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Old 04-02-2012, 01:01 AM   #1
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Looking for an amp for rookies

Recently I got a electric guitar, now I'm looking for amp that is a great starter, budget is under 200 so anything between 100-150 would be acceptable.

Mainly I'm looking for amp that has Overdrive and Distortion channel. I've been looking, no luck so far. I'm not into the pedals, for I got just want an amp with it all rather then buying them separately.

I'm not a expert at electric guitar, so i dont even know if it acutally exist, and if there is none then I guess pedals will do
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Old 04-02-2012, 01:09 AM   #2
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It sounds like to me you want a moddelling amp with DSP. I really don't have a lot of insight into that. This looks like the kind of amp you would want, but I can't attest to its tone at all.

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/ampl...h67603000001000
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Old 04-02-2012, 01:14 AM   #3
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While we are talking about modeling amps, I've heard some really good things about the new Fender Mustang line! Check them out!
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Old 04-02-2012, 01:19 AM   #4
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That's probably a good idea too. I went with the Vox is because it has a tube preamp.
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Old 04-02-2012, 01:22 AM   #5
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It sounds like to me you want a moddelling amp with DSP. I really don't have a lot of insight into that. This looks like the kind of amp you would want, but I can't attest to its tone at all.

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/ampl...h67603000001000



This sounds nice and affordable! One question though, it is user friendly? As in easy for rookies to tune to their liking and jam?






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does it have distortion and overdrive? Also PC editing? remarkable! Affordable as well
and the pedal that switches custom, that is something I need. If it has D/O I'm considering buying this amp
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Old 04-02-2012, 01:23 AM   #6
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What music do you play?
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Old 04-02-2012, 01:29 AM   #7
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What music do you play?


Well as of now only classical rock. Thus why I'm getting an amp so my list can increase with different genres. Mainly my goal is metal, (distortion), dont know what genre overdrive goes in, but theres a song called Europa by Santana that i need for it lol. It doesn't sound right with a clean channel.
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Old 04-02-2012, 01:37 AM   #8
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The Vox has 33 different amp models, so you can think of that as having 33 channels, ranging from clean, to overdrive, to distortion, and probably to insane distortion. It will probably be a pain to figure out how to use compared to most amps that just have 5-10 knobs, but if you can work a computer, you can probably use it.
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Old 04-02-2012, 01:38 AM   #9
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Also, before you just go buy an amp you need to do your research. Look for reviews from people about tone and reliability. If you can, go to a music store and try different amps out, as many as you can.
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This sounds nice and affordable! One question though, it is user friendly? As in easy for rookies to tune to their liking and jam?









does it have distortion and overdrive? Also PC editing? remarkable! Affordable as well
and the pedal that switches custom, that is something I need. If it has D/O I'm considering buying this amp


Wow, wow, wow... Wow. Don't be do quick to jump on it. There are many amps just like this and the Vox that someone recommended to you is also one and in my opinion, having tried both, the Vox sounds better and has a much better sound and more effects.
Anyway, do you not need a clean channel?
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Also, before you just go buy an amp you need to do your research. Look for reviews from people about tone and reliability. If you can, go to a music store and try different amps out, as many as you can.



From what your saying, Distortion and overdrive and more channels can be custom made? rather then easy on/off switches for beginners? well I never personally heard an overdrive amp sound, i can only tell if its distortion, but I have what it takes to make it sound like a custom amp sound of any kind. Again I'm new to amps, I do have one but its rather small and has only clean channel.

mostly i get my reviews from youtube videos or forums. right now Fender Mustang ll is on my mine because its more organized, PC editing too. its looks more simple then Vox. and cheaper on amazon.

but if Vox can have 33 channels....can Fender Mustang as well? or even more? with the pc editing...just wondering
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I believe the channels on the Fender are customizable through the USB editing, so you would be able to have many many channels on the Fender. The channels on these amps though are just replications of other amps. The Vox's 33 amp models are set in stone I believe. There's manuals online, you shouldn't be too intimidated about using the more complicated interface.

What overdrive technically is, is when Tube amps literally become overdriven. They have CRT tubes like in old TV's. And when you turn up the volume too loud, the tube's begin to work harder than they're meant to. This creates a pleasant warm sound similar to distortion, but generally, isn't nearly as strong as distortion. Tube amps are preferred by almost everyone. Amps that we are showing you try to emulate that sound. An all-tube amp with the features you want, is simply out of your price range. However, the Vox actually has one preamp tube. (All-tube amps can have like 8 or more). SO with the Vox, you can create some real authentic tube overdrive, which is what you really want for your overdrive sound.
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From what your saying, Distortion and overdrive and more channels can be custom made? rather then easy on/off switches for beginners? well I never personally heard an overdrive amp sound, i can only tell if its distortion, but I have what it takes to make it sound like a custom amp sound of any kind. Again I'm new to amps, I do have one but its rather small and has only clean channel.

mostly i get my reviews from youtube videos or forums. right now Fender Mustang ll is on my mine because its more organized, PC editing too. its looks more simple then Vox. and cheaper on amazon.

but if Vox can have 33 channels....can Fender Mustang as well? or even more? with the pc editing...just wondering


What do you mean by custom made?
To get overdrive you only need an amp with two channels. Clean and distortion. You just lower the gain on your distortion channel and you get overdrive.
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That's probably a good idea too. I went with the Vox is because it has a tube preamp.

Hate to sound negative, but no.
It's a driver in the power amp.

If you think you're going to want to play metal go for the best Vyper you can afford. If not it's a deathmatch between the Fender Mustang and the Vox VT.
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What do you mean by custom made?
To get overdrive you only need an amp with two channels. Clean and distortion. You just lower the gain on your distortion channel and you get overdrive.




Clean and Distortion? I never knew that thanx!

Also what i meant by custom made...like you said "lowering the gain on your distortion channel" ._. I always thought you need a amp that says the channel- Overdrive, but you proven me wrong.
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Hate to sound negative, but no.
It's a driver in the power amp.

If you think you're going to want to play metal go for the best Vyper you can afford. If not it's a deathmatch between the Fender Mustang and the Vox VT.


I see that now, I should have read more closely. Thanks for pointing out my mistake
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The Vox has a tube in the power amp section. Not the pre-amp. It's kind of a gimmick, but that amp is still way better than most other low-end amplifiers.

The Mustang II sounds so good, the first time I heard one I thought it was a tube amp. The guy playing it was a pro and he's now taking it to gigs instead of his Fender tweed tube amp.

Neither has 33 channels. (Each channel would have it's own controls). Download the manuals, check them out in stores, and decide what you want. Neither of those are oriented toward metal. A Peavey Vypyr might be the amp for you if that's what you want to play.

The Vypyr has a better optional foot controller, too. Don't worry about the number of amps any of them can model--be concerned with whether you like a few of the ones they can do.

Just stay away from anything by Marshall, Line 6, Accoustic, Rogue, Behringer, Bugera, Roland, Rocktron, Ibanez, Randall, Kustom, Raven, or any non-Mustang Fenders in that price range.
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What overdrive technically is, is when Tube amps literally become overdriven. They have CRT tubes like in old TV's. And when you turn up the volume too loud, the tube's begin to work harder than they're meant to. This creates a pleasant warm sound similar to distortion, but generally, isn't nearly as strong as distortion. Tube amps are preferred by almost everyone. Amps that we are showing you try to emulate that sound. An all-tube amp with the features you want, is simply out of your price range. However, the Vox actually has one preamp tube. (All-tube amps can have like 8 or more). SO with the Vox, you can create some real authentic tube overdrive, which is what you really want for your overdrive sound.


I see now, Fender is organized, more channels because its global and you can have as many as you want. USB editing, Allows you to play with your ipod as you play. (Optional)

But now what you said that about Vox and tubes....made me think...Fender might be a amp that has many channels, but its not going to sound as good as Vox with a tube? because they wont make the over-driven sound I'm craving so much?

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