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the_great15 01-01-2013 05:39 PM

a little help
 
ive been playing the guitar for about 6 years now and im pretty much self taught but i dont feel like i know as much as i should for example: key changes, chord progressions, and a few other things. Now im sure i do know the jist of them all however im doing two different genres at the same time and would like to improve my skills on the metal side with the drop c tuning. so if anyone has any pointers i will gladly take them!


RT

Zaphod_Beeblebr 01-01-2013 06:53 PM

That is an extremely broad question... about the only things I can think of for a question that meaningless are a pair of equally meaningless answers: learn theory and practice your technique.

Learn more music and learn how it works in theory terms. That's about it.

Mokumo 01-01-2013 09:29 PM

Look up modes and how they work. Understand how and why A minor and C major have the exact same notes. That will help you with chord progressions - like when to play major or minor chords and which notes to play over certain chords/scales. As for slide... I've been playing a lot of slide too lately and I highly recommend open tunings. It is fairly easy to mess around with a 12 bar blues structure in open G or E.

Theory can be confusing at first, so read as much as you can and don't forget there are no stupid questions.

Cheers :)

Zaphod_Beeblebr 01-01-2013 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Mokumo
Look up modes and how they work. Understand how and why A minor and C major have the exact same notes. That will help you with chord progressions - like when to play major or minor chords and which notes to play over certain chords/scales. As for slide... I've been playing a lot of slide too lately and I highly recommend open tunings. It is fairly easy to mess around with a 12 bar blues structure in open G or E.

Theory can be confusing at first, so read as much as you can and don't forget there are no stupid questions.

Cheers :)


No. TS does not need to know anything about modes, just like almost every other guitarist on Earth.

the_great15 01-01-2013 09:58 PM

well thanks for the help people

StrykVladzimsky 01-02-2013 01:29 AM

First '13 I've seen so far :)

bangoodcharlote 01-02-2013 01:52 AM

Read the lesson in my sig. Ignore anyone who tells you to learn modes. You will start to learn theory by learning the major scale.

kian89 01-02-2013 10:56 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zaphod_Beeblebr
No. TS does not need to know anything about modes, just like almost every other guitarist on Earth.


Thats Positive

Zaphod_Beeblebr 01-02-2013 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by kian89
Thats Positive


Get to the point...

TheNameOfNoone 01-02-2013 11:52 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zaphod_Beeblebr
No. TS does not need to know anything about modes, just like almost every other guitarist on Earth.


I honestly doubt that anyone who posts things like "learn modes, they are the holy grail of music theory" knows anything about modes in the first place...
(if they knew anything about modes they would see how useless they are)

Zaphod_Beeblebr 01-02-2013 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by TheNameOfNoone
I honestly doubt that anyone who posts things like "learn modes, they are the holy grail of music theory" knows anything about modes in the first place...
(if they knew anything about modes they would see how useless they are)


Maybe, maybe not, the point is that someone needs to keep telling the people who ask these questions to ignore the people who do recommend learning 'modes'. Not that most people who would say that actually know what a mode really is.

Mokumo 01-05-2013 04:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Zaphod_Beeblebr
Get to the point...


The point is, my friend, that this is a learning environment and telling somebody that they should go out of their way to not learn something (in any subject) is bad advice. Be positive. Sure, modes aren't a very important part of guitar playing.

What I meant to say in my last post was that it is important to know what chords to play in certain keys or scales. Now that I'm thinking more critically about this, I realize modes don't have much to do with that. I remember it helping me when I figured that stuff out, I thought maybe it would help him too. I don't visit this forum often and I didn't realize there were a lot of people overemphasizing modes.

Still, telling people to not learn things is bad. Aristotle figured that out and he was a pretty good teacher.

bangoodcharlote 01-06-2013 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Mokumo
telling somebody that they should go out of their way to not learn something (in any subject) is bad advice.
I'm quite in favor of telling people to ignore set theory that assumes the axiom of choice to be false.

Thus, ignore modes for a long time. They're kind of cute once you know the important stuff -- and confusing and worthless until then. (That is, Metallica's Battery does not begin with an E Phrygian lick.)


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