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Old 03-27-2013, 01:34 PM   #21
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Let's simplify this.

Do what you want.

You've been given advice, it's up to you to either follow or ignore it.


I can't ask questions about the advice? Geez bro get off your period.
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Old 03-27-2013, 01:37 PM   #22
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The 100W is just an even bigger practice amp. The Tube has a power amp used by pros the world over. Why is this so hard for you to grasp?
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Old 03-27-2013, 02:27 PM   #23
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The tube will comfortably compete with a drummer; the solid state, even the 212, will not.

End of story, if you want to play with a drummer you need the tube.

Buy the Tube 60 combo, GC have them new at $380, used at $300, and CL may offer some even cheaper prices but no returns policy
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Old 03-27-2013, 03:02 PM   #24
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311 has some decent demos, it's true.

However I don't really like the delays in front of the Vypyr's dirty models. That's something you need to try for yourself.
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Old 03-27-2013, 10:37 PM   #25
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Old 03-28-2013, 11:55 PM   #26
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The 100W is just an even bigger practice amp. The Tube has a power amp used by pros the world over. Why is this so hard for you to grasp?


Okay got it. Thanks to yours and everyone's advice in this thread, it's appreciated.
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Old 03-29-2013, 12:11 AM   #27
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Personally, I'd go for for the 120 - but my drummer is very loud. That's a real, full blown 6505 power amp, not the baby 6505. The 60 is still good but I'd want the extra headroom for when I'm playing clean.
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Old 03-29-2013, 05:05 AM   #28
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Because competing with a drummer with a 75W solid state is like pissing in the ocean. With the tube you actually will hear yourself, as will the rest if the band


Have owned 75W Vypyr, can confirm.

Although I can and do play with a drummer with my Vypyr, I have trouble believing it's a 6505 power amp. I've owned a 5150, own a JSX now... my JSX easily drowns out my Vypyr. And the 5150 I had was one of the loudest, most gut rattling amp I've ever come into contact with. I'm not sure how much the preamp contributes in conjunction with the power amp, but it's definitely not ****ing ball massaging like a real 5150/6505 is.

Though the discrepancies are pretty moot - as I said, I can and do play my Vypyr 120H with a drummer.
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Old 03-29-2013, 08:05 AM   #29
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Let's simplify this.

Do what you want.

You've been given advice, it's up to you to either follow or ignore it.

Or maybe he doesn't understand what a 6505power amp is, and is asking for it to be explained.
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Old 03-29-2013, 08:09 AM   #30
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The 100W is just an even bigger practice amp. The Tube has a power amp used by pros the world over. Why is this so hard for you to grasp?


Jesus Christ, what is about Peavey Vypyr 60's that turn some people into touchy bitches?

Did you ever stop and think that he has no idea what a 6505 power amp is and needed it explained, not having isn't it obvious repeated to him?

Normally you are a helpful guy Cath, not in this thread. Go chase some kids off your lawn or something :p
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Old 03-29-2013, 09:51 AM   #31
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Have owned 75W Vypyr, can confirm.

Although I can and do play with a drummer with my Vypyr, I have trouble believing it's a 6505 power amp. I've owned a 5150, own a JSX now... my JSX easily drowns out my Vypyr. And the 5150 I had was one of the loudest, most gut rattling amp I've ever come into contact with. I'm not sure how much the preamp contributes in conjunction with the power amp, but it's definitely not ****ing ball massaging like a real 5150/6505 is.

Though the discrepancies are pretty moot - as I said, I can and do play my Vypyr 120H with a drummer.


Speaker differences perhaps?


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Or maybe he doesn't understand what a 6505power amp is, and is asking for it to be explained.


Then maybe you should explain it instead of ragging on Cath and myself?

His posts were argumentative, my response stands.
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Old 03-29-2013, 10:54 AM   #32
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His posts were argumentative, my response stands.


My posts they were mostly questioning whether people who responded were basing their opinion of personal experience of the two amps (SS vs hybrid tube 60) or simply guessing or using hearsay. With guitar gear I find there are a lot of opinions based on guesses or on what they've heard other people say rather than actual experience. I was just trying to get clarification.
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Old 03-29-2013, 11:05 AM   #33
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My posts they were mostly questioning whether people who responded were basing their opinion of personal experience of the two amps (SS vs hybrid tube 60) or simply guessing or using hearsay. With guitar gear I find there are a lot of opinions based on guesses or on what they've heard other people say rather than actual experience. I was just trying to get clarification.


Fair enough, it didn't come across that way to me but if that was your intent then my bad.

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Old 03-30-2013, 08:26 PM   #34
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Speaker differences perhaps?




Then maybe you should explain it instead of ragging on Cath and myself?

His posts were argumentative, my response stands.


That's ragging? Going to need a thicker skin kid, life's going to be rough if that is ragging. Again, what is about this amp that attracts such sensitive souls.

I didn't answer it because I am not sure myself. But I didn't keep saying it's obvious over and over when it clearly wasn't to the asker.

Sorry if this is "ragging"
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That's ragging? Going to need a thicker skin kid, life's going to be rough if that is ragging. Again, what is about this amp that attracts such sensitive souls.

I didn't answer it because I am not sure myself. But I didn't keep saying it's obvious over and over when it clearly wasn't to the asker.

Sorry if this is "ragging"


Wow. This post really contributed...


Offworld- keep in mind yours is a 60. It would be base off of the 6505 112. Might have a different volume taper as well. Could explain a little. Maybe later I'll see what I can dig up as far as the schematics go.
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It was straightforward answer and a simple google of 6505 would have clarified it. He wasn't offended so what's your beef? **** off and get off my lawn, precious.
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Old 03-30-2013, 09:37 PM   #37
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That's ragging? Going to need a thicker skin kid, life's going to be rough if that is ragging. Again, what is about this amp that attracts such sensitive souls.

I didn't answer it because I am not sure myself. But I didn't keep saying it's obvious over and over when it clearly wasn't to the asker.

Sorry if this is "ragging"


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Old 03-30-2013, 09:39 PM   #38
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Been a while since anybody's called you a kid, huh?
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Been a while since anybody's called you a kid, huh?


Longer than I want to admit!

Doesn't matter, shows me the character of the respondent for future reference.
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