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Old 12-19-2012, 04:15 PM   #101
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yeah if matchetts has one in stock you could try it. dawsons in bangor (last time i was there, which was a while ago) had a fair few of the cheaper gibsons in stock so might be worth a look, too. I'm not as anti-buying-online as a lot of people, but gibson does have a bit of a rep for all-over-the-place QC. I'm not sure i'd buy a gibson online, in other words.
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Old 12-19-2012, 04:27 PM   #102
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You can't do your own set-ups?

It's not hard to learn. It's doing fretwork that's an issue, even changing the nut shouldn't be beyond your average guitarist...
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Old 12-19-2012, 04:29 PM   #103
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i know pete, he did a great job stoning and polishing the frets on my ibanez a while back. He's a good guy and if you still want it done, get him to do it.

Also, I know for a fact machett's have one of those LP Studio 50s guitars in store; or they did when I was in a couple of weeks ago


Once I get the cash for my guitar I'm for sure gonna give him a call to completely set it up.

Also they do have a 50 tribute in stock, but it has p90s, and I wanted the humbucker model
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Old 12-19-2012, 04:31 PM   #104
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They are hand assembled (or built as this guy put it) but the CNC machines get the wood to the stage where a person can "build" it into a guitar. It makes no sense to have a machine assemble them. Measuring a neck pocket and cutting it in the right place to the right dimensions, depth and is some cases angle is difficult, which is why a machine does it. Putting a machine head into a hole that a computerized machine drilled is not difficult, which is why people do it.

I don't get why people think machines are bad when it comes to making guitars, they are very accurate, consistent and save a lot of time. Even "handmade" stuff is at some degree made with the aid form machines, for example using a machine made neck pocket template.


Exactly man. My Epi was made in china but it is FAR better quality than my Gibson out of the box (in terms of already set up, nice finish, Smooth frets which dont cut my hand etc.) Finish is outstanding and it sounds very good
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Old 12-19-2012, 04:33 PM   #105
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You can't do your own set-ups?

It's not hard to learn. It's doing fretwork that's an issue, even changing the nut shouldn't be beyond your average guitarist...


I understand the concept of setting it up yourself and I can do the practical side of it, but it never translates into results. Like when I first tried to set intonation, moving the saddles back and forth had NO effect on the intonation whatsoever. It just seems to never work for me
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Old 12-19-2012, 04:36 PM   #106
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yeah if matchetts has one in stock you could try it. dawsons in bangor (last time i was there, which was a while ago) had a fair few of the cheaper gibsons in stock so might be worth a look, too. I'm not as anti-buying-online as a lot of people, but gibson does have a bit of a rep for all-over-the-place QC. I'm not sure i'd buy a gibson online, in other words.


Sadly the one they have in stock isn't the humbucker model, it has p90s if they had the one I'm after I would definitely at least go and try It out

And ever since this happened to me I've been reading about issues with brand new gibsons. Very disheartening, I can agree with you on them having a rep regarding QC. Not to say they don't make amazing guitars... Just sometimes
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Old 12-19-2012, 04:39 PM   #107
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I don't understand this whole "traditional" or "handmade" argument. To not take advantage of modern technology and equipment because you like to "hand make" an inconsistent product just because it was how it used to be done doesn't make much sense. They built their guitars back then the way they did because they didn't have access to what is available today, that's it. Too many get all hyped up over this "handmade" thing.
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Old 12-19-2012, 04:47 PM   #108
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You need to check out the threads on Fastfude.org - a NI music forum. You will find luthiers and techs on there. Good friendly community.
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I don't understand this whole "traditional" or "handmade" argument. To not take advantage of modern technology and equipment because you like to "hand make" an inconsistent product just because it was how it used to be done doesn't make much sense. They built their guitars back then the way they did because they didn't have access to what is available today, that's it. Too many get all hyped up over this "handmade" thing.


I guess some people are led to believe that a completely handmade guitar will sound better, and I can't se the logic in that
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You need to check out the threads on Fastfude.org - a NI music forum. You will find luthiers and techs on there. Good friendly community.

Thanks man I'll check that out
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Old 12-19-2012, 05:03 PM   #111
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Sadly the one they have in stock isn't the humbucker model, it has p90s if they had the one I'm after I would definitely at least go and try It out

And ever since this happened to me I've been reading about issues with brand new gibsons. Very disheartening, I can agree with you on them having a rep regarding QC. Not to say they don't make amazing guitars... Just sometimes


ah right. i suppose it'd let you see if yours is a particularly bad one or not. But yeah if you want hums you wouldn't be buying it.

and yeah, that's the problem, i think. if you get a good one it's killer... but (and this is IMO) at the prices they charge, there shouldn't be anywhere near the number of QC problems there seem to be.
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Old 12-19-2012, 05:26 PM   #112
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I understand the concept of setting it up yourself and I can do the practical side of it, but it never translates into results. Like when I first tried to set intonation, moving the saddles back and forth had NO effect on the intonation whatsoever. It just seems to never work for me


That is scientifically impossible, lol

Anyways if you have a decent tuner it's very easy, I can't understand how people can pay for a setup (not that you are) instead of learning how, playing around a bit. Just don't be stupid and you won't hurt anything.
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Old 12-19-2012, 06:17 PM   #113
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That is scientifically impossible, lol

Anyways if you have a decent tuner it's very easy, I can't understand how people can pay for a setup (not that you are) instead of learning how, playing around a bit. Just don't be stupid and you won't hurt anything.


I know it seems extremely simple and it's very easy to do in theory. But I swear to god, when I moved those saddles there was NO intonation change. None at all. I ended up replacing the bridge (the metal retainer wire was rattling and pissing me off anyway) and that solved it and it was very easy to set the intonation.

When I get my new guitar im still gonna pay for a full set up. Just so i can completely rule out the fret buzz being temp and humidity fault
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Old 12-19-2012, 06:19 PM   #114
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ah right. i suppose it'd let you see if yours is a particularly bad one or not. But yeah if you want hums you wouldn't be buying it.

and yeah, that's the problem, i think. if you get a good one it's killer... but (and this is IMO) at the prices they charge, there shouldn't be anywhere near the number of QC problems there seem to be.


It's quite annoying seeing an amazing guitar with all the specs you want then seeing it has mini h buckers or p90s -_-

And I couldn't agree with you more on that second point, but there's many people who disagree and bash you on it
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Old 12-19-2012, 08:58 PM   #115
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^ yeah (though of course the reverse is also true, for people who already have humbuckers having the option of p90s or mini-hums is a bonus).

And agreed regarding gibson. If you're saying, "gibson sucks, even the epiphones are better", then i agree, you're just a hater. But if you're pointing out that there shouldn't really be lemons (or at least, anywhere near the number of lemons) at the prices gibson charges, I don't see why that makes you a hater. Sure, you can try 50 and buy the best one. But (a) you shouldn't have to and (b) that also only really works if you're somewhere with a good enough guitar shop which actually has 50.
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Old 12-20-2012, 08:25 AM   #116
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Had 7 calls about my guitar and amp already! Studio here I come
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