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omidmash 11-03-2012 07:04 PM

Pod or amp?
 
Hey people,

I have a budget of 500 euro and since I moved to apartment it's kinda shitty that i cant play that loud. Right now I sold my Diezel and am playing through a Boss GT10 4 cabled into a Fender Mustang III. The result is just bearable, but I need a better sound to start recording again.

What would you guys choose for:
Progressive: Dream Theater
Djent: Periphery
Rock: Pink Floyd (Basically fuzz up!)

Volume that I can play is just to make my yelling stand out when playing guitar, but that happens for about 10 minutes a day before neighbor's come to complain.

TLDR: 500 euro budget
live in Germany, Hamburg
Good distortion and acceptable clean is a must. I like to have a sound close to gilmour's twin reverb and still have the oomph to play a Lamb of God.

IF I get the pod, am I to connect them to my Mustang again? Or am I limited to headphone or suck it up and buy some monitors. Right now I have a pair of Sennheiser IE80 in-ear monitors which do just fine. Will the pod (the one you put on table, HD: http://www.justmusic.de/gitarren-ba...preamp-fx-.html) serve me right, or should I invest in a 6505 or Blackstar HT5?

Kivarenn82 11-03-2012 08:19 PM

From experience, the only thing i've been able to run in apartments is a set of headphones.

the 6505 won't help you at all, considering that you sold your diezel due to volume. Blackstar would probably be fine, but you're already running a mustang. Do you need this amp for recording?

jeleopard 11-03-2012 08:23 PM

POD HD series is sexy. I've heard some tones on the POD HD sound better than an Axe FX using the same amp model.

Ian_the_fox 11-03-2012 11:39 PM

Apartment? Pod.

Cathbard 11-04-2012 12:40 AM

Pod, nice headphones and a powered wedge for when you need volume.



And when did Gilmour ever use a Twin?

-Ed- 11-04-2012 04:18 AM

I've never rated the Pods...... Bought a pocket pod and hated it, bought the 500 and sent it back. Remained curious though so bought a HD300 but didn't send it back and started to regret it. I was playing on some nice Sony headphones I'd seen recommended on the web.. Sounded ok but never exceptional. Started to think about selling it.


And then I bought a Yamaha HS50 monitor

Whoaaaaa.......

Much better. I am now very happy with it at low volume and it sounds ok turned up as well.. I'm not suggesting it'd be a rig to jam with (powered wedge would be a better choice than the HS50 for that). But, as my downstairs kids are in bed rig, I think it's awesome.

Delboyuk_01 11-04-2012 04:41 AM

If I ever want to practice with headphones I use my Boss br600. Sounds really good with loads of different effects and you can also run it through you stereo if you don't want to use headphones.
I think it's well within you budget.

iamcline 11-04-2012 05:08 AM

POD, no doubt.

baumaxx1 11-04-2012 06:19 AM

The pod, and get some studio monitors for the home or good headphones at the very least.

More versatility out of it and you don't have to worry about volume at all at home, and it's quite easy to record using moddelers such as the pod.

R45VT 11-04-2012 06:55 AM

I love my PODxt. Sits on top of the markV for the late night playing. One of these days I will get the HD version.

If it ever broke I would go buy a new one the same day.

Dan_5893 11-04-2012 06:59 AM

I have a Pod HD400, and I think it's possibly the best investment I've ever made in a piece of gear. I use it for gigs where time is limited for setting up, or I need to cart a load of drum gear with me, and for home practice, and it sounds pretty damn good. The amp models are pretty awesome, and they're very tweakable.

For 500, you can get the HD500 which is a step up from mine, has a few more features.

kyle62 11-04-2012 10:43 AM

Get an audio interface, good cheap monitors like the M-Audio AV40 and some nice free guitar amp software like Amplitube 3, Poulin etc.

omidmash 11-04-2012 11:08 AM

Thanks for recommendation but looks like some of you didn't get the part that I already have a very, very good set of IEMs. Sennheiser IE80, so I probably don't need any other kind of headphone.

To be honest, the idea of playing guitar through two speakers of a monitor sounds absolutely horrible to me. If I were to get monitors, i'd just buy myself a proper amplifier instead.

I think I am either going with Pod HD Desktop or saving up for an Eleven Rack (Hoping I can find a second hand around here).

Any other recommendations?

kyle62 11-04-2012 12:30 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by omidmash
Thanks for recommendation but looks like some of you didn't get the part that I already have a very, very good set of IEMs. Sennheiser IE80, so I probably don't need any other kind of headphone.

To be honest, the idea of playing guitar through two speakers of a monitor sounds absolutely horrible to me. If I were to get monitors, i'd just buy myself a proper amplifier instead.

I think I am either going with Pod HD Desktop or saving up for an Eleven Rack (Hoping I can find a second hand around here).

Any other recommendations?

I don't think you understand though; the Pod HD, Eleven Rack, AXE-FX etc are essentially just computers (typically using floating-point processors) running modelling software anyway.

So whatever you planned to plug your POD or Eleven into, plug your PC into it instead and you'll get just as good a sound, if not better.

Surely if it's for recording, you'll be hearing your guitar through monitors or IEMs anyway?

omidmash 11-04-2012 01:00 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by kyle62
I don't think you understand though; the Pod HD, Eleven Rack, AXE-FX etc are essentially just computers (typically using floating-point processors) running modelling software anyway.

So whatever you planned to plug your POD or Eleven into, plug your PC into it instead and you'll get just as good a sound, if not better.

Surely if it's for recording, you'll be hearing your guitar through monitors or IEMs anyway?


I completely understand that, my I prefer my guitar and etc to be far away from computer. I do a lot of stuff to my computer and I don't want to loose everything I make. That's why I'm looking for a so to say workstation that has nothing to do with a PC.

Perverockstar69 11-04-2012 01:55 PM

Pod HD

Ian_the_fox 11-04-2012 02:22 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by kyle62
I don't think you understand though; the Pod HD, Eleven Rack, AXE-FX etc are essentially just computers (typically using floating-point processors) running modelling software anyway.

So whatever you planned to plug your POD or Eleven into, plug your PC into it instead and you'll get just as good a sound, if not better.
I'm sorry but I'm going to have to say this is not true.

I don't think you've ever tried using software like an amp. If you have you'd find there is intense latency even with the most high end interfaces. It's not noticeable with recording but if you are playing in-room or to a track it gets really annoying. It's only like 2 milliseconds but it still gets in the way. It's even worse if you have an out-of-date computer and are using just USB.

Unless the TS is doing recording, the POD HD is 10x more of a practical solution than using just software. And even if he wanted to record, he can still do so with the POD.

Dillonski 11-04-2012 06:01 PM

I'd go for the POD HD 500 or the Desktop Bean POD HD. They sound amazing are very versatile. :)

Showiddlydiddly 11-04-2012 06:10 PM

I've been running a HD500 through good headphones or a PA for a while now, never regretted it. Picked it over some nice tube amps. It's a stupidly versatile bit of kit. I'd highly recc the Line 6.

baumaxx1 11-04-2012 09:32 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by kyle62
I don't think you understand though; the Pod HD, Eleven Rack, AXE-FX etc are essentially just computers (typically using floating-point processors) running modelling software anyway.

So whatever you planned to plug your POD or Eleven into, plug your PC into it instead and you'll get just as good a sound, if not better.

Surely if it's for recording, you'll be hearing your guitar through monitors or IEMs anyway?


Yes, but they don't have latency issues; modelling software on the PC from experience has been quite CPU intensive when trying to run Revalver and the like in "HD" mode, even on a high end PC back when I tried. You still need an interface for the guitar, midi for footswitching, and a decent soundcard or ouboard audio processor, and XLR outputs if you want to plug it into monitors or an amplified speaker (the proper way anyway).


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