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fishinglearn 12-03-2012 05:15 PM

Low Tuning help.
 
I have started playing in lower tunings and the strings that came on my hellraiser, Ernie Ball Regular slinky's, are WAY too thin to play in Drop B and Drop A.
I have read all about thicker strings, and I want to find a string set that can play from standard to drop A without warping the neck and still sound good in all these tunings.
I don"t actually change tunings after every song.
I am thinking D'addario exl117's or 148's.
Help? :confused:

Lavatain 12-03-2012 05:23 PM

You're not gonna get a set of strings that works in the ranges of Drop A to Standard. Go for something like an 11-48 or 11-50 set. I wouldn't go thinner than 11 for that high B you'll be using in Drop A.

fishinglearn 12-03-2012 05:28 PM

Thanks. How are the exl117's?

Våd Hamster 12-03-2012 06:02 PM

Quote:
I want to find a string set that can play from standard to drop A without warping the neck and still sound good in all these tunings.

lol

No such thing I'm afraid


String tension is a preference thing, but I'd say minimum .056 for drop B and .060 for A, and even then we're into, IMO, disastrous flub area.


Personally I'd get a 012/013 (depending on scale length) set and switch out the bottom string out with a single string (060 for drop B, 065 for A)

jeleopard 12-03-2012 06:06 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lavatain
You're not gonna get a set of strings that works in the ranges of Drop A to Standard. Go for something like an 11-48 or 11-50 set. I wouldn't go thinner than 11 for that high B you'll be using in Drop A.



Yea... no. Those still won't do it for drop A... Assuming he's on a 25.5" scale...

fishinglearn 12-03-2012 06:15 PM

Thats why I was wondering about the 11-56 set, the d'addario exl117s
I am on a 25.5 scale
I dont play much of drop a, so lets just shoot for drop b.

jeleopard 12-03-2012 06:20 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by fishinglearn
Thats why I was wondering about the 11-56 set, the d'addario exl117s/


To ME, those would be SLIGHTLY too loose. Me, I'd go with the EJ22, 13-56

Robbie-G 12-03-2012 06:25 PM

Depending on your preference I think the 11-56 EXL117's would be an excellent starting point, I like using that gauge for Drop C.

Once you give them a shot you can see if you'll want to bump up the gauges and go with some 12 or 13's or just stick with the 11's

fishinglearn 12-03-2012 06:28 PM

Slightly loose is ok :)
I have been playing drop b with the stock strings, so I am used to loose :)
So should I go with the exl117's here?

Mr Winters 12-05-2012 06:22 AM

I currently use 11-52s D'Addarios for drop B, 25.5 scale. It's fine for me, though I'm thinking of going a bit thicker just to try.

MrFlibble 12-05-2012 06:57 AM

Use whatever is most comfortable for you; if you're not sure, go to the next gauge up of whatever you are using now. It's not like you have to pick one gauge and then you're stuck with it forever, it's easy enough to try things out in steps. Keep trying thicker and thicker (or, for anyone who is going the other way thinner) strings until you find the ones that feel best under your fingers, then stick with those. There is no reason to use anything other than what feels best to you, and only you can tell what that is.

Don't forget too, when tuning very low it can help to mix string sets. Most shops sell individual strings, so you're not limited to whatever comes in a pack. You could, for example, start with a medium string gauge like .010 or .011s, but then buy a thicker string for the 6th string and a lighter one for the 1st and 2nd. I, for example, use a .010 set but with the 6th replaced with a .050 for Eb Standard, a .010 set with the 1st and 2nd replaced with those from a .09 set for E Standard, and a .010 set with the 6th and 5th strings replaced by a .052 and a .042 for Drop C#. This provides a fairly uniform feel no matter what tuning I'm using. I can't even imagine simply using a regular set of strings now.

AndyGray 12-05-2012 08:31 AM

Do the Zakk Wlyde tuning AADGBE. Sounds pretty epic if you manage to do the detune in time with a song. I've done it in a breakdown before.

fishinglearn 12-09-2012 01:19 AM

In standard will the .056 gauge warp the neck?
Its not a major problem, because i could still play all of the music in standard in drop d, but I would still like to know...

KailM 12-09-2012 10:10 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by fishinglearn
In standard will the .056 gauge warp the neck?
Its not a major problem, because i could still play all of the music in standard in drop d, but I would still like to know...



If you try to take that .056 gauge and tune it all the way up to E standard, then yes; it might not be good for your neck.

That's the whole point in gauging up the lower you tune -- you're maintaining approximately the same tension as what you'd have on a guitar tuned normally with typical "E" standard gauged strings.

You really can't go between E or even D Standard and something like Drop B or Drop A with one set of strings. Either it will be ridiculously tight on the higher tunings or ridiculously loose and flabby on the lower tunings. If that's what you need to be able to do, you need two different guitars.

Personally, I try to get the same feel out of all my guitars. I have a Les Paul setup for D Standard and it's got an .11-.54 set of strings. My Schecter is setup for C# Standard/Drop B so it's got .12-.56s. It also has a slightly longer scale than the LP, otherwise, I'd run even thicker strings to maintain the tension I like. (The longer the scale, the less you need really heavy strings.)

fishinglearn 12-09-2012 10:34 PM

If I keep it in standard for a couple of songs it wont warp the neck, and I dont play in standard often.
I am sorry I kind of worded the initial question wrong...


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