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backlash92 11-14-2012 08:26 PM

Identifying and lessons regarding this style
 
First of all I'm not sure exactly what to call this style but I hear it a lot in japanese animes. I'd like to call it punk but at the same time I feel like it has more melody and it's a bit more complicated. I'm going to give a couple of examples.

This one demonstrates a lot of chord progressions between two guitars harmonizing within those chords.



While this one follows the same type of chord progressions but also includes leads harmonizing


Basically I'd like to learn more about playing these styles. Chords, Patterns, Harmonizing techniques etc. Or if someone could point me to an already established lesson that would be great too.

z4twenny 11-14-2012 09:27 PM

Music theory

backlash92 11-14-2012 11:36 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by z4twenny
Music theory

what about it?

mdc 11-14-2012 11:58 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by backlash92
what about it?

lol

Sleepy__Head 11-15-2012 04:33 AM

Punk? Punk!? WTF is wrong with you? This is punk:



Anyway to get back to the point I'd call the tracks you posted Japanese indie, which is pretty much what they'd call themselves, only the term they use is 'Dojin'.

What's stopping you working out the bass-line, chords and melody for both songs yourself, then using similar ideas to write your own songs (bearing in mind that if you want a truly authentic sound you'll either need to learn Japanese or find / hire a singer who does)?

Also: Why does the drummer from Shissou have one of his cymbals mounted 78 feet above his head?

MikeDodge 11-15-2012 10:55 AM

It's an Japanese version of girlie 80's euro and US pop metal (I add metal because of the guitar oriented style of those tunes, using cheap Yngwie minor melodic metal lines).

But the style of music is very similar to these bands from the 80's:

Berlin:

Missing Persons:

There are MANY others that fit in this style, if you need more just ask. And if you want some help learning them and understanding whats going let me know.

CryogenicHusk 11-15-2012 10:57 AM

The first song on OP remind me a bit of Dinosaur Jr.

backlash92 11-16-2012 01:41 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sleepy__Head
Punk? Punk!? WTF is wrong with you? This is punk:



Anyway to get back to the point I'd call the tracks you posted Japanese indie, which is pretty much what they'd call themselves, only the term they use is 'Dojin'.

What's stopping you working out the bass-line, chords and melody for both songs yourself, then using similar ideas to write your own songs (bearing in mind that if you want a truly authentic sound you'll either need to learn Japanese or find / hire a singer who does)?

Also: Why does the drummer from Shissou have one of his cymbals mounted 78 feet above his head?


well I know the vocals don't sound much like a typical punk song, but a lot of the guitar and drums does, though I do see what you mean because we typically think of punk as a more raw sound. I have heard a lot that has more melody to it though such as Authority zero's stuff

but getting back to the subject, as far as whats stopping me from learning this stuff is that I haven't really trained myself to be able to play things just by listening to them (unless it's something like simple power chords and what not) and since most of this stuff isn't all that popular in the states I haven't found too many good tabs. Save for "Shissou" by last alliance that is. I was hoping more for help identifying chords and keys within this style that could help me understand writing it a little more. Seems like I've upset a couple of people by coming off as ignorant. And I suppose I am since I haven't really developed all that much knowledge in the lines of music theory compared to others. As far as the examples given by MikeDodge. Those illustrate the vocals well, but not so much the guitar parts which are my focus. thanks for the help though


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