, I'd like to know if anyone has any ideas on how I could mod it.

It's a Raven RG60 1x12''

To anyone that wishes to post here, actually answer the question.

sashki 10-15-2012 10:24 AM

What specifically are you trying to achieve by modding your amplifier?

With all due respect, this looks more like an act of defiance against the popular opinion rather than an attempt to solve problems through modding. If you like it, it doesn't matter what anyone else thinks.

Moose_Guitarist 10-15-2012 11:38 AM

People keep telling you to replace the amp because modding it will do very little to make the amp sound any better. I know last night you were asking about putting a new speaker in it. Spending money on a new speaker for your amp is like putting a brand new interior and paint job on a car that does not run.
Honestly, I am with Sashki in that it seems like you are now just wanting to mod it to go against what people have suggested. Its gona waste and cost you a lot of money in the end.

end_citizen 10-15-2012 11:55 AM

You've got a couple problems with this endeavor. First, Raven isn't fond of giving out their schematics. They don't really expect their amps to go in to a repair shop since they are so cheap and most techs wouldn't touch them.

Second, most amps in this price range use surface mount components. This makes it very hard to work on. I can't confirm this second one because I haven't had a Raven come into my shop, and Google isn't giving me any relevant information.

Finally, there is the problem that you will inevitably outgrow the mods. It may sound better than it does right now, but you'll quickly find that you're (pardon the expression) polishing a turd.

R45VT 10-15-2012 12:06 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Omni-Virus
Everyone on the forum keeps telling me to replace my amp. I'm not going to do so. It may not be the best amp in the world, but I deem it as acceptable, so instead of replacing it, I'd like to know if anyone has any ideas on how I could mod it.

It's a Raven RG60 1x12''

To anyone that wishes to post here, actually answer the question.


Save your money. I am not trying to steer you in the wrong direction. Leave the speaker alone.

One thing you could do to help your situation might be to buy a PODhd and run it through the fx loop as a preamp. You'd be using the raven for a power amp at that point. It would be like have 12 new amps. (Does it have an FX loop?)

Seriously don't invest any money in your amp. As others have said you really will outgrow it. Glad you like the sound right now.


To upgrade your practice amp- you'd be looking at upgrading the components. Capacitors, resistors being the biggest. You really would just be replacing them with tighter values unless you could get a schematic and have someone suggest some values to change the tone.

Big thing is that you have not said what you are after in your tone. You just want to change it... doesn't help at all. Then you say you can't even change a speaker in your other thread......

Save your money.

Kevin Saale 10-15-2012 01:28 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Omni-Virus
Everyone on the forum keeps telling me to replace my amp. I'm not going to do so. It may not be the best amp in the world, but I deem it as acceptable, so instead of replacing it, I'd like to know if anyone has any ideas on how I could mod it.

It's a Raven RG60 1x12''

To anyone that wishes to post here, actually answer the question.


If its acceptable why would you want to mod it?

Omni-Virus 10-15-2012 01:42 PM

It does good with sound but overall there's slight changes I want to make with my tone. More smooth punch and clarity mainly (not too much more clarity, but a bit more would be nice). I like the amp's equalizer and preamp so I figured the speaker's response and range would be the next best thing. I heard that one guy replaced his speaker with greenbacks or vintage 30s, I forget which, but then he said it sounded much better. I'm into warm sounds like jazz, blues, fusion, funk, shred/instrumental and heavy metal/neo-classical/nu-metal. I heard the celestion gt12 75 would be around what I'm looking for tone-wise as far as speakers go, and I heard a good speaker really can make a good difference in tone. I originally wanted to change pickups, but realized that my input isn't the problem but the output.

Darkdevil725 10-15-2012 01:52 PM

Use it as a amp head and get yourself a good cabinet. I am going to be doing this with a Fender Frontman 15 when I get one, just waiting for one to pop up on CL near me for $20 - $30.

Kevin Saale 10-15-2012 02:31 PM

Its a waste I say still, but you don't seem to think our experience counts for anything :shrug: Have fun. The money you're going to spend on a speaker could go towards a proper amp.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkdevil725
Use it as a amp head and get yourself a good cabinet. I am going to be doing this with a Fender Frontman 15 when I get one, just waiting for one to pop up on CL near me for $20 - $30.


I... I don't even know what to say to this.

Darkdevil725 10-15-2012 02:34 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kevin Saale


I... I don't even know what to say to this.



:haha:

If you want to know why, its because I can.

Kevin Saale 10-15-2012 02:36 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkdevil725
:haha:

If you want to know why, its because I can.


Ok, I was hoping there wasn't some master plan here or something :haha:

tubetime86 10-15-2012 02:49 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Omni-Virus
Everyone on the forum keeps telling me to replace my amp. I'm not going to do so. It may not be the best amp in the world, but I deem it as acceptable, so instead of replacing it, I'd like to know if anyone has any ideas on how I could mod it.

It's a Raven RG60 1x12''

To anyone that wishes to post here, actually answer the question.

So wait...

Your amp is:
A. Acceptable
B. In need of modding

Our opinions are:
A. Wrong
B. Needed

You only get to pick one of each... :confused:

NotTheMessiah30 10-15-2012 03:35 PM

Well... you could replace all the caps with higher quality ones in attempts to improve clarity, and then maybe lower the input impedance for more gain if that's something you fancy.
But in all honesty if you're not entirely happy with the tone of your amp and it's not considered very good in general by most (I don't have experience of your amp) then I wouldn't waste my time. As much as you don't want to hear it, you'd be better off saving up and getting a better amp. Then you can mod the **** out of your old one into firewood or something.

ECistheBest 10-15-2012 04:17 PM

there are no mods available for that amp.

Omni-Virus 10-15-2012 04:49 PM

Someone recommend me a 1x12" combo amp that has 2 channels. Clean channel must do warm jazz tones. Drive channel must do chunky, punchy, smooth, and warm metal. Make it not break the bank. Provide videos or sound clips. Keep in mind I'm using a basswood guitar with tone zone in the bridge and regular norton in the neck. If you can't do this then recommend the next best thing, being either a mod to my amp or a new cab or a new speaker or new pickups.

Omni-Virus 10-15-2012 04:50 PM

And I know someone here is gonna be a tube purist so I'd prefer if you recommend me a tube amp.

NotTheMessiah30 10-15-2012 05:06 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Omni-Virus
Someone recommend me a 1x12" combo amp that has 2 channels. Clean channel must do warm jazz tones. Drive channel must do chunky, punchy, smooth, and warm metal. Make it not break the bank. Provide videos or sound clips. Keep in mind I'm using a basswood guitar with tone zone in the bridge and regular norton in the neck. If you can't do this then recommend the next best thing, being either a mod to my amp or a new cab or a new speaker or new pickups.


I'm glad I don't work in a guitar store, especailly one near you haha.
Not being funny but it seems like there'd be a fair bit of research involved in that, and why should we be doing that on your behalf?

Although from all that I would probably just go ahead and say get a modelling amp of some kind since you have quite a specific yet varied range of tones you're after. I hear good things about the Peavey Vypyr, so maybe go give one a try.

end_citizen 10-15-2012 05:12 PM

I'll second the Peavey Vyper as a step up from the Raven at a low cost. That being said, I'm pretty out of the loop on what's currently in production. Perhaps you should ask that particular question in GG&A.

Omni-Virus 10-15-2012 05:48 PM

No modelling please.

NotTheMessiah30 10-15-2012 06:23 PM

I'm definitely glad I don't work in a guitar store near you!


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