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TJWhonley 01-14-2013 06:42 PM

what head in 1200 range?
hi guys.
im after a head that i can get everything out of (i know, but i play in both a jazz band and a lamb of god/killswitch tribute act)
i was looking at the marshall jvm 410h as a starting point.
needs at least 50 watts.
i already have a cab (marshall 1960a) and a les paul standard, as well as a decent pedalboard.
im upgrading from a vht lead 20 (not enough power, too heavy, not enough gain, and generally sounds crap)
won't go used for insurance purposes.
any suggestions welcome:)

Dave_Mc 01-14-2013 06:53 PM

how heavy is too heavy?

Tremolo Bum 01-14-2013 06:57 PM

Sounds like a mesa mark iv might be your best option.

loki_lulamen 01-14-2013 06:58 PM

well if your current head is too heavy, the JVM is nigh on 30 kilos.

its very british sounding for the metal you are playing but with the right EQ it will get heavy enough.

Carvin V3M would be worth a look at. Lunchbox size, nuff gain, 3 channels, 50w

TJWhonley 01-14-2013 07:00 PM

as in weight; it was back breaking, the fact it has no carry handles make it so arkward on your posture, meaning yourback was constantly slumped whenever you carry it. and im not weak, ive played rugby since i was 5, and this is like the same area in concrete! it must have been at least 40kg!(wtf)
as in music; NEVER TOO HEAVY!!!

TJWhonley 01-14-2013 07:04 PM

Originally Posted by Tremolo Bum
Sounds like a mesa mark iv might be your best option.

mesa's are gold dust and stupidly expensive in the uk, as are carvins and (to a lesser extent) peaveys

FatalGear41 01-14-2013 07:10 PM

Since you are in the U.K., take a look at Laney's new Ironheart. It got great reviews in Premier Guitar, and Laney makes good stuff.

Robbgnarly 01-14-2013 07:12 PM

Krank 1980/1980Jr50watt

TJWhonley 01-14-2013 07:12 PM

Originally Posted by FatalGear41
Since you are in the U.K., take a look at Laney's new Ironheart. It got great reviews in Premier Guitar, and Laney makes good stuff.
theyre only about 500 over here, give or take. i was wanting to get something a little more high end. thanks tho

loki_lulamen 01-14-2013 07:13 PM

the V3M goes for about 700 new dude. with a 1200 budget you are laughing.

but then again, you wont go used...

FatalGear41 01-14-2013 07:14 PM

In that case, how much would a Hiwatt Hi-Gain set you back? They're truly fantastic amplifiers.

TJWhonley 01-14-2013 07:44 PM

what do you guys think to either;
the jvm 410
the blackstar series one 6l6
both 4 channel 100 watt heads

loki_lulamen 01-14-2013 07:50 PM


Tom 1.0 01-14-2013 08:09 PM

Why can't you go used?

TJWhonley 01-14-2013 08:12 PM

Originally Posted by Tom 1.0
Why can't you go used?

insuring the gear in the uk goes through the roof if its used and not under warranty etc.

Tom 1.0 01-14-2013 08:12 PM

How would they know?

Dave_Mc 01-14-2013 08:17 PM

to be fair, i'm guessing he doesn't want to get done for insurance fraud. which is fair enough. there's not much point in saving money by going used only to spend it on more insurance (assuming what he says is correct... i haven't looked into insurance, but i'm sure what he's saying is correct).

how heavy is too heavy? weight-wise, i mean. that vht lead 20 seemed to be 26kg if i remember correctly (i looked it up earlier). some of the higher end/more featured valve amp heads are pushing that kind of weight, so it is worth bearing in mind.

Tom 1.0 01-14-2013 08:20 PM

Oh yeah I know, was just curious as to how they could check.

I know some brands have transferable warranties, such as peavey.

I would say maybe look into ENGL but with 1200 you wont get a decent one new.

TJWhonley 01-14-2013 08:28 PM

like i say, with the weight, its more the poor design that makes it more of a chore than it accouaaly is. I lug PA and cabs fine, but they have proper built in carry handles. besides, im not too fussed. i bench 100kg its just the inconvinience of that particular amp that made it not nesceceralily difficult, but a chore.

Dave_Mc 01-14-2013 08:30 PM

^^ i'm guessing they could just ask for your receipt etc. Yeah the transferable warranty thing is a good point.

you can get a retro tube (no idea what that one's like) or blackmore for under his budget (on thomann). but yeah teh savage and things like that are more like 1500+.

EDIT: ^ ah ok :)

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