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Old 05-11-2013, 10:17 AM   #21
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Old 05-11-2013, 10:17 AM   #22
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Old 05-11-2013, 10:55 AM   #23
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well, if you have tools and are handy, i say make a pedalboard fo free and add a 1 spot...spend the money you saved on better pedals.

yes. hate to bash, but almost anything is better than onboard tones from that amp. i see an amp upgrade in your future, it is enivitable just accept it. timeline, 6 months. start saving now.

do not buy behringer pedals. i repeat DO NOT buy behringer pedals. EVER. erase it from this thread.

...if you need cheaper than boss...trying buying used boss.

i would say do you really need the noise gate and a compressor? i think an EQ pedal would work better in combination with the distortion pedal you are about to buy. definitely. will make any pedal sound heavier, or just better.
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Old 05-11-2013, 11:55 AM   #24
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well, if you have tools and are handy, i say make a pedalboard fo free and add a 1 spot...spend the money you saved on better pedals.

yes. hate to bash, but almost anything is better than onboard tones from that amp. i see an amp upgrade in your future, it is enivitable just accept it. timeline, 6 months. start saving now.

do not buy behringer pedals. i repeat DO NOT buy behringer pedals. EVER. erase it from this thread.

...if you need cheaper than boss...trying buying used boss.

i would say do you really need the noise gate and a compressor? i think an EQ pedal would work better in combination with the distortion pedal you are about to buy. definitely. will make any pedal sound heavier, or just better.


I agree with everything you've said there.
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Old 05-11-2013, 02:46 PM   #25
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considering you're in europe, just get a jet city jca50H on thomann. then get the harley benton g212 vintage cabinet. and a speaker cable. that'll come to about 400 or so, if that's ok. but it's a lot cheaper than faffing about with expensive pedals which probably won't do what you want. if you want a boost too (which rarely hurts, it gives you more options if nothing else), just pick up a harley benton vintage overdrive (tubescreamer clone) or digitech bad monkey (glorified tubescreamer) or screamin blues (glorified bd2) on thomann, they're all around 25.
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Old 05-12-2013, 02:16 AM   #26
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If you want a great sound, put the pedals in this order : Compressor, Distortion / Overdrive, Wah wah (option), a 6 band eq or more, Noise Gate, modulation ( Flanger, Chorus, Phaser), Delay/ Echo, reverb, and a sonic Maximizer pedal ( for better definition of treble, mids , bass frequencies and define the effects better)
I use a VHT Valvulator II to lower my impedance in my signal, to not lose definition and to clean up the power going to my pedals to kill hiss or hum.
And if your amp has an effects loop use another sonic maximizer and a noise gate set so it won't kill your signal too soon.

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Old 05-12-2013, 02:19 AM   #27
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Old 05-12-2013, 02:26 AM   #28
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Old 05-12-2013, 04:35 AM   #29
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considering you're in europe, just get a jet city jca50H on thomann. then get the harley benton g212 vintage cabinet. and a speaker cable. that'll come to about 400 or so, if that's ok. but it's a lot cheaper than faffing about with expensive pedals which probably won't do what you want. if you want a boost too (which rarely hurts, it gives you more options if nothing else), just pick up a harley benton vintage overdrive (tubescreamer clone) or digitech bad monkey (glorified tubescreamer) or screamin blues (glorified bd2) on thomann, they're all around 25.

Is the jet city any good for metal though? A bit skeptical about it atm!
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Old 05-12-2013, 08:38 AM   #30
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If you want a great sound, put the pedals in this order : Compressor, Distortion / Overdrive, Wah wah (option), a 6 band eq or more, Noise Gate, modulation ( Flanger, Chorus, Phaser), Delay/ Echo, reverb, and a sonic Maximizer pedal ( for better definition of treble, mids , bass frequencies and define the effects better)
I use a VHT Valvulator II to lower my impedance in my signal, to not lose definition and to clean up the power going to my pedals to kill hiss or hum.
And if your amp has an effects loop use another sonic maximizer and a noise gate set so it won't kill your signal too soon.


He doesn't need at least half of what you said there. And pedals shouldn't be put in that order.
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Is the jet city any good for metal though? A bit skeptical about it atm!


it's a cheaper soldano, what do you think? it's killer for metal (the type of metal i play, anyway, 80s metal and the like).

EDIT: it's also kinda bemusing how you're sceptical about the jet city for metal but were considering a boss metalcore pedal
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it's a cheaper soldano, what do you think? it's killer for metal (the type of metal i play, anyway, 80s metal and the like).

EDIT: it's also kinda bemusing how you're sceptical about the jet city for metal but were considering a boss metalcore pedal

It shows how much of a massive noob I am Been playing combos with no pedals or anything, so that's why I'm here
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Old 05-15-2013, 06:19 AM   #33
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it's a cheaper soldano, what do you think? it's killer for metal (the type of metal i play, anyway, 80s metal and the like).

EDIT: it's also kinda bemusing how you're sceptical about the jet city for metal but were considering a boss metalcore pedal

Been considering the JCA22H & the JCA50H myself recently - I'm mostly 80s rock/metal too, but I noticed they've only got crunch & overdrive channels so I'm sceptical about what they'd be like for cleans (especially at gigging volume).

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Old 05-15-2013, 01:55 PM   #34
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^ i don't gig

cleans are alrightish at low volumes, but yeah i'm guessing not much headroom there. it's killer for 80s rock and metasl, though, and does clean up pretty well with the guitar volume knob.

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no worries, i'm still a noob in most respects
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Old 05-15-2013, 03:12 PM   #35
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cleans are alrightish at low volumes, but yeah i'm guessing not much headroom there. it's killer for 80s rock and metasl, though, and does clean up pretty well with the guitar volume knob.

No worries

Got a couple of things like that I wanna about a couple of amps I'm thinking about, that's one of the favourites though so I thought I'd hijack this thread while the conversation was relevant - may start a thread of my own sometime. I'm guessing the 50w version would probably be the better option for keeping it clean - I can understand that a 20 watt amp would start breaking up earlier, but you'd imagine a 50 watter would be able to stay clean and still beat a drum kit.
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yeah you'd assume so, but i've only tried the 50, so Also, as you said, it's not really a clean channel, more a crunch channel, so too much preamp gain is (I assume) causing the headroom problem as much as too little wattage...
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