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Old 01-08-2013, 01:05 AM   #22
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Meph, all notes are in all keys. It just depends on how they sound in that key, and how they sound with other notes in that key. Just got to make sure the tonic is the key!
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Old 01-08-2013, 06:01 AM   #23
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Yeah I know that, it's just that not all notes will sound pleasing, and I think there will be a lot of trial and error, it may be beneficial or it may not be.

I've jammed with people who have never learned a scale and I couldn't say that they sound free of them, if anything they sound restricted by not really knowing what they're doing. Perhaps if they were a bit more open to trying to get more ideas onto the fretboard then they might do a lot better.

On the other hand, if you know the theory and want to work out a lick from say, Voodoo Child, you'll be able to work it out quite quickly by knowing that Hendrix used the blues scale all the time.
And then can further move it around the other positions.

People who know some scales but wouldn't know any theory can be excellent guitarists, in my experience.
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Old 01-08-2013, 05:28 PM   #24
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This isn't an issue of knowing theory it's an issue of having a musically developed ear, in which case, it wouldn't really matter if you identified knowing scale shapes, because you'd already understand those sounds be able to reproduce it. Still, go learn your scales, but if your ear is shit it's not going to help anybody.
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Old 01-08-2013, 05:50 PM   #25
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Originally Posted by Mephaphil

People who know some scales but wouldn't know any theory can be excellent guitarists, in my experience.

I've met a lot of guitarists but none of them fit this and assuming they could be excellent guitarists its going to take a lot longer than someone who already knows their stuff. I mean give me a disassembled Chevy and after enough experimenting for months/years I'll have a functioning ride... or I could pick up a haynes manual, learn about it and be done in a week.
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