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Old 01-29-2013, 04:51 PM   #1
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"New Standard Tuning" Songs??

Does anyone know of any songs in "New Standard Tuning". If anyone doesn't know what it is, it's CGDAEG and it's a tuning that Robert Fripp (King Crimson's guitarist) has used apparently since in mid 80s. I've been searching for ages through songs by Robert Fripp since 1985 but I couldn't find any... Any help?
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Old 01-29-2013, 05:08 PM   #2
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Try some cello music. Cello is about the same size as guitar tuned to fifths so you can use their fingerings too. I used to like new standard tuning. Be carefull though - dont stretch too far or you might hurt your wrist.
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Old 01-29-2013, 06:08 PM   #3
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Well that tuning didn't live up to it's name...
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Old 01-29-2013, 06:15 PM   #4
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Well that tuning didn't live up to it's name...

No kidding.
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Old 01-29-2013, 06:23 PM   #5
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I don't think that even Fripp ever used it in his playing...
I hope that I learn to play stuff in that tuning one day.
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Old 01-29-2013, 07:38 PM   #6
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I don't think that even Fripp ever used it in his playing...
I hope that I learn to play stuff in that tuning one day.


How odd. That's like inventing something but never using your invention. Must not be that practical.
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Old 01-29-2013, 07:49 PM   #7
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No Fripp switched entirely to it in 1985 - who told you he didnt use it? Alot of people tab his music for standard tuning because they dont like to tune to fifths but Fripp exclusively played in fifths for many years. I dont know what he is doing now. He wants the name of it changed to somethin else I forget what. He did it to break out of over used cliches. But you can do the same things with string skipping alot in standard tuning. But it does make some VERY pretty chords...
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No Fripp switched entirely to it in 1985 - who told you he didnt use it? Alot of people tab his music for standard tuning because they dont like to tune to fifths but Fripp exclusively played in fifths for many years. I dont know what he is doing now. He wants the name of it changed to somethin else I forget what. He did it to break out of over used cliches. But you can do the same things with string skipping alot in standard tuning. But it does make some VERY pretty chords...



My apologies. Soundsl like something that would be fun to try out.
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Old 01-30-2013, 12:51 AM   #9
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I know a couple of guys who post a lot in the Tabs section of the Recording forum use New Standard, but it's not exactly a common tuning. Personally, I prefer to just use standard tunings, since they make the most sense to me. Going for outlandish tunings always felt gimmicky to me, for whatever reason.
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However, it is very useful for people with big hands to play tuned in fifths, as you can have much more versatility and note range that way.
I guess.
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However, it is very useful for people with big hands to play tuned in fifths, as you can have much more versatility and note range that way.
I guess.

Honestly, I have never met someone who had hands so large that they weren't able to play comfortably in standard tuning on whatever instrument they're using. The idea was for Fripp to challenge himself to break out of chord structures and shapes that he was used to, not something about having Rachmaninoff-sized mammoth smashers.
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^ speaking of mammoth smashers, I believe Holdsy played in 5ths a bit. Especially considering his 4nps playing it made sense. No source or specifics I'm afraid, just heard this years ago.

IIRC Frank Gambale went the other way and tuned some strings closer for denser chord voicings.

Worth pointing out Tom Quayle and Alex Hutchings play in straight 4ths.
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Old 01-31-2013, 05:49 PM   #13
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I like all 4ths the most. You get spoiled by it and dont want to go back. I think extended 4nps scales are easier in standard tuning than 5ths. Because when you slide up your index is positioned right to start the next string.
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