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J2G 01-25-2013 01:25 PM

Pedals and Input cords
 
I just recently (about 2 weeks ago) got a DS-1 dist. pedal and I like using it (first and only pedal)
It was all good just a week ago... idk why it's sounding muddy but my only guess is that the battery is dying? Does anyone know why it's sounding muddy now?
(Using: Epiphone Les Paul Standard - Peavey VYPYR 30W)

Also do cords make the sound better through your amp? I don't know if that changes anything, but if so I want some quality stuff, I once saw a cover of ADTR on youtube and the dude used a "iMonster" cable and that it doesn't pick up sounds from hitting the string when he records. Sounds cool, are there other good cords?

Please help :).

gerraguitar 01-25-2013 01:30 PM

anytime you're using batteries instead of power supply the battery life will effect the sound, in some cases (like a fuzz pedal) it can be a good thing, but for others it just sounds like a dying pedal. the ds-1 is fizzy and muddy enough as it is so you either should look into a power supply or keep fresh batteries handy.

the cable consensus is an ongoing discussion and struggle among players. i don't really even think about it and just stick to monster cables, if it's your only pedal and if you don't need a lot of space to move away from the amp then just grab a 3 foot cable to go from the pedal to the amp.

i don't really concern myself too much with cables so maybe others will be more knowledgeable

Roc8995 01-25-2013 01:43 PM

Are you unplugging the cable from the input jack when you're not using the pedal? You're draining the battery if you aren't doing that.

I would not worry about getting a better cable. Cables make a tiny difference, barely noticeable under even optimal conditions. The notion that there's a cable that eliminates pick noise is laughable, that guy was making things up. Monster is notorious for making preposterous marketing claims.

Telecaster7 01-25-2013 01:45 PM

I second the power supply motion. Cheaper in the long run and will save you from the sound of a dying battery.

As for the cables, some people sweat they can hear differences in cables that are worth worrying about, but I've never really made note of any cable being so far superior that it had to replace the one I had.

sroze478 01-25-2013 02:15 PM

Probably the battery dying. You can either keep a bunch of batteries around or look into getting a power supply, either like a power brick or just something you plug into an outlet and then has a cord that has several 9v power plugs. Also, if you're using batteries, it will help a lot if you make sure to unplug one or both of the guitar cables from the pedal when you're not using it, as long as the cables are plugged into it the pedal is still using power, even when it's not on. Honestly, it will be cheaper and easier in the long run (especially if you plan on getting more pedals at some time) to just buy some sort of power supply.

As for the cable debate...it's my opinion that some cables are a lot better than others, but not for their sound. A higher quality cable will be made of better materials so it will be more durable, the tips will be better, and it will probably last a lot longer. Will it sound better? Probably not, at least not a noticeable difference...perhaps under intense scrutiny with the right software someone could find some frequency that is better represented by one cable than another, for instance, but that's not stuff that you or anyone else can hear with their ears.

Silver Hilton 01-25-2013 03:58 PM

The length of the cable will matter more than whether it's some high end piece. As others have noted, more expensive cables generally have better fittings. I think anything above a Peavey or Mogami is a waste of perfectly good money. I got sold a couple of high end cables early in my playing career, and can't hear a lick of difference between them and a Peavey. The Peaveys don't have that good of fittings though.

I will say that I am older, and know I have some high end hearing loss, so if there was a difference in the high ranges, I'm not the best judge. However, if I can't hear a difference, I'll be damned if I'll pay for a difference. I can hear plenty of difference between types of pickups, so I know I'm not deaf to any difference. Cables contribute very little to a guitar's sound. The rest of your sound chain is going to matter much more.

tubetime86 01-25-2013 04:03 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Silver Hilton
The length of the cable will matter more than whether it's some high end piece. As others have noted, more expensive cables generally have better fittings. I think anything above a Peavey or Mogami is a waste of perfectly good money. I got sold a couple of high end cables early in my playing career, and can't hear a lick of difference between them and a Peavey. The Peaveys don't have that good of fittings though.

I will say that I am older, and know I have some high end hearing loss, so if there was a difference in the high ranges, I'm not the best judge. However, if I can't hear a difference, I'll be damned if I'll pay for a difference. I can hear plenty of difference between types of pickups, so I know I'm not deaf to any difference. Cables contribute very little to a guitar's sound. The rest of your sound chain is going to matter much more.

Good post. :)

J2G 01-27-2013 09:48 PM

Love UG for good informative posts. Thanks guys, I'll definitely get a power supply. One that has many male ends sounds perfect, I'd like a link if you know where to buy.

ALSO if anyone else still wants to help... don't pedalboards have power supplies on deck? If so which ones?

Roc8995 01-27-2013 09:52 PM

Some crappy pedalboards are all integrated. They are as previously mentioned, crappy. SKB, Furman, and Musician's gear all make one like that and they're all total crap. Poorly laid out, poorly made, and if they break you get to buy a whole new one.

Decent pedalboards are just the board - some wood with some velcro on it. Then you get your Voodoo Labs Pedal Power 2+ or your CAE MC403 and you mount it under the board and spend an hour routing, tying off, and taping down all the power and patch cables. Then you buy a new pedal two days later and you have to start over.

J2G 01-28-2013 08:34 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Roc8995
Some crappy pedalboards are all integrated. They are as previously mentioned, crappy. SKB, Furman, and Musician's gear all make one like that and they're all total crap. Poorly laid out, poorly made, and if they break you get to buy a whole new one.

Decent pedalboards are just the board - some wood with some velcro on it. Then you get your Voodoo Labs Pedal Power 2+ or your CAE MC403 and you mount it under the board and spend an hour routing, tying off, and taping down all the power and patch cables. Then you buy a new pedal two days later and you have to start over.


Lmao thanks for the insight brutha man! I'll avoid the bs boards and suck it up thru the tedious process of re-taping.


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