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Noreee 10-17-2012 09:05 PM

Unique Overdrive Boost?
 
Hello! I am a metal/post-hardcore/whatever-core player
(I PLAY MANY TYPES OF MUSIC BUT PEOPLE TEND TO SAY CORE AFTER HALF OF WHAT I LIKE). You guys get the point.

ANYWAY

I am currently looking for an overdrive pedal to boost my distortion ( I will be playing out of a Blackstar Ht-100 soon) and i wanted to try to get a more unique tone out of it. I see that many people are using TS9s and 808s to boost their tones, but i wanted to try something a little different. Like maybe a Turbo Tube screamer? Or a Maxon TBO-9? (Tube overdrive pedal)

Has anyone used one of these as a boost for metal guitars? Any opinions or suggestions? Please let me know! :)

bassmastamitch 10-17-2012 09:22 PM

What do you want different from a traditional OD pedal? What do you mean by unique?

greeny23 10-17-2012 09:23 PM

TS pedals are used for a reason.

Noreee 10-17-2012 09:28 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by bassmastamitch
What do you want different from a traditional OD pedal? What do you mean by unique?




I mean unique as in just a different type of boost. The same reason some people prefer a TS9 over an 808, for the sound. I guess i just want to try something that's just out there and will give my sound a bit of a different flavor from a TS9 or 808.

bassmastamitch 10-17-2012 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Noreee
The same reason some people prefer a TS9 over an 808, for the sound.

You know that there is little to absolutely no difference in sound between the two, right? I forgot the exact technicalities of it, but it's really indistinguishable.

What DON'T you like about normal Tube Screamers? Other than just being unique, what other reasons are there.

Eppicurt 10-17-2012 09:42 PM

Do you not like the TS9? Or do you just want to be different.

Either way no one will really care. Go with what you like the sound of.

Noreee 10-17-2012 09:45 PM

There's nothing in particular that i don't like. I just wanted to explore some new gear and see if i can find something a little different. I love to experiment and try weird combinations, so i wanted to see if i can try something a little out of the norm.

Eppicurt 10-17-2012 09:48 PM

Well, without any examples of what sounds you want to try and explore, we can't really suggest you anything. I mean, there are sooooo many tubescreamer variants it's not funny and it's senseless listing them all here.

I mean, there's not going to be drastic differences if it's just a boost.

&baconstrips 10-17-2012 09:52 PM

I don't play anything that anybody would the suffix "core" to, but I do really really like my fairfield barbershop OD. It's really transparent, essentially just giving you more of the drive you already have, and incredibly dynamic. The sag knob goes from a pretty crisp high-headroom OD, to a harmonic boost, to a slightly raw/light fuzz tone when its all the way down. It probably isn't what you want, but you said you're just looking for interesting options. http://www.fairfieldcircuitry.com/B.html

bassmastamitch 10-17-2012 09:52 PM

The HT100 really isn't really considered "the norm" for metal/core, like a Mesa Recto or Peavey 5150/6505, so you're already unique as is. Try a a bunch of stuff out is all I can say.

Blktiger0 10-17-2012 10:04 PM

Well, why don't you try one of Blackstar's tube pedals as a boost? You would think it would work well with your amp and be transparent, plus it's a Tube overdrive pedal as compared to the Tubescreamer-type stuff that lacks anything tube. I would personally just go to your local shop, take your guitar and your amp (unless they have the amp there with the cabinet you use, provided you haven't done a tube swap or anything, then just use the one there) and try every OD they have there and take home which one you like the most.

bassmastamitch 10-17-2012 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Blktiger0
plus it's a Tube overdrive pedal as compared to the Tubescreamer-type stuff that lacks anything tube.

That's not the point of a Tube Screamer. Tube Screamers are meant to be placed in front of tube amps in order to push them into higher distortion. Not to emulate a tube amp's distortion.

I think tubes in pedals are all fads, anyway. My VOX Tonelab EX probably sounds less tube-like than a Line 6 POD HD, which is solid-state.

mink753 10-17-2012 10:12 PM

Rocktron Austin Gold Overdrive. My favorite overdrive pedal, until I broke it.

Blktiger0 10-17-2012 10:14 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by bassmastamitch
That's not the point of a Tube Screamer. Tube Screamers are meant to be placed in front of tube amps in order to push them into higher distortion. Not to emulate a tube amp's distortion.

I think tubes in pedals are all fads, anyway. My VOX Tonelab EX probably sounds less tube-like than a Line 6 POD HD, which is solid-state.


Like I said, I wasn't sure that it would work the same, and I've always thought the same thing about the "tube" pedals. However, if OP wants unconventional, this would be unconventional.

I would still advise him to take his rig to a local shop and try everything. He might find there's a reason behind the TS-9 use, and he might find that he dislikes that reason and prefers a different pedal or no boost at all. :shrug:

Noreee 10-17-2012 10:19 PM

Personally i would prefer an overdrive that would be less transparent i guess because i'd love to hear a change in my tone. But either way i'll be replacing my Blackstar Ht-100 with a Randall Satan when it's released. But anyway, thanks for the help everyone.

OliOsbourne 10-17-2012 10:21 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by bassmastamitch
That's not the point of a Tube Screamer. Tube Screamers are meant to be placed in front of tube amps in order to push them into higher distortion. Not to emulate a tube amp's distortion.

I'm pretty sure that the Tube Screamer was originally intended to emulate a tube amp, but people found that tit was also very good at pushing the distortion.

mmolteratx 10-17-2012 10:39 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by bassmastamitch
That's not the point of a Tube Screamer. Tube Screamers are meant to be placed in front of tube amps in order to push them into higher distortion. Not to emulate a tube amp's distortion.


Why is this myth still floating around? The Tubescreamer was designed as a standalone distortion inducing device and plenty of people use it exactly as such.

mink753 10-17-2012 10:40 PM

Austin Gold has a pre-bass knob, it is basically a bass boost/cut, which I have only seen on that pedal.

Blktiger0 10-17-2012 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by mmolteratx
Why is this myth still floating around? The Tubescreamer was designed as a standalone distortion inducing device and plenty of people use it exactly as such.


My guess is because so many people use them as boosts. Couple this common use in Modern Music with the name "Tube Screamer" and people are going to think "oh, it's to make my TUBE amp SCREAM...that's clever naming".

Culler Amps 10-17-2012 11:08 PM

If you want a hard hitting boost, and something unique, look for an SHO clone on E-bay.

The cost of the real deal is ridiculous, but a few users on the bay are building clones, which sell for a fraction of the ZVEX model.


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