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Old 01-24-2013, 10:50 AM   #1
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So...I need a guitar

My previous guitars were a Yamaha Pacifica 112v and after that a used Fender Blacktop Stratocaster that I've sold some days ago. The main issue with those guitars was the sustain, they didn't sustain much, also the pickups on the Blacktop were kinda meh really. And both didn't hold the tuning very well. I want something ''definitive'' in a way, I don't want to buy something and then start modding the thing with better tuners/pick ups etc. The budget is 700/800 euro and i'm willing to go used (actually I'd prefer to buy an used guitar because I'd get more for the money). Things I'd like to have :

- Good Sustain
- Good Tuners
- HSS or HSH pickup configuration
- Preferably a Tele/Strat/Lp shaped guitar
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Old 01-24-2013, 11:01 AM   #2
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Woods? Any pickups you have in mind? Location? Bridge?
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Old 01-24-2013, 12:09 PM   #3
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what amp are you using? that may have some effect

but go play a Les Paul, if that doesn't have enough sustain for you then you'll probably have to get a pedal like a tone bender that really adds a lot of sustain.
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Old 01-24-2013, 12:17 PM   #4
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but go play a Les Paul, if that doesn't have enough sustain for you then you'll probably have to get a pedal like a tone bender that really adds a lot of sustain.

Or a simple compressor pedal.
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Old 01-24-2013, 12:44 PM   #5
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Not all Les Pauls have amazing sustain, it has a lot to do with resonance, body woods, action, neck relief.

The string vibrates, if there's too much relief and the string touches another fret or another part of the guitar, you're shortening the amount of time the string vibrates. I would go for a used Fender American Deluxe, a used unloaded JP6, or a brand new 600 series and up LTD. Go into a shop if you have access to one and play each one of these guitars if they're available, you'll be surprised when a Gibson Les Paul that costs you 2000+ plays like shit and doesn't sustain because of poor set up.
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Old 01-24-2013, 01:06 PM   #6
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I played over a hundred Les Pauls before I found one that was right for me. I found the Standards to be very ordinary in every way. The only ones that had the sustain and feel I wanted were Customs, and older Studios. I have the Studio since 97 and it's a tank, and I've had the Custom since 2004 as my primary and it has been phenomenal. However, I recently got an ESP Horizon II FR, and it is insane with sustain, and the neck is wicked fast; this guitar would need no mod what-so-ever.
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Old 01-24-2013, 01:09 PM   #7
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The budget is 700/800 euro and i'm willing to go used (actually I'd prefer to buy an used guitar because I'd get more for the money). Things I'd like to have :

- Good Sustain
- Good Tuners
- HSS or HSH pickup configuration
- Preferably a Tele/Strat/Lp shaped guitar


In that price range, check out Godins and G&L; excellent guitars.

In the Godins, one bargain you may be able to find is the Velocity. It was discontinued in 2011, but there are still new ones sitting in stores @$850. And used ones in excellent condition can be had for @$500. Other than that, check out the Progressions and the Freeways.
http://godinguitars.com/godinperfseriesp.htm


For G&L, you'd be looking at the Legacy and Invader models.
http://www.glguitars.com/instrument...itars/index.asp


You might also look for the Reverend Double Agent:
http://www.reverendguitars.com/inst...uble-agent-iii/
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Old 01-24-2013, 01:18 PM   #8
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If you think the blacktop pups suck you probably aren't using them for their intended purpose, they sound great with a good clean/light-grit amp or overdriven. They probably aren't very good for low-tuned metal though. I was pretty damn impressed with the blacktop strat pickups, though they did honk a little if the mids on the amp weren't backed off.

Anyhoo, it seems like you could benefit from having your guitar setup properly, it can make all the difference and can help with the sustain. Also if your pickups are too close to the strings the magnets can pull and inhibit sustain.
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Old 01-25-2013, 06:26 AM   #9
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Woods? Any pickups you have in mind? Location? Bridge?


Woods : I'm open to everything except combinations that tend to be too bright (for example : ash + maple neck).
Pickups : I love the Breed in the bridge position.
Location : Italy.
Bridge : Vintage or Hard Tail, I don't want a FR.

My amp is a Laney VH100R by the way.
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Old 02-02-2013, 05:59 PM   #10
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What do you think about a MIM HSS Strat or a MIM Telecaster ? As far as I know the MIM strat has ceramic pups while the MIM Tele has got alnico ones (which I'd prefer); but I don't think there's a MIM Tele with at least 1 humbucker in the bridge, right ?
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