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Old 01-04-2013, 04:04 PM   #1
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organized guitar noise

What are some nice tricks to make noise with the guitar using feedback, or whatever else there is?

Not just noise, but noise that fits in with the music and is easy to replicate several times (so every time you play a particular song live, it doesn't sound different). Similar to what this band was (in)famous for:

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Old 01-04-2013, 05:35 PM   #2
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Step 1: Set everything at 10
Step 2: Flail around on the fretboard
Step 3: Whammy bar
Step 4: ???
Step 5: Profit!
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Old 01-04-2013, 06:15 PM   #3
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Old 01-04-2013, 06:23 PM   #4
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Step 1: Set everything at 10
Step 2: Flail around on the fretboard
Step 3: Whammy bar
Step 4: ???
Step 5: Profit!


Whoa, I didn't know Kerry King came here.
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Old 01-04-2013, 07:03 PM   #5
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Whoa, I didn't know Kerry King came here.
Couldn't tell by the name?
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Old 01-07-2013, 10:56 AM   #7
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That was helpful
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Old 01-07-2013, 11:36 AM   #8
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That was helpful


So was your original post.
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Really like those Void tracks! Never heard of 'em before, so thanks for the link.

I can't help much with real-time naturally-produced effects. One thing I've done is to hit the guitar neck rapidly, alternating between thumb and first finger with the wrist moving in a trill-like motion. With distortion and amplification you get a building noise which makes a good intro. I used it at the start of my cover of the old Doctor Who theme:

https://soundcloud.com/jehannum/doc...-theme-jehannum
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Old 01-07-2013, 12:05 PM   #10
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Old 01-07-2013, 12:59 PM   #11
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So was your original post.


I admit I should've posted more examples to illustrate. I apologize. Also, I don't have a guitar with a whammy bar yet, so no divebombs for me, haha. An example would be this:

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But I already know how to do that.

A couple others...

The intro does a bit with the feedback, though a bit more sporadic than I meant, but the noise seems to sound the same every time:



The very beginning, that "whistling noise":

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I'll look into my old tunes and see if I can dig up some other example(s). But basically anything noisy that can be made several times sounding the same, or nearly the same... For me, it just seems that whenever I try to use feedback as an effect, it either doesn't sound the same twice, doesn't come out loud enough, or just doesn't come out when I want it to and I just get awkward silence.

I'll check out that digitec whammy, though.

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Really like those Void tracks! Never heard of 'em before, so thanks for the link.

I can't help much with real-time naturally-produced effects. One thing I've done is to hit the guitar neck rapidly, alternating between thumb and first finger with the wrist moving in a trill-like motion. With distortion and amplification you get a building noise which makes a good intro. I used it at the start of my cover of the old Doctor Who theme:

https://soundcloud.com/jehannum/doc...-theme-jehannum


Yeah Void is one of my favorite punk bands hands down. Really cool cover you've got there! So thumb and first finger of your right/strumming hand, I presume?

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Yeah Void is one of my favorite punk bands hands down. Really cool cover you've got there! So thumb and first finger of your right/strumming hand, I presume?


No. I should have specified. I used the fretting hand; near the nut. I suppose you could use the picking hand to free up the fretting hand. I might give it a try!
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No. I should have specified. I used the fretting hand; near the nut. I suppose you could use the picking hand to free up the fretting hand. I might give it a try!


Oh, ok I get what you meant now. I'll give that a try! Thanks.
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I was trying something like that with my strat earlier. To get the whistle I found it happened on the bridge pickup consistently after strumming the treble strings, but you have to pull away quickly or it just squeals painfully. The same for lower pitch on the bass strings. Obviously, if you want to regulate it then use the whammy.
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Old 01-08-2013, 11:28 AM   #15
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I was trying something like that with my strat earlier. To get the whistle I found it happened on the bridge pickup consistently after strumming the treble strings, but you have to pull away quickly or it just squeals painfully. The same for lower pitch on the bass strings. Obviously, if you want to regulate it then use the whammy.


So you strum and quickly pull your right hand away and turn up the volume?
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So you strum and quickly pull your right hand away and turn up the volume?

Pretty much, though you can start with the volume on high; it shouldn't feedback unless you go out of your way to make it do so. The only reason you really need to move your hand away is to twiddle with the controls or use the whammy. Doing natural harmonics on the twelfth fret helps a lot I find.
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Old 01-08-2013, 06:38 PM   #17
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Pretty much, though you can start with the volume on high; it shouldn't feedback unless you go out of your way to make it do so. The only reason you really need to move your hand away is to twiddle with the controls or use the whammy. Doing natural harmonics on the twelfth fret helps a lot I find.


Ok. I don't have a whammy bar, but I can still play around with it. I saw this neat video on a trick Satch uses:



Will give this a try too.
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What guitar do you want to use it with? If its a guitar with a regular strat like bridge, you can slightly bend the pitch by lifting the back of the area; you can get a whammy online for very cheap on eBay too.
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What guitar do you want to use it with? If its a guitar with a regular strat like bridge, you can slightly bend the pitch by lifting the back of the area; you can get a whammy online for very cheap on eBay too.




Same guitar as mine. No whammy bar, no strat-like bridge, unfortunately. I'm deciding whether I'll switch to bass or sell this one and get a strat (it's just so much better for funk and jazz, which is what I'm most interested in lately).
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Hmm...have you tried behind the nut bending? It produces the same effect as the whammy, but I'm not sure if it would with feedback.
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