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Old 04-18-2014, 10:29 PM   #3801
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It's a simple fact that distortion + chords with more than three notes don't sound ALL that great, that's ALWAYS been true and always will be.

While this is true to a certain extent, you can work with it and get it to sound "better" rather than "worse".

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Definitely start with a low pass filter, trying out different "fall-off" points and slopes, but if the fizziness persists I'd try different cabs or a different setup with your impulses. I never blend different cabs together because I usually can get where I want with EQing.

Well, here's my "go-to" EQ settings for rhythm guitar. This tends to be good for "meaty" riffs but isn't fairing well with riffs that use extended chord voicings.


So, basic low pass and high pass and some cuts to reduce that "Djent-y" tone (lol). I'm halfway tempted to let the highs roll off later. Thoughts?

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My "magic" metal impulse is Amplitube's Fender Super-Sonic, which sorta weird because it's a V30-loaded open -back 1x12 and that wouldn't be something I'd expect to be awesome for metal, but alas it is.

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I hate to plug my own stuff, but I recently did a Haunted Shores cover full of intricate chord voicings you can check out here.

I wouldn't mind taking an impulse of that cab and posting it if anyone's interested

I'd be interested in that myself. Sounds great. You got grit and cleaner sounding chords, which is kind of what I'm going for here, lol. I mean, I might crank the distortion up a tiny bit, but yeah.
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Old 04-18-2014, 10:55 PM   #3802
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Well, here's my "go-to" EQ settings for rhythm guitar:


So, basic low pass and high pass and some cuts to reduce that "Djent-y" tone (lol). I'm halfway tempted to let the highs roll off later. Thoughts?

I do exactly that, but I additionally take a narrow notch out from the ~250Hz range where things tend to get boxy & muffled. That probably won't help with any fizz problems, but it doesn't hurt to try it anyway :P

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I'd be interested in that myself. Sounds great. You got grit and cleaner sounding chords, which is kind of what I'm going for here, lol. I mean, I might crank the distortion up a tiny bit, but yeah.

Thanks! Here you go: https://www.dropbox.com/s/jkgnv1kp8...c%20Impulse.wav
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Old 04-18-2014, 11:28 PM   #3803
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I do exactly that, but I additionally take a narrow notch out from the ~250Hz range where things tend to get boxy & muffled. That probably won't help with any fizz problems, but it doesn't hurt to try it anyway :P

Good idea. Thanks!

I messed around a bit with my impulses, and it seems to work better if I used higher presence impulses. I was just using the basic one. But I'm getting a clearer sound. Now, to tighten the tone up a bit more!


Awesome! Thanks.
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Old 04-20-2014, 07:50 AM   #3804
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With most tube amps it doesn't seem much of a problem for me, but with VST's it's harder.

I often lessen the gain to the balance point of clear/too-clean.

It's also seems partially psychological. I played some riffs with chords on my guitar, but found it to sound too scruffy. I then handed my guitar over to the other guitarist in my band to listen to it from his perspective and it hardly bothered me at all, especially with the bass playering and drummer playing as well.

You mentioned higher presence impulses.. I also found cutting low and boosting certain upper mids increased the clarity. It's a chord by chord basis though and it depends on which chords you play and where up the neck you play them.
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I'm not someone who thinks pickups are always super integral to your tone, but they can certainly be a factor when it comes to note definition and clarity. It's not a huge difference, but it's noticeable when a pickup is a wee bit too muddy.
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I'm not someone who thinks pickups are always super integral to your tone, but they can certainly be a factor when it comes to note definition and clarity. It's not a huge difference, but it's noticeable when a pickup is a wee bit too muddy.



Definitely makes a difference imo.

It also becomes (obviously) more apparent the louder you play.

When you play soft it's less noticeable, but when you play at "band" volumes there's most definitely a big difference.

I always cut through better, and my guitar seems to have a less broad but more focused sound spectrum wise.

My other bandmember plays an SG with standard pups, and his sound always seems so scratchy and undefined.
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Old 04-20-2014, 08:51 PM   #3807
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So, I plugged the interface in, and I had it recording in Audacity, but the volume was really low. I tried different things, and nothing really worked. Also, how do I get my other things (amp sim, cab sim, effects, etc.) I downloaded to work in Audacity?
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You mentioned higher presence impulses.. I also found cutting low and boosting certain upper mids increased the clarity. It's a chord by chord basis though and it depends on which chords you play and where up the neck you play them.

Well, for the sound I want, I want a fair bit of mids and lows. My bridge pickup is fairly low/mod heavy, so I don't tend to raise those ranges. But I've got the tone pretty much where I want it. I have bite and clarity now, depending on how I play. I've been playing long enough to know that a lot of it is how you play a riff.

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So, I plugged the interface in, and I had it recording in Audacity, but the volume was really low. I tried different things, and nothing really worked. Also, how do I get my other things (amp sim, cab sim, effects, etc.) I downloaded to work in Audacity?

Turn the gain up on the interface until it clips. (There should be a light somewhere on the interface that says it's clipping). Then, turn it down by tiny increments until it's just before where it clips. Then, play a bit and make sure it isn't clipping when you palm mute or whatever and turn it down a tiny bit more if it is.
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