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Old 04-26-2009, 08:26 PM   #1
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Relic-ing My Guitar (pic heavy)

First off:
I know that relic-ing guitars is a somewhat "controversial" subject here. People have different opinions about relic-ing and I respect that, just make sure not to post a bunch of spam, regardless of whether you like relic-ed guitars or not.

Anyway, I've always been a fan of relic guitars and today I decided to start the process of making my modified POS squier into something that's seen lots of bars, abuse and car trunks.

I used fine grain sand paper and steel wool to rough up the body, if you want to see pics of the guitar originally you can use the "Squier Mod" link in my sig.




















I think that's all i'm going to do to the finish itself, I plan to order a new aged pick guard, pickup covers, knobs, etc. and possibly a maple neck from GFS. Any comments or suggestions?
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Old 04-26-2009, 08:39 PM   #2
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I think it's pretty tasteful, though I don't like artificial relics for a lot of reasons that aren't worth going into here!
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1. 'Age' the white plastic parts or replace them with cream, mint green, or tortoiseshell. At least rough them up with steel wool so that you can't see yourself in them anymore. People have all sorts of recipes for yellowing the plastic- from what I understand, anything that stains your teeth will stain a pickguard. Coffee, black tea, cigarette smoke, etc.
2. Clean the steel wool filings off of your pickups (5th pic)
3. There's an unnatural lack of wear in one spots where most guitars get worn out.


See the spot where he went through the paint?


Other than that, I think it looks good! Keep us posted
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Old 04-26-2009, 08:39 PM   #3
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Hmm... That actually looks nice, it's not the "HEY LOOK HERE I HAS A S00PER RAD GUITAR CUZ IT'S ALL BEAT UP AND STUFF" kinda guitar...
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Old 04-26-2009, 09:44 PM   #4
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I does not like relic-ed. But this has been made with some taste. So this is acceptable. So yeah. Nice job on working the finish, but as Rebel said, you forgot a spot. Maybe make it look more subtle-like too. Dip the pickguard in some coffee after having LIGHTLY sanding it. Check it every couple hours by rincing the coffe and drying it completely.
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Old 04-26-2009, 10:15 PM   #5
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I does not like relic-ed. But this has been made with some taste. So this is acceptable. So yeah. Nice job on working the finish, but as Rebel said, you forgot a spot. Maybe make it look more subtle-like too. Dip the pickguard in some coffee after having LIGHTLY sanding it. Check it every couple hours by rincing the coffe and drying it completely.


Yeah i've always heard that "Less is more" with relics so I tried to be conservative with the sand paper and wool. Since i last posted I added a few more chips and dents into the finish with a flat head screw driver, i'll post pics tomorrow if I get the chance.
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Old 04-27-2009, 12:05 AM   #6
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Scratch up the trem cavity plate or take it off. Take a belt buckle and rub it against the plate. That sounds like it could be put in to a sexual context...
anyway,
Very nice relic. Thank you for not being a moron with this.
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Old 04-27-2009, 12:09 AM   #7
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I think it's pretty tasteful, though I don't like artificial relics for a lot of reasons that aren't worth going into here!
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1. 'Age' the white plastic parts or replace them with cream, mint green, or tortoiseshell. At least rough them up with steel wool so that you can't see yourself in them anymore. People have all sorts of recipes for yellowing the plastic- from what I understand, anything that stains your teeth will stain a pickguard. Coffee, black tea, cigarette smoke, etc.
2. Clean the steel wool filings off of your pickups (5th pic)
3. There's an unnatural lack of wear in one spots where most guitars get worn out.


See the spot where he went through the paint?


Other than that, I think it looks good! Keep us posted

We're talking about Number 1 here...so I must ask....WHICH ONE????

I'm assuming your talking about close to the top cutaway where there is pickwear, right?
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Old 04-27-2009, 12:36 AM   #8
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^ I'm assuming that he means the bit above the pickguard that you're likely to hit when you're seriously wailing on the guitar.

Anyways, this is a nice relic, so great job on that. It looks really damn cool. I also like the paint job generally on that. It seems weird to say, but it looks resonant.
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I think it needs more dings & dents around the edges. Just having the sanded paint fade is kinda weird.
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Old 04-27-2009, 01:57 AM   #10
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ball peen hammer? duct tape? steel wool?

use the hammer with the wool duct taped over the tip, strike softly a lot of times at sharp angles, it will look a little more natural. you look a little too clean in some spots.

good job though!
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Old 04-27-2009, 10:04 PM   #11
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Ok, i read all of your guys' comments and made a few more changes to the finish.

First off, I added some chips in the paint near the top of the pickguard like on SRV's guitar:


I also added more chips and wear to the edges of the guitar body:






I also added another heavily worn area to the back of the guitar:



here are the full view pics of the guitar:


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Old 04-27-2009, 10:10 PM   #12
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Old 04-27-2009, 10:49 PM   #14
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Looks good, a lot better than some of the trash some people put on here. The only gripe I have is that maybe it looks artificial in some spots. I'm being overly picky though, overall it looks cool.
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I'd make the wear on the elbow contour a little less even, and make the wear above the pickguard a little more concentrated to a certain area.
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I'd make the wear on the elbow contour a little less even, and make the wear above the pickguard a little more concentrated to a certain area.


Exactly.

Looking better though. Keep it up!
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Wow, what did you do, smoke crack cocaine off your guitar? Jeez louise.
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Old 04-28-2009, 10:04 AM   #18
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1. Buckle rash
2. Get some stain and put it on the bare wood so it looks like its been exposed for a while.
3. "aged" parts will look much less authentic than if you age them yourself.
4. Dirty up that chrome.
5. If you're buying a new neck be sure to age that also. Fretboard wear, banged up headstock, and make sure its got a worn finish and dirty wood.

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1. Buckle rash
2. Get some stain and put it on the bare wood so it looks like its been exposed for a while.
3. "aged" parts will look much less authentic than if you age them yourself.
4. Dirty up that chrome.
5. If you're buying a new neck be sure to age that also. Fretboard wear, banged up headstock, and make sure its got a worn finish and dirty wood.

go here for great info...
http://www.relicdeluxe.com/


thanks for that link, i was trying to find that website but wasn't able to. Also thanks for the advice about staining the wood, i'll definitely try that.

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Old 04-28-2009, 11:15 PM   #20
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it doesnt look right. it looks unnatural. the areas where it's worn down are too small and localized to be caused by the wear and tear of playing. measure the width of your forearm. it should be as big/wide as that. some consideration for the direction the wear is going in should be taken also.

plus you gotta beat on it a bit more. its still too...smooth. or something.
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