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Old 01-12-2016, 06:19 AM   #10281
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yeah, 85mm is more or less a portrait lens.

for future reference just having a longer lens isn't enough, it's about minimum focus distance as well. Macro lenses let you hold your camera like 5 cm away from something as opposed to like 1-2 metres.
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Old 01-12-2016, 06:34 AM   #10282
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Right, I'll bear that in mind, cheers. I thought you could get in right close with the 85 for some reason but I suppose not.

I'm pretty dead set on the Tokina now, been watching a few reviews and I prefer what I've seen to the Nikon 60. So in about half a years time, my setup should be:

Nikon D7200
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Nikkor 70-300 VR
Tokina 100 2.8

Setting me back about 800 after selling off old gear, even less if I sell off a few guitars and shit. All that's really missing from that is a wide lens I guess.
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Old 02-09-2016, 08:04 PM   #10283
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Just installed Magic Lantern firmware on my 700D. As much as I liked all the extra features, I couldn't get on too well with the ML menu.

Ah well, at least I gave it a shot.
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Old 02-09-2016, 09:14 PM   #10284
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Been back into film lately. Fun stuff.
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Old 02-10-2016, 02:26 AM   #10285
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Question that's been plaguing me

Going to Bora Bora in April for a 7-8 day stay in an overwater bungalow.

Do I buy a new camera for it or not? I have a D40

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Old 02-10-2016, 05:25 AM   #10286
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Been back into film lately. Fun stuff.

I think I love using the old cameras most of all, that and savouring each shot, I can't afford to blow through two rolls on the same subject

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Going to Bora Bora in April for a 7-8 day stay in an overwater bungalow.

Do I buy a new camera for it or not? I have a D40


as old as the D40 is its actually a pretty capable camera, what glass do you have?

if you want to do some starry night (low light) shots and/or hope to produce some work you could print a 20x30" of it might be worth an upgrade. If you only want to share photos on the web or makeup a <A4 size photo book you could probably make do, or maybe buy a lens depending what you've got in that department.

if you just want to use the holiday as an excuse to buy a new camera (which is perfectly legitimate as far as I'm concerned ) go get a second hand or Nikon refurbished D7100, its a great great camera and can be had for an absolute steal. It will serve you very well post-trip as well!
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Old 02-10-2016, 06:22 AM   #10287
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Been back into film lately. Fun stuff.


I've tried using film cameras, but I never really saw the appeal to it. I can understand why people love it so much, but it's not for me.
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Old 02-10-2016, 06:52 AM   #10288
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i feel the same way about digital tbh

shit is stupidly expensive
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Old 02-10-2016, 07:07 AM   #10289
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i feel the same way about digital tbh

shit is stupidly expensive



Yes, yes it is.

Looking at a new lens for my Canon, and some of the prices are fucking ridiculous tbh
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Old 02-10-2016, 08:43 AM   #10290
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I think I love using the old cameras most of all, that and savouring each shot, I can't afford to blow through two rolls on the same subject


as old as the D40 is its actually a pretty capable camera, what glass do you have?

if you want to do some starry night (low light) shots and/or hope to produce some work you could print a 20x30" of it might be worth an upgrade. If you only want to share photos on the web or makeup a <A4 size photo book you could probably make do, or maybe buy a lens depending what you've got in that department.

if you just want to use the holiday as an excuse to buy a new camera (which is perfectly legitimate as far as I'm concerned ) go get a second hand or Nikon refurbished D7100, its a great great camera and can be had for an absolute steal. It will serve you very well post-trip as well!


For a reasonable price on a refurbished D7100, what should I expect?

I would like to take the opportunity to get some great photographs, however with that being said -- I'm no photographer and only barely, loosely fit the description of "amateur."

I have that one standard lens that probably most people have. I'm not at home at the moment, so I can't specifically tell you the model, but I'm sure you know better than I do what I'm talking about.
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For a reasonable price on a refurbished D7100, what should I expect?

I would like to take the opportunity to get some great photographs, however with that being said -- I'm no photographer and only barely, loosely fit the description of "amateur."

I have that one standard lens that probably most people have. I'm not at home at the moment, so I can't specifically tell you the model, but I'm sure you know better than I do what I'm talking about.


In my experience, 95% of what makes a great photograph is the person holding the camera.

Brand new prices for the D7100 (in the UK at least) range between 435 - 800 ($635 - $1160) so I'd imagine a refurb would fall somewhere in the middle of those prices.
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Old 02-10-2016, 09:13 AM   #10292
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I would like to take the opportunity to get some great photographs, however with that being said -- I'm no photographer and only barely, loosely fit the description of "amateur."

Just google some basic composition techniques, read about exposure and spend a day or two playing with those settings on the camera, and start taking photos.

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50mm?



I'm thinking of getting my own camera soon. My dad just got a 70D and it ain't too shabby. I miss the 5D so much.
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Old 02-10-2016, 09:13 AM   #10293
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For a reasonable price on a refurbished D7100, what should I expect?

I would like to take the opportunity to get some great photographs, however with that being said -- I'm no photographer and only barely, loosely fit the description of "amateur."

I have that one standard lens that probably most people have. I'm not at home at the moment, so I can't specifically tell you the model, but I'm sure you know better than I do what I'm talking about.

I'll have to dig up the deal but I think they were going for around $500. My memory of these things gets a little skewed because I'm always converting prices to AUD and working out what it might cost to ship and all that garbage...

$500 isn't giving them away, but that's less than a D3300 (Nikon's latest, lowest model DSLR) and the D7100 blows that camera out of the water.

having said that though there's probably a pretty good argument to be made for one of the newer point and shoots that you can get these days. They take great, absolutely printable photos and might work a lot better for you on a holiday and in general as a walkabout camera. Probably looking at similar money, maybe a touch more.

guess it comes down to whether you can see yourself being bitten by the bug down the track or whether you want something that just takes quality pictures that's easy to carry around.
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Just google some basic composition techniques, read about exposure and spend a day or two playing with those settings on the camera, and start taking photos.


50mm?



I'm thinking of getting my own camera soon. My dad just got a 70D and it ain't too shabby. I miss the 5D so much.

I'd probably guess the 18-55mm, 50's have never really come bundled in the digital age
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Just google some basic composition techniques, read about exposure and spend a day or two playing with those settings on the camera, and start taking photos.


50mm?



I'm thinking of getting my own camera soon. My dad just got a 70D and it ain't too shabby. I miss the 5D so much.

I've done this briefly in the past, and yeah, got a lot out of it. In the event I do purchase a new camera, I'd definitely refresh my rudimentary "skills" so as not to go about like a nonce in such a nice area, wasting the utility of the camera.

I'd also probably get a good & appropriate lens to go with it, honestly.

Thanks for the feedback fellas.

Dave: I think that the D7100 seems more up my alley, as I do foresee more future dabbling.
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I've done this briefly in the past, and yeah, got a lot out of it. In the event I do purchase a new camera, I'd definitely refresh my rudimentary "skills" so as not to go about like a nonce in such a nice area, wasting the utility of the camera.

I'd also probably get a good & appropriate lens to go with it, honestly.

Thanks for the feedback fellas.

Dave: I think that the D7100 seems more up my alley, as I do foresee more future dabbling.

cool, with the right lens on it will become a beast wildlife and sports camera, the big thing that lifts it above the 3xxx and 5xxx series cameras is it actually has a proper auto-focusing system. Obviously a DSLR lends itself to versatility though and if you feed it the right glass it will do anything.

which is another bonus, because the D7100 will meter for just about any Nikon lens released since the late 70's, and some of them are fantastic and VERY nicely priced... but that's probably a story for another day :p
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I think the thing that's still appealing to film is that the process is so much more involved when you're taking the shot. When I shoot digital it's nothing for me to fill up a card with 1,000 shots and then have to sift through them.

If I filled up 3 or 4 rolls and at event, I generally come away with a lot more winners. That, and I'm generally a fan of the aesthetic, too.
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I've done this briefly in the past, and yeah, got a lot out of it. In the event I do purchase a new camera, I'd definitely refresh my rudimentary "skills" so as not to go about like a nonce in such a nice area, wasting the utility of the camera.

Don't worry about it, brushing up on this tends to be fast. If you're not comfortable while you're there just shoot in auto and then photoshop later. There's really no wrong here.

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I'd probably guess the 18-55mm, 50's have never really come bundled in the digital age

Yeah that's true.
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I think the thing that's still appealing to film is that the process is so much more involved when you're taking the shot. When I shoot digital it's nothing for me to fill up a card with 1,000 shots and then have to sift through them.

If I filled up 3 or 4 rolls and at event, I generally come away with a lot more winners. That, and I'm generally a fan of the aesthetic, too.

yeah, absolutely

part of that is also having more exposure latitude too I think, its all whole stops on the old film cameras and its no problem. No whirling away on little wheels at 1/3rd stop increments.
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I think the thing that's still appealing to film is that the process is so much more involved when you're taking the shot. When I shoot digital it's nothing for me to fill up a card with 1,000 shots and then have to sift through them.

If I filled up 3 or 4 rolls and at event, I generally come away with a lot more winners. That, and I'm generally a fan of the aesthetic, too.

Yeah, and as a plus I like the simplicity of the process. I understand film photography a lot more than digital. It feels like you're involved with the camera.
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