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Music Theory help?
I'm studying for my Theory III final. Sorry, I don't post here much, if this thread is somehow against rules, I'll delete it.
I need to study Modulation via: 1) 2) 3) Enharmonic Reinterpreted 4) Modulation by a Common Tone Number 1 it just modulating using a chord diatonic in both keys. Number 2 I think is using a chord that's diatonic in another key, like if you're in C, you use A7 to modulate to Dm. Number 3 I'm really unsure about. Number 4 I'm guessing is when you find chromatic medians to find a chord in common with another key, and use the common tone to modulate. Any help?
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Judging by the name, Enharmonic Reinterpreted is kind of like #1, but shifting the enharmonics to suit a very distant key.
If you were in the key of B major, on a B/3rd (D#, F#, B), it can be reinterpreted as a Cb/3rd (Eb, Gb, Cb) possibly as the neapolitan of Bb major/minor. No. 4, no need for chromatic mediants. Whatever chords share a tone will suffice.
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Thanks, bro. Would have IM'ed you about it but no more meebo.
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Used all da time by Schubert, Brahms, Wagner, and onward
In fact, happens right around here: youtu.be/I-O8XY17Ej4?t=2m35s Common tone modulation: youtu.be/CR3h78Il5E4?t=6m4s
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The ones my teacher writes aren't as convincing as those.
One last thing, on this sheet of notes that I have, I have "rounded simple ternary" on there. I know simple ternary, but the rounded is throwing me off. Any help there? Quote:
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Not quite sure on this one, and these kinds of formal designations are stupid and useless. But I'm gonna guess that it's an ABA form where the last A is abridged.
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Sounds good enough for me. Appreciate the help.
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that'll be tree fiddy
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I'm pretty sure rounded is when the opening thematic material returns at some point.
Pretty sure, but not definitely sure, that was one of those things I learned a while back and never used, so its pretty much gone now. Xiaoxi hit everything else on the head, no need for anymore input on my part.
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I think number 3 is used with French/German/Italian 6 chords. And any other nationality hahaha
They can be respelled as a V7 chord in another key
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I think enharmonic reinterpretation is basically 'reinterpreting' the notes of a chord, without changing the sound of it, but considering it as the tonic note of the next tonality. Basically, if you're playing a song in C# major, you could write the G# chord (G#-B#-D#) using enharmony (Ab-C-Eb) and use this same chord as the tonic of the new tonality. Hence you modulate from C# major (7#) to Ab major. (4b)
I've just done a couple of research about common-tone modulation and I found this simple, clear explanation: « Typically, a common-tone modulation does not use a pivot chord. Its mechanism is — on the surface — very simple: the listener first hears a chord in an established key; then, one note of that chord is sustained (or simply repeated), while all the other notes in that chord change to a chord in another key. The sustained (or repeated) note, however, also belongs to that new chord — quite often with the aid of an enharmonic change (ie, its name is changed — eg, Ab becomes G#). » |
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Just took the final. My teacher literally hands out the final, assigns a student to watch over the class, and leaves for the whole final. So as soon as he leaves, people start asking each other for help. I got some and think I did alright.
For the enharmonic reinterpretation, we had to modulate from C major to Ab major using a diminished chord, so I chose vii°7/ii and used it as vii°7 to I in a major (which...shit, now I'm realizing I should have wrote in 2nd inversion). There was also another one I had to do like with what ibanezguitar44 said. I used a Bb dominant 7 and enharmonically reinterpreted it as a german to some key I can't remember. Hope I did well.
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