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xxgenocide98xx 06-15-2006 01:19 AM

The Mother Of All 5150/6505 Threads!!!!
 
Since there seems to be about five billion threads on the 5150 I've decided to take it upon myself to make a thread where users can post questions/answers etc for the 5150. I've got one, several other forum-goers have them, and well.. lets keep the GG&A forum SPAM-FREE so check here for a whole bunch of info on the 5150s.

Fire away.

TheFluffy 06-15-2006 01:26 AM

I noticed this too.


Information:

The 5150 is the exact same as the 6505.

The 5150 II is the exact same as the 6505+.

The II/ + has better cleans, and less gain.

The 5150/6505 can have decent cleans with a chorus pedel, despite what many think.

The block letter and the signature amps only difference is factory tube quality.

The 5150/6505 is low mid focused, making it a very dark amp. Peavey bright amp is the XXX.



Hope this helps.

Blinded0n1sidE 06-15-2006 02:49 AM

THANK YOU! seriously ive been going thru all these damned threads answering the same questions over and over! :haha

So yeah, I own (well...I used to OWN it, but I sold it to the guitar player in my band. He lives about 45 seconds away from me so I still consider it mine) a modded 6505. So yeah, I pretty much...liked it...but never had a use for it for some reason...and neither does the kid I sold it to...oh well.

Its a kick ass amp anyways, and I love it.

[edit] I would do this but I dont have time.

Someone make a big list of all the cabs that go good with the head!

xxgenocide98xx 06-15-2006 03:12 AM

In my opinion cabs that go well with the 5150-

5150 straight cab

Any of these as 2x12s or 4x12s-
ENGL Traditional w/ v30s
Marshall 1960a or AV.
MesaBoogie Traditonal w/ v30s
Genz Benz G-Flex
Carvin Legacy

numbfinger 06-15-2006 03:50 AM

is it true the 6505 + has less gain then the normal one?

TheFluffy 06-15-2006 03:54 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by numbfinger
is it true the 6505 + has less gain then the normal one?

Yes

Read the second post.

numbfinger 06-15-2006 04:27 AM

uhh yeah...i diod dude


im just conferming it...have you used both side by side? same cab, same guitar??

Blinded0n1sidE 06-15-2006 04:45 AM

^ Ive read a lot of things saying that the 6505+ has less gain then the 6505...although the amount is unnoticable to most. Besides, with an amp like that who cares which has more or less gain...the bottom line is that the amp has more gain then youll ever need. lol

I also talked to the amp tech for the band Blindside about the amp. (Simon, the guitarist of Blindside was there as well :headbang: and hes used the 5150 since like 1994) Anyways, he also mentioned that the 6505+/5150II is a "little more laid back".

gpderek09 06-17-2006 02:41 PM

wiat, wasn't it that the +/II had more gain on the rhythm channel, while the lead channel was unaltered?

TheFluffy 06-17-2006 02:44 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by gpderek09
wiat, wasn't it that the +/II had more gain on the rhythm channel, while the lead channel was unaltered?

No, noob.

gpderek09 06-17-2006 02:46 PM

yes n00b.

TheFluffy 06-17-2006 02:49 PM

http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/foru...&highlight=5150

TimmyPage06 06-17-2006 03:25 PM

Yeah.. on a Double Recto I cant stand a gain above 5, so... the 6505+.. enough gain for that?

TheFluffy 06-17-2006 03:39 PM

hah...yeah

my XXX gain stays below 4.. its at 1.5 when i have it cranked...dont even need a noise gate

gpderek09 06-17-2006 06:40 PM

^ n00b. you're hardly a gain \/\/hore.

ben:
XxGenocide98xX: Tell him that thread he linked to is WRONG
XxGenocide98xX: [15:33] XxGenocide98xX: because its true, what would an extra preamp tube do for CLEAN headroom?
[15:33] XxGenocide98xX: it would give you more gain 'headroom'
[15:33] XxGenocide98xX: duh
[15:34] XxGenocide98xX: but if you wanted a cleaner channel you'd take one of those 12ax7s out
[15:34] XxGenocide98xX: not put another one in
[15:34] XxGenocide98xX: haha
[15:34] Erock: yeah, adding 12at7 instead of 12ax7 would give less gain
[15:34] Erock: adding more power tubes would add headroom
[15:34] Erock: not adding another 12ax7 though
[15:35] XxGenocide98xX: yes

pwnt.

JimiMan1535 06-17-2006 06:46 PM

Lol you got unbanned again fluffy, I have a feeling you'll be seeing exile island quite soon again.

Yea and wtf gain at 4?? The JSX sounds like a little crunch box if I put it under 6 on ultra lol.

And anybody know why the 5150II has only one input and the regular has 2 like most master volume amps?

EDIT: Derek lol you're the man, I was asking myself the same question about that. Usually when you want less gain you put in a 12AU7 or AT7 because they have less gain than the AX7.

gpderek09 06-17-2006 06:57 PM

^ :cheers:

TheFluffy 06-17-2006 07:37 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by JimiMan1535
Lol you got unbanned again fluffy, I have a feeling you'll be seeing exile island quite soon again.

Yea and wtf gain at 4?? The JSX sounds like a little crunch box if I put it under 6 on ultra lol.

And anybody know why the 5150II has only one input and the regular has 2 like most master volume amps?

EDIT: Derek lol you're the man, I was asking myself the same question about that. Usually when you want less gain you put in a 12AU7 or AT7 because they have less gain than the AX7.



I was banned for like...2 days..dick. Any why do you think ill be banned again?


Maybe the JSX has less gain then the XXX? Hmm..


And to Derek, you suck!

PunishedOne 06-17-2006 07:43 PM

I can't imagine any type of Gain below 3 o' clock, seriously.

TheFluffy 06-17-2006 07:49 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by PunishedOne
I can't imagine any type of Gain below 3 o' clock, seriously.

Then you are an idiot.

If i have my amp cranked, and the gain is up, i get feedback...and at that volume level...there is no difference between gain on 2 or gain on 10.

So, its kinda like feedback vs no feedback. You decide.


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