05-10-2013, 04:08 PM
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Okey so i've been trying to learn how to scream properly for a long time now and i can do something that kind of sounds right, but i really don't know what i'm doing or if i'm doing it right. All i know is I start with a low frying noise and then I just push more air to make it higher/louder.
I've posted a link to a short clip below where i'm trying to scream. Can anyone tell me what kind of technique i'm using or if i'm using any kind of technique at all? I should also mention that after about 5 minutes of doing this I can't do it anymore. It doesn't hurt, I just can't do it after a while. vocaroo.com/i/s13QWJiSmd0z any advice on what i can do to improve my screaming is greatly appreciated! thanks! Last edited by shilospink : 05-10-2013 at 04:12 PM. |
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05-10-2013, 10:31 PM
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Sounds to me like you've got a pretty basic fry scream.
 For that, just work on pronunciation, work on raising your soft palette in order to improve the tone. To raise the soft palette, just yawn really big, feel how open and relaxed your throat is? you want it to feel like that when you're screaming. Imagine the sound hitting the roof of your mouth, and bouncing around in your sinuses.
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05-10-2013, 10:36 PM
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Double coz im lazy. One thing that i found out helped me dramatically with distorted singing/melodic growling (both false chord and fry), was taking away anything that wasn't as important as the main factor: Singing. Take away all distortion, all grit, and focus on working out your singing voice. Sing some stuff that has some demanding clean vocals, hell even sing softer and easier stuff like Jason Mraz. I had the same problem, I could really only do it at a certain range, if i tried to go too high or too low with it, I was unable. Once i improved my clean singing, it helped alot. Also, a question of my own: Would anyone happen to know how to explain that crazy ass melodic scream/shriek thing that Travis Ryan of Cattle Decapitation uses?
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05-11-2013, 02:14 AM
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Thanks for the feedback, I'll try and work on that! Is it normal to only be able to fry scream for a shorter period of time when you're just starting out? |
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05-12-2013, 03:53 PM
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it depends on what you mean by shorter - (note that I'm only replying because everyone else seems to be absent, for future reference, don't take my advice).
There is "shorter" as in today you can do it and tomorrow you might not, for no particularly known reason - a la Scowmoo if I'm not mistaken - and then there is "shorter" as in your chords are getting tired, your throat is getting dry and the distortion just won't happen until you rehydrate and get some rest. Which one is yours? Last edited by darktimes1 : 05-12-2013 at 03:55 PM. |
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05-13-2013, 03:58 AM
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thanks for the reply. It's the second one. After screaming for a while I just can't make the distortion happen and it just turns into a "squeek-sound". However, when I was practicing yesterday I seemed to be able to do it for a bit longer.
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05-13-2013, 05:41 AM
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Hey guys, I am wondering if there is actually any difference in technique between these two songs
1) 2) When I am thinking fry scream I am usually thinking the first one by LoG, and that's close to how my scream sounds too. It's a smooth type of screaming, not a lot of yelling character in it. The second one on the other hand sounds pretty different. It's like Phil yells at the mic, I am not sure what he does... Compare what he does before 0:30 (which is what I am asking about) to the scream he does at 0:30 (which is what I know fry scream sounds like). Is this an actual technique or is it studio layering? Also: Quote:
Yes please. I am interested in that too  Have you got any idea how can I do the higher pitch distorted singing like Disturbed for example or Symphony X? I've found a technique that works for the lower distorted singing like Flynn or Corey Taylor for example but I have no idea how to do what I mentioned. Last edited by Sethis : 05-13-2013 at 05:50 AM. |
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05-13-2013, 06:48 PM
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well then I already answered your question there: rest, rehydrate. you're a beginner, don't overdo it and take it easy. stamina is supposed to increase with practice and experience, or so I've heard, not sure, my current technique is different from yours, sorry :P |
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05-16-2013, 01:58 PM
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hey guys, I am screaming for half a year and I decided to make some vocal covers
 please watch it out Last edited by Dear.whoev3r : 05-16-2013 at 02:00 PM. |
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Yesterday, 08:01 PM
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How do you guys usually warm up before doing vocals? I really need to get into the habit of warming up, but I'm not really sure how to warm up
. I usually just drink some water and go at it, but I'm pretty confident I'm not doing everything I should  .
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Yesterday, 10:06 PM
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start with humming scales, always attempting to maximize the buzz feeling in your head.
As you loosen up, move on to light singing all throughout your register. Don't scream until you feel loose. Otherwise, look up warm up techniques for singing on youtube. There are thousands of videos on the subject. Warming up for singing is the same as warming up for screaming. Quick guidelines above. Now for the more physical (the what the hell is happening in my throat part) reasoning for a warm up. Your vocal cords are not a major artery. Blood flow is usually directed to more needed parts of the body. As such, it can take a while for your body to react and get the needed resources to your cords. What this translates to is your voice being lazy and sluggish at first. When screaming, this can lead to damage (minor of course) as your cords are not operating efficiently and may bang into each other. tl;dr: herp derp, physiology suxs, i just go RAWWWWRRRRRR |
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