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antisun 12-20-2012 10:18 PM

Should i replace my bullet strat?
 
I'm trying to decide if i should or not. TBH, i have no complaints about this guitar. I love the tone, the feel and the look. I also have a hard time distinguishing the sound of the bullet strat from a standard strat. Perhaps a small difference but nothing that makes me go "wow, this standard is so much better". I also like the sound of single coils better than humbuckers and any other guitars that appeal to me aesthetically are humbucking.

Maybe i'm missing something?

DancesWithSheep 12-20-2012 10:30 PM

If you like it - keep it!

THEN - go buy yourself a new axe...

Huge Guy 12-20-2012 10:49 PM

What amp are you using?

antisun 12-21-2012 12:02 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Huge Guy
What amp are you using?


line 6 spider IV.

krehzeekid 12-21-2012 12:30 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by antisun
line 6 spider IV.


that would be part of why you don't hear a huge difference. modelling amps tend to cover the natural sound of guitars, making similar guitars sound more similar than they otherwise would. the spiders are amoung the worst offenders in that regard.

anyways, if you don't see a limitation with your gear, you probably don't need new stuff. however, you will eventually start finding the limitations of your guitar (they are seriously limited guitars). at that point, you can get a new guitar.

jetwash69 12-21-2012 12:36 AM

First step:

- Get that Bullet a pro setup and some locking tuners.

Second step:

- Get a good amp.

Third step:

- Get better pickups, potentiometers, capacitors, 5-way switch and output jack

Fourth step:

- Start buying more guitars, like ones with 24 frets, ones with Floyd Rose tremolos, ones with humbuckers, ones made from different woods, etc.

ihartfood 12-21-2012 12:54 AM

^ this

jeleopard 12-21-2012 01:21 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by jetwash69
First step:

- Get that Bullet a pro setup and some locking tuners.

Second step:

- Get a good amp.

Third step:

- Get better pickups, potentiometers, capacitors, 5-way switch and output jack

Fourth step:

- Start buying more guitars, like ones with 24 frets, ones with Floyd Rose tremolos, ones with humbuckers, ones made from different woods, etc.



All that

Alucard817 12-21-2012 02:12 AM

I would replace the amp before the guitar. Spiders are notorious for being crap.

antisun 12-21-2012 02:30 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Alucard817
I would replace the amp before the guitar. Spiders are notorious for being crap.

really? because i replaced my crate flexwave with the spider. i like the extreme distortion i can get from it. for more laid back stuff, the flex wave works well, for things like black metal, i had a hard time finding something that would give me the kind of sound i was looking for, which i found in the spider. i'll admit, if it's a warm, bluesy, tube like sound you're looking for, line 6 isn't gonna get that. but it does what i want it to do, and that's giving me some nasty sounding distortion.

SwoobGuitar 12-21-2012 03:15 AM

I would never buy an amp for the distortion. The amp has to be great on the clean channel, I can use my stompboxes for distortion.
I recently bought a new amp (for my Bullet Strat), just for the clean tone, and it works great. Also I've put some Seymour Duncan for Strat's in there (JB Jr., Lil '59 will be there next week, SSL3)

Mentholman 12-21-2012 03:44 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by jetwash69
First step:

- Get that Bullet a pro setup and some locking tuners.

Second step:

- Get a good amp.

Third step:

- Get better pickups, potentiometers, capacitors, 5-way switch and output jack

Fourth step:

- Start buying more guitars, like ones with 24 frets, ones with Floyd Rose tremolos, ones with humbuckers, ones made from different woods, etc.


i agree with this. i did the same thing too, and i actually find myself playing my tricked out squier more than my other higher end guitars. i guess you tend to love your first guitar the most lol

jetwash69 12-21-2012 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Mentholman
i agree with this. i did the same thing too, and i actually find myself playing my tricked out squier more than my other higher end guitars. i guess you tend to love your first guitar the most lol


:)

I my case, my 1st guitar was an MIA Strat, my second was a Squier Affinity, and I have several MIJ guitars...yet my modded Squier is still my favorite and my main stage/recording guitar.

Can't say the same thing for amps, though. I hate my Marshall MG. I'd rather play thru MFX pedals going into PA speakers. My tube Marshall halfstack is OK, but it's not worth the pain most of the time. MFX thru PA gets the job done. The halfstack sounds 5% better, but does look infinitely cooler ;)

Alucard817 12-21-2012 08:04 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by antisun
really? because i replaced my crate flexwave with the spider. i like the extreme distortion i can get from it. for more laid back stuff, the flex wave works well, for things like black metal, i had a hard time finding something that would give me the kind of sound i was looking for, which i found in the spider. i'll admit, if it's a warm, bluesy, tube like sound you're looking for, line 6 isn't gonna get that. but it does what i want it to do, and that's giving me some nasty sounding distortion.

Spiders are known for being low quality, also the amp is known for masking a guitars natural tone.

Mentholman 12-21-2012 11:57 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by jetwash69
:)

I my case, my 1st guitar was an MIA Strat, my second was a Squier Affinity, and I have several MIJ guitars...yet my modded Squier is still my favorite and my main stage/recording guitar.

Can't say the same thing for amps, though. I hate my Marshall MG. I'd rather play thru MFX pedals going into PA speakers. My tube Marshall halfstack is OK, but it's not worth the pain most of the time. MFX thru PA gets the job done. The halfstack sounds 5% better, but does look infinitely cooler ;)


yeah i guess we lucked out on our squiers. what i enjoy about these things is despite them being cheap, some models tend to have great necks which makes them a great platform for modding. point is, if you enjoy the feel of your guitar even if its a lower end model, dont hesitate to upgrade it, as long as the cost is within reason.

Wesbanez 12-21-2012 12:02 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by SwoobGuitar
The amp has to be great on the clean channel, I can use my stompboxes for distortion.


Tell that to a 6505 and it'll kick you in the tits for being so stupid... ;)

antisun 12-21-2012 12:39 PM

About the spider....point is, i am fully aware of it's limitations, and i think it sounds perfectly fine on the clean channel, and it sounds awesome on the high gain channels, it's anywhere in between it's lacking. it's a budget practice amp that does what i want it to do without having to spend money that i currently don't have (being a college student with limited funds). I certainly don't plan on using it indefinitely, but for now, there's nothing it can't do that i want it to do. Also, i did have my guitar setup professionally back when i got it. I have since changed the strings to a heavier gauge so i don't know if it now needs re-adjusting. (10's-11's)

Huge Guy 12-21-2012 12:57 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Alucard817
Spiders are known for being low quality, also the amp is known for masking a guitars natural tone.


Yeah I have one and it makes all my guitars sound the same...single coil doesn't sound much different from humbuckers on it.

New amp is on my shopping list for the new year.

For the record, my 2-year-old likes the Spider...

Alucard817 12-21-2012 08:35 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by antisun
About the spider....point is, i am fully aware of it's limitations, and i think it sounds perfectly fine on the clean channel, and it sounds awesome on the high gain channels, it's anywhere in between it's lacking. it's a budget practice amp that does what i want it to do without having to spend money that i currently don't have (being a college student with limited funds). I certainly don't plan on using it indefinitely, but for now, there's nothing it can't do that i want it to do. Also, i did have my guitar setup professionally back when i got it. I have since changed the strings to a heavier gauge so i don't know if it now needs re-adjusting. (10's-11's)

The amp should be good all round. My Vypyr gets good everything. Cleans, low gain, mid gain, high gain and sounds more natural (To my ears) If that makes any sense.

Okay nough bout the amp. Yes you will need to tweak your guitar's set up since you have the heavier gauge. Shouldn't be too much of a hassle though.

Mephaphil 12-21-2012 09:23 PM

Some people may love the Line 6, which is fair enough, it's a subjective issue. There is no right and wrong. But you'll struggle to emulate any real tone of your idols due to the quality of the amp. So eventually, when you start studying musicians and you want to emulate tone as you record your own version of a song, or when you start to admire them and try and write like them, you'll realise that the Spider just won't cut it.

However, you might not want to emulate anyone and might not admire anyone and are just your own musician. But that's a rarity ;)

But if you can't tell the difference between a Squier Bullet and MIA I have to ask.

Are you playing these two guitars through your Spider?

Have you ever played through a good tube amp?

How long have you been playing?

I'm just wondering if it's an experience thing and I don't mean that to come across as offensive or patronising.


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