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You sound like one of the whiners he's speaking directly to... Ok, so there aren't enough jobs to go around. SO WHAT? I don't need jobs for everyone, I just need one for me, and to get that I just have to be more marketable than the other guy...and you. FFS! ![]()
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Join Date: Jul 2007
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Jesus, what a ****ing insight. So, to get a job I need to be better than the competition? Well I never. The article gives nothing of any value. Anyway, this stupid right-wing narrative of competition and individualism is short-sighted and unhelpful. If everything is up to the individual, you ignore the broader structural, societal factors that create the conditions which lead to mass unemployment and general unfulfilment. Obviously, at the end of the day, you have to do what you have to do to get ahead, but that's not really any sort of revelation, is it? And yeah, I'm a whiner. In societies of unprecedented abundance and wealth, people are going hungry, and all this tool has to offer is "learn karate. CLOSE!". Cheers.
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Join Date: Jul 2010
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I get it, you don't get it. Get used to masturbating in your mom's basement and wishing things were 'fair'...
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Camden, UK
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Join Date: Nov 2007
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Join Date: Jun 2007
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Not to shut you down. You have great insight that the article lacks, but it doesn't really disprove anything the article says. The author even states in the beginning that the article isn't for everyone.
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Making yourself useful to others isn't limited to jobs and women, but there are a number of ways learning karate can give you more value in the eyes of others, with or without relating it to jobs and women. Quote:
He also mentions if you don't have a selling point you can acquire one through practice. Of course that's not so simple in light of the economy, but he's not addressing people who are having trouble finding work, he is addressing people who are having trouble finding it because of the particular shortcomings he outlines. And again, employment is only one example of success. Quote:
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Can't agree. It had to be general enough so that you could apply the advice to situations beyond employment. The way it was written was extremely powerful for those he intended it to influence. I found it valuable. Of course, when you condense the whole thing into a few words the way you just did, it will seem less valuable, but you're oversimplifying it. Quote:
It wasn't intended as a business article... EDIT: It also seems like you're trying to politicize it more than it was meant to be.
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I liked the last point about haters. No matter what you do, people will queue up to hate.
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The things that you're supposed to sell and "close" is yourself. The reason that the "douchebags" get all the success is because they're able to sell themselves. And I believe you missed the entire point of the article based on the phrase I bolded. The reason to get off your arse and do something is to create selling points for yourself. No one is going to value your ability to be really good at posting on forums and playing video games. The article is targeted at the people who sit around doing nothing and complaining about how they can't get a job. Whether the thing you get off the couch to do is karate, charity work, learning a foreign language, or lifting weights, it's going to make you more sellable to someone. And yes, that actually might be a good business advice article. I've seen tons of small businesses go under in my town because they wait around for people to come buy their product instead of actually selling it to people.
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But that's the point. I can have fertile soil in my back yard, if I don't tend to it, plant things, etc. It won't produce anything. I.E. If I don't get off my ass and do something, it doesn't matter how fertile it is. As the old saying goes: "Actions speak louder than words." Quote:
Well, Karate teaches: Concentration Balance (mental and physical) Control Respect Discipline Humility Goal Orientation Self Confidence All skills that will help you in life and in your career and make you a more valuable asset. Last edited by jugglingfreak : 12-19-2012 at 03:33 PM. |
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I'm bringing this back up because of something I've learned recently, and to ask everybody if who claimed to to work on things, if they actually started working on themselves after this.
What I learned recently was the cold hard truth of nobody gives a shit of what you do. You can work for years on a single thing, and there's always the possibility that nobody will like it. That's what makes art so hard, you have to slave and work for a very long time in order to find out if anybody will ever be willing to put money towards what you do.
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Join Date: Sep 2002
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It's amazing, someone can simply say "work hard to better and distinguish yourself" and someone will complain about the advice.
Do people expect success and an easy life to be handed to them?
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Join Date: May 2008
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read number 1. Dumbest shit I ever read.
Edit and I can guarantee that all these thoughts have already occured to me
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Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Germany
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Yes. People are told that success is nothing but a lotto win, that success is something that comes to the fortunate and lucky. I know this is a weird example, but I've watched several interviews with the developer of Super Meatboy, Edmund McMillen. He said that a lot of his family thinks they just randomly came to money by being lucky, which is simply not true. He stresses that he and his wife were poor as fuck for almost a decade, and that he worked his balls off for a long time in order to make something worth buying, which is why he became successful. EDIT: he also has some wise words about talent: Talent doesn't exist. Nobody is born with the ability to play guitar or whatever. All of that is earned through hard work and dedication. "Lack of talent" is a phrase usually used by people to explain why they don't have to try.
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