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Old 05-24-2014, 10:36 AM   #1
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Question Is establishing melodies a big part of writing music?

Hey everyone. I own a lot of U2 and Green Day CD's. And I've read the liner notes for every one of those CD's.

In almost all the liner notes, the songwriting credits are denoted as "Lyrics by Bono, Music by U2" or "Lyrics by Billie Joe, Music by Green Day".

When it says "Music by U2"- Does it mean that the band created all the melodies, riffs, hooks, harmonies, and chord progressions while composing the music itself?

In other words- Is developing melodies a large part of writing music?

Thanks guys!
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Old 05-24-2014, 02:44 PM   #2
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I imagine what they mean is that Bono/Billie Joe wrote the lyrics and the vocal melody and everyone kind of wrote around that.
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Old 05-24-2014, 02:59 PM   #3
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Chances are it means that everyone will have had some part in everything, which is normal in a band, likelihood is the singer will have had the biggest part in the melody. Also the lyrics could be written to another band members melody, or another band member wrote the melody after the singer wrote the lyrics.

Developing melody is large part of most music, but it doesn't have to be, do things the way you feel is best.
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Old 05-24-2014, 03:39 PM   #4
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it means - lyrics done by one person (frontman) & music is a collaborative effort (i.e. the entire band)..
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Old 05-26-2014, 10:43 AM   #5
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I'm just curious, guys.

In a band- Does the lyricist usually come up with a melody? Or is it a collaborative effort among all band members while composing the music itself?

Does it really depend on the band?
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Old 05-26-2014, 10:49 AM   #6
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Not only does it depend on the band but it can vary from song to song.
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Old 05-26-2014, 12:51 PM   #7
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Yeah it really depends on the band and the song. In my band with our previous singer, I wrote 5 complete songs, he took the melodies I wrote for it and riffed off of it, meaning he kept the integrity of the vocal melody I wrote but made it his own, fit it to his vocals. He wrote 5 songs too and we wrote 2 songs together where I came up with a riff/chord progression and he came up with the vocal melody and lyrics.

It all depends, there's no cookie cutter mold, it's all about what kind of songwriting you want to do but I would say that vocal melodies are very important in that it's what people instantly recognize and most often is what makes the song. In music you have 3 components: rhythm, harmony (chords/chord progression), and melody. The rhythm and harmony support the melody, but at the same time, the melody fits with the chords and rhythm, they all are an interlocking whole. Once you have all them complimenting each other, you've got strong and good music!

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Old 05-27-2014, 07:29 AM   #8
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Got it spot on. Lyrics includes vocal melodies + actual lyrics themselves and music = backing, other instruments etc. Sometimes a lead singer may write the entire song and just work out the parts for other musicians. Sometimes one of the other band members might write a whole song (including lyrics) which then the lead vocalist will sing. It's because of this that it has to be specified.
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Old 05-29-2014, 02:47 PM   #9
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Hey guys. OP here.

What about a song's chord progressions, rhythm, harmonies, riffs, and hooks?

Are those aspects derived from a melody? Or is it the other way around?
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Old 05-29-2014, 04:34 PM   #10
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Chances are it means that everyone will have had some part in everything, which is normal in a band, likelihood is the singer will have had the biggest part in the melody. Also the lyrics could be written to another band members melody, or another band member wrote the melody after the singer wrote the lyrics.

Developing melody is large part of most music, but it doesn't have to be, do things the way you feel is best.


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Hey guys. OP here.

What about a song's chord progressions, rhythm, harmonies, riffs, and hooks?

Are those aspects derived from a melody? Or is it the other way around?


The melody is usually derived from the chord progression and rhythm. It is possible, however, to create a melody first and then figure out what chords/rhythms are implied by the melody.

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