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Nervouspace 12-14-2012 06:57 AM

My guitar recordings just don't sound right
 
I've used several different mic placements, different takes, fiddled with my amp a whole bunch. I've been recording day and night for the last couple days it seems

They just are not pleasing to listen to let alone mix...



I am using these mics


http://www.musiciansfriend.com/pro-...rophone-package



and this preamp

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/pro-...udio-mic-preamp



through my line 6 ux1

lockwolf 12-14-2012 07:00 AM

Well, other than the fact that both those mics are absolute shit in my eyes, clips would be nice

Wesbanez 12-14-2012 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by lockwolf
Well, other than the fact that both those mics are absolute shit in my eyes, clips would be nice


Fair comment on the MXL or whatever mic, but ART gear is fairly well regarded.

ChemicalFire 12-14-2012 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Wesbanez
but ART gear is fairly well regarded.


That's not what I hear. I hear that their pre-amps are considered more lighting than actually useful gear.

Nervouspace 12-14-2012 07:14 AM

https://soundcloud.com/nervou


I just labeled it two picking parts because There are two picking parts one acoustic and one electric

ChemicalFire 12-14-2012 07:16 AM

I don't see the issue with these clips if I'm honest...

The acoustic is a little lifeless perhaps, but not so much so that it's salvageable.

lockwolf 12-14-2012 07:16 AM

First clip is fine, second clip can use more high end

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wesbanez
Fair comment on the MXL or whatever mic, but ART gear is fairly well regarded.


Not the cheap stuff, the MP's hardly utilize the tube & have cheap components. You can change the tube & some of the components out and its decent but at that point, you're turning a $30 preamp into a $30 pre with $60 worth of mods. Of course, its probably better than the UX1 pres which are cheap as hell.

Nervouspace 12-14-2012 07:19 AM

Well they sound like shit in my song and I blame the clips because I haven't eq'd or done anything but try to mix them


The UX1 what's???

lockwolf 12-14-2012 07:22 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nervouspace
Well they sound like shit in my song and I blame the clips because I haven't eq'd or done anything but try to mix them


Okay, now this brings about another question, give us clips of it in your song if you've got some ready.

Nervouspace 12-14-2012 07:38 AM

Okay I posted it on there just called "them with the songs" ignore the pad for the first one.. i just threw it right there.

Are you talking about the UX1 pre amplifier? It hard does anything at all.

ChemicalFire 12-14-2012 07:44 AM

Have you eq'd any of the track? The clips sound find and the source material is the most important part. It could be that you've not eq'd the rest of the track enough to make space for everything?

lockwolf 12-14-2012 07:48 AM

God, those drums sound terrible. Anyways, mess around with levels & EQ like chem said

Nervouspace 12-14-2012 07:49 AM

Hmm. I guess I could be working backwards...I kept trying to eq the guitars to everything else.


Drums, pads, ect. I guess I should of been trying to eq them to the guitar tracks?


@lockwolf

I know! I have yet to find good drum samples I can work with...


and please answer my question about the UX1 thing....X(

funkymonk1985 12-14-2012 08:36 AM

i always find that the best tone comes from the start - what guitar and amp are you using?

the electric clean sound is a bit muddy around the bass notes - i would guess you're using a mid range humbucker like ibanez or epiphone?

also, what amp are you using and how loud? i find the dynamics of all sound recorded changes MASSIVELY depending on how loud youre playing ' especially if youre using valve amps.

lockwolf 12-14-2012 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Nervouspace
@lockwolf

I know! I have yet to find good drum samples I can work with...


and please answer my question about the UX1 thing....X(


What I mean by Preamps are the inputs on the UX1. They're known to be muddy and unclear (especially DI'd guitar). The Tube Pre is going to help but its not going to help as much as a new interface.

As far as drum samples, look into getting Steven Slate Drums. Best drums out there, especially for the price

KevinGoetz 12-14-2012 09:07 AM

The piano sounds WAY too trebly and far back; it doesn't even sound like it's in the same room as the rest of the instruments.

As for the electric guitars...I almost get the sense that you had your mic several feet back or something. Generally you want a dynamic mic no more than an inch back from the grill cloth of your amp. If you're already doing that, turn up the volume of your amp. Get it nice and close; you can always push it back artificially later. Frankly I'm surprised no one's pointed that out yet.

Nervouspace 12-14-2012 08:52 PM

Oh, I am also using a Crate Amp and a Mexico Tele

oneblackened 12-15-2012 12:30 AM

That piano is REALLY weird sounding. It's all off to the sides.

Yeah, I'd get something like (the very commonly used) SM57 for recording your amp. They're a classic for a reason - they sound quite good on guitars and snares (and even some voices, believe it or not - I believe Robert Plant uses them in studio).

ChemicalFire 12-15-2012 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by oneblackened
That piano is REALLY weird sounding. It's all off to the sides.

Yeah, I'd get something like (the very commonly used) SM57 for recording your amp. They're a classic for a reason - they sound quite good on guitars and snares (and even some voices, believe it or not - I believe Robert Plant uses them in studio).


This kind of statement should always be prefaced with something like "but it probably WON'T sound good for your voice".

Yes the sm57/58 sounds good with some peoples voices, but you're nearly always gonna be better off with a LDC.

oneblackened 12-15-2012 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ChemicalFire
This kind of statement should always be prefaced with something like "but it probably WON'T sound good for your voice".

Yes the sm57/58 sounds good with some peoples voices, but you're nearly always gonna be better off with a LDC.

This is true. Forgot to add that caveat.


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