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Pregowski92 10-28-2012 07:10 PM

good guitar. refuses to stay in tune. help.
 
Hi guys, i've got a hofner verythin standard CT at the moment. I can't give this guitar enough praise, feels great, sounds great, really great guitar. It just won't stay in tune.

There isn't really a specific string, all the strings fall out of tune at a seemingly similar rate. It's playable, just have to tune up, every sort of 10 mins or so. The guitar falls slowly downwards, flatly out of tune. I've changed the strings, and they're fitted quite neatly around the tuning pegs, with a decent amount of slack, i've put graphite in the nut... but sadly that's as far as my knowledge extends to. I know it could be the tuners or the nut, but i'm a student with very little funds and local guitar techs around me charge a small fortune. I've had really cheap epiphone guitars for less than 100 that've stayed in tune a lot better than this. But like i said, i really like this guitar, and i'm not looking to get rid of it in a hurry.

I'm hoping someone else can maybe shed some light on it the problem and help give me a couple solutions.

Thanks for reading, hope you can help!:)

Lavatain 10-28-2012 07:39 PM

It's either that you're not stretching your strings properly when restringing, or if you are, that you need new tuning machine heads.

T00DEEPBLUE 10-28-2012 07:54 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lavatain
It's either that you're not stretching your strings properly when restringing, or if you are, that you need new tuning machine heads.

Very unlikely. What is a lot more likely is that either the strings aren't stretched enough or the strings are catching in the nut.

Lavatain 10-28-2012 08:09 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by T00DEEPBLUE
Very unlikely. What is a lot more likely is that either the strings aren't stretched enough or the strings are catching in the nut.

Unlikely yeah, but I've seen it happen. He mentioned in the post that he's tried using graphite in the nut, so I eliminated the possibility of his nut being the problem.

Offworld92 10-28-2012 08:12 PM


W4RP1G 10-28-2012 09:01 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lavatain
Unlikely yeah, but I've seen it happen. He mentioned in the post that he's tried using graphite in the nut, so I eliminated the possibility of his nut being the problem.

It's pretty likely when using cheap chinese tuners, but his guitar has Schallers. They might be bad(no company is perfect), but he really needs to exhaust other avenues before changing them out.

Robbgnarly 10-28-2012 09:37 PM

I agree it is very unlikely that your schallers are bad.

TS what gauge of strings are you using?

Pregowski92 10-29-2012 05:05 AM

I've got d'addario 10's on it just now, and no, they're not stringed like the above diagram, that may be the problem... but they aren't all over the place either, they're fairly neatly wrapped

Tempoe 10-29-2012 05:10 AM

They should wrap from the hole down, at least 4 complete wraps with NO OVERLAPS! The diagram is not necessarily a very good idea IMO.

EDIT "fairly neatly" is probably the problem

mattrusso 10-29-2012 11:09 AM

Does your guitar have a Bigsby system? I know some of the Verythins do. If it does, it could be partially responsible. The only way to make that better would be to use it a lot (or just play around with it a lot). As with any tremolo system, if you never touch it, your tuning stability will be awful.

57Goldtop 10-29-2012 11:58 AM

Do your tuners move very easily? If so they could be too loose and it might contribute to your problem. Try tightening them by turning the screw at the head of the tuner. You don't want it so tight that you can't turn them, but you do want a little bit of resistance there.

Gargoyle2500 10-29-2012 12:47 PM

Is the neck a bolt-on and do you solder the wraps near the ball ends of your unwound strings? (That's known as "Tinning" The strings.) You should do that to all your unwound strings; It extends their life a lot.

Pregowski92 10-29-2012 01:16 PM

No bigsby, the neck's not bolt on, and i don't tin the strings. Also, the tuners don't move notably easy, they're fairly snug...


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