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Creepass 02-27-2008 02:20 AM

Question about Abigail
 
What does this line mean:

"If you refuse Eighteen will become Nine

Eighteen is Nine"

I tried to search for it both on this forum and on google and on wikipedia (which is actually a good music reference), but to no avail.

All I can figure out is that Miriam (a character from the album's story) is listed as 18 years old at the story, but I am not sure where the nine falls in.

Anyone know, everyone I have asked has had no clue. If I need to hop a flight to Danish-land, so be it. I will find out what it means or kill my entire family (by pushing them down the stairs so they easily break their necks).

Magero 02-27-2008 02:22 AM

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Rengori 02-27-2008 02:32 AM

It probably means there were 18 people and if they refused 18 would go down to 9. Then they refused so 18 went down to 9.

Though this is really hard to put into context without some sort of insight as to what the band, song, or rest of the lyrics put it in.

Creepass 02-27-2008 02:40 AM

The basic story is this: Jonathan LaFey and his wife Miriam move to a mansion Jonathan inherited. When they get there, Seven "Black Horsemen" are there to tell them to not move into the house because if they do "18 will become 9".

Jonathan later learns that his ancestor who lived in the house, Count de LaFey, learned his pregnant wife's baby was not his and pushed her down the stairs of the home, forcing her baby to be born dead. The baby was named abigail and the counts horsemen (the black horsemen) take the baby and bury it.

Then the spirit of abigail possesses Miriam, making her become pregnant with Abigail. The fetus develops quickly and eventually takes total control of Miriam. She then pushes Jonathan down the stairs killing him. Miriam then dies while giving Birth to Abigail.

At this point, the Black Horsemen arrive and take the re-born baby Abigail and take her to a church to kill her. Presumably by nailing 7 silver spikes through her hands, arms, knees and mouth like they first did when she died, but this is not told.

Anyway, that is the story.

Magero 02-27-2008 02:45 AM

Question:
Wtf is this?
Band/album/song/play/dirigible made of cheese/ect
?

Creepass 02-27-2008 02:48 AM

ITS KING DIAMOND!!! I'm amazed you guys don't know what I'm talking about.

Here, read the wikipedia article:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abigail_%28album%29

Magero 02-27-2008 02:49 AM

My god, thank you!
Anyway
Theres a King Diamond thread floating around
Go ask there.

Creepass 02-27-2008 02:59 AM

I did, it got buried under a mountainous hill of message board bulls***.

Magero 02-27-2008 03:08 AM

Then ask again. No need for a whole thread.
Besides, if wiki can't save you
No one can.

Creepass 02-27-2008 03:17 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Magero
Besides, if wiki can't save you
No one can.


That's borderline sigable.

NosferatuZodd09 02-27-2008 03:20 AM

um 9 = 9 months whats the baby, which was born dead, the prophecy by the horsemen was that miriam who was 18 would become her dead child, 9 months

well thats what I can tell from the story you posted, and so, he pushed her, she died, and the ghost took over miriam, so on so forth

good pwning work no?

Magero 02-27-2008 03:29 AM

^Thats good
Listen to him.

roarinflames 02-27-2008 03:45 AM

i actually thought it was a threat to be cut in half
:haha
im totally serious too
knowing king diamond, i wouldnt be surprised if i was right

Creepass 02-27-2008 04:14 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by NosferatuZodd09
um 9 = 9 months whats the baby, which was born dead, the prophecy by the horsemen was that miriam who was 18 would become her dead child, 9 months

well thats what I can tell from the story you posted, and so, he pushed her, she died, and the ghost took over miriam, so on so forth

good pwning work no?


Thats the only thing I could think of. So I guess that must be it.

And if its not, f*** it I'm too tired and I have to piss out my colon.

NosferatuZodd09 02-27-2008 06:19 AM

well, makes quite a bit of sense lol, all those things ended up happening, born dead = 9 months xD

her 18, she become the 9, aka abigail, her dead girl O_o so on so forth =] otherwise yeah, or try to find some forums with them answering questions^^ lol

i have to pee 02-27-2008 06:28 AM

I just want to know how the **** none of you knew it was King Diamond?

whalepudding 02-27-2008 06:34 AM

It was only 2 people who didn't know, maybe 2 people don't listen to King Diamond.

NosferatuZodd's post seems pretty likely.

i have to pee 02-27-2008 06:36 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by whalepudding
It was only 2 people who didn't know, maybe 2 people don't listen to King Diamond.

NosferatuZodd's post seems pretty likely.

Abigail is a classic, and should been listened to by any metalhead no matter if you like it or not. That is like saying you've never heard a Slayer song...

Magero 02-27-2008 07:30 AM

I just don't really like King Diamond.
Just...eh...

NosferatuZodd09 02-27-2008 10:30 AM

i knew it was king diamond lol, but uh, never listened to much of their stuff -thanks to clerks II i had some exposure to them aside what i had already known lmao :D-

interesting and fun lyrics

however, im no metal head... its just that 90% of the day im listening to metal -my own little metal worlddddddddddd- with bands that like... i seem to only know myself <______<"


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