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Old 01-03-2013, 12:06 PM   #1
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crunchy pickup

hey guys, so im still trying to get a wah but ive also been thinkin about my bridge pickup. while i do like it (duncan custom and i swaped the ceramic magnet with an alnico 5) i feel its not exactly what im after. im almost thinknig i want something with not as much output.but i want it to be crunchier sounding. is that making sense? i know what sound is in my head, its just hard to describe. i was amazed with this tone slash had considering he has a relativly low output pickup, but it sounds amazing! i also realize he prob had that marshal cranked. but still. anything out there that is as crunchy as this but not a signature product?

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Old 01-03-2013, 01:30 PM   #2
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yeah lower output normally does mean crunchier (as crunchier tends to mean less compressed), assuming it still has enough output to drive the amp into overdrive.

i'd have said the custom 5 was pretty crunchy- and open-sounding considering how hot it is, though. you might end up on a wild goose chase and not end up with anythign better.

what amp are you using? speakers? guitar?
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Old 01-03-2013, 01:32 PM   #3
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PAF Fred comes to mind.

What's your guitar made of?
What amp do you have?
Budget?
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Old 01-03-2013, 01:37 PM   #4
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gibson explorer, mahogony, egnater vengance
budget id like to keep at around 120$
oh and speaker are 2 texas heats and 2 swamp thangs
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Old 01-03-2013, 01:50 PM   #5
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diggin your setup, man.
from what I've read the Fred works alright with mahogany guitars, look into those.
I ran it through Dimarzio's PU Picker and this came up http://www.dimarzio.com/pickup-picker, might check those out.
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ah right, yeah you have pretty modern-sounding american-voiced speakers there, and neither (especially the swamp thang) is really that crunchy-sounding (especially when you have 4 of them overall).

the speaker clips in my profile were recorded with a custom 5 (as far as i'm aware... i've never actually taken it out to look ) if you want to take a listen. they're terrible, but still. Speakers might be the problem more than the pickups.
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Old 01-03-2013, 04:26 PM   #7
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i refuse to buy v30's. to many people use them. i dont wanna sound like everyone else, plus i think they sound wayyyy to thin and harsh
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Old 01-03-2013, 04:28 PM   #8
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i refuse to buy v30's. to many people use them. i dont wanna sound like everyone else, plus i think they sound wayyyy to thin and harsh

A lot of people usem for a reason, not because it's something fashionable.

But, if you have quarrels with the tone of them, then by all means look for something different. You might like the G12s or the Seventy80s.
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yeah i know haha, i just am not a fan of their sound
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Old 01-03-2013, 04:31 PM   #10
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Honestly, try simply lowering your Custom 5 first. Lower = brighter, softer and less output, which will be what you get by sticking in anything like the FRED or other similar pickups. Then, if that doesn't do it for you, you know you need to go right down to a back-to-basics underwound A2 (as Slash and damn near everybody else uses); SD Seth Lover, Alnico II Pro, Gibson BurstBucker #1 and #2, etc. For something in the middle of the PAF-copies and more modern mid-output humbuckers, try a Pearly Gates. You may also want to experiment with A4 or A3 magnets, as these have more bite to them than A2s without the modern scoop of A5s.
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Old 01-04-2013, 08:35 AM   #11
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i refuse to buy v30's. to many people use them. i dont wanna sound like everyone else, plus i think they sound wayyyy to thin and harsh


i never said you should buy v30s. for crunchy tones i'd be looking at greenbacks or g12h30s (or other manufacturers' variations on that theme).

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Honestly, try simply lowering your Custom 5 first. Lower = brighter, softer and less output, which will be what you get by sticking in anything like the FRED or other similar pickups.


that's also a good idea. always start with the easiest and cheapest fix first
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