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Old 11-08-2012, 02:33 AM   #1
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Pentatonic scales

Can anybody please explain about pentatonic scales and what are its uses ?
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Old 11-08-2012, 03:45 AM   #2
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Can anybody please explain about pentatonic scales and what are its uses ?

The pentatonic scale is a scale consisting of 5 notes. The major pentatonic is the root, the second, the third, the fifth, and the sixth degrees of the major scale. The minor pentatonic is the root, flat third, fourth, fifth, and flat seventh. Your question is far too broad and general for me to say much else.

As for its uses, SOLOS. Look at any Metallica solo. Basically all of them are just the minor pentatonic scale (that's all that Kirk knows )
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Old 11-09-2012, 09:57 AM   #3
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In simpler terms (I hope). There is a scale, a group of notes that fit together that are super pleasing to the ear. This is the major scale. They contain 1 of every note in western music, so C D E F G A B C or C# D# E# F# G# A# B# C# etc. There will always be one of every note, even if you have to make these notes into something else. Like E into E#. You can't have F and F# in the C# major scale. You have to sharpen the E

Within the major scales, there are other scales. You take a few notes from the major scale and it can become a different scale. Like the pentatonic.

Think of this as an analogy. A CD has 8 songs. They are all quite good, some of them are slow, some fast. This is the major scale.

But you're making a mix tape for a party, you only want fast songs so you take 5 of the songs and make it into something that fits your needs. That's the pentatonic scale.

The notes of the major scale that work best for rock & roll has been taken and made into its own scale, with some slight modifications. The modifications are located above by Junior.

You should go to www.justinguitar.com and read a bit about the major scale, or get a teacher.

Its basically just the group of notes that work best with rock and roll from the major scale that have been put into an easily identifiable pattern.
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Old 11-09-2012, 10:37 AM   #5
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Start on C.

Go up a perfect fifth you get G

go up a perfect fifth from there you get D
go up another perfect fifth and you get A
yet another perfect fifth and you get E

C G D A E put them all into one octave and finish with the octave of the root note you get

C D E G A C - five distinct notes (the C appears twice but they are both C so we only count it once) It spans one octave and no step from one note to the next is greater than a minor third and no step is smaller than a major second.

Aside from the unison and the octave the perfect fifth is the most dominant and harmonious note. This is due to the way our brains interpret the physical properties of the sound waves. It's just the way it is.

We also seem to find the easiest steps to sing that of a major second or minor third interval.

So when we have a scale made up of five notes made up of notes that can be a chain of fifths and when organized into a single octave in which each step is a major second or minor third then it is going to be very pleasing to the ear.

These are all retrospective observations though. This is not how the pentatonic was "created". It was never created it was just kind of hit upon. However it was not just some single figure in history that came up with it. It developed in separate cultures around the world and can be found in many many different cultures. It just seems to be a naturally appealling phenomenon to human beings. When we analyse it we can come up with possible reasons for why we find this particularly appealling.

Check out the documentary "How Music Works" - you can find it on youtube I think it's with a guy called Howard Goodall. there are four parts but I think they cover the pentatonic scale in the part on Melody.

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Can anybody please explain about pentatonic scales and what are its uses ?

It's the centre of the rock universe. And blues universe. Learn songs, man.
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Can anybody please explain about pentatonic scales and what are its uses ?


Do you understand all the terms that are being mentioned here?

I don't want us to rush ahead. We're more than happy to answer your questions. If you get what Major thirds, Unison, intervals etc are then we're good to go, otherwise this
is probably close to gibberish.

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And Indian music, too.

Interesting thought: The notes of the pentatonic scale show up in every single culture's indigenous music that's been studied. It appears to be hard-wired into our brain.
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Old 11-09-2012, 04:36 PM   #10
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Any scale with 5 notes. most commonly minor pentatonic and major pentatonic.
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The pentatonic scale is a scale consisting of 5 notes. The major pentatonic is the root, the second, the third, the fifth, and the sixth degrees of the major scale. The minor pentatonic is the root, flat third, fourth, fifth, and flat seventh. Your question is far too broad and general for me to say much else.

As for its uses, SOLOS. Look at any Metallica solo. Basically all of them are just the minor pentatonic scale (that's all that Kirk knows )

Oh yeah? (4:06 -> is the solo)



I know you were joking but just wanted to point out. Also why this Kirk hate? He has played some of the most legendary metal solos. Not the best guitarist but not the worst. I know you were joking but still.

But really, almost any rock solo uses pentatonic scale. AC/DC would have been much better example of pentatonic solos. But there's nothing wrong in using only pentatonic. IMO pentatonic solos sound the most rock. And it's not about what notes you use, it's about how you use them. Give a beginner guitarist the coolest scale ever and it will sound like crap. Give a great guitarist three notes and he will play a mind blowing solo.
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