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Old 01-01-2013, 05:31 PM   #1
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Need help with action on bass

Hi guys, got an issue with my bass.

Here's the situation. I recently moved internationally and the moving company insisted I buy a hard case for the bass, so I said "**** it" and just removed the neck and shipped it as parts.

When I put it back together, the action is now ridiculously high, about .6cm at the 12th fret. The action was kind of high before but not this bad. No idea why it would change so drastically and I don't think it's the weather as I'm now living in the same city where I bought the bass.

When the neck was off, I noticed that there was a shim on the neck. The saddles are also pretty much as low as they can go.

I don't think it's the truss rod as when I check the neck by depressing the first and 15th frets it looks fine, just a little bit of space where it should be.

I was thinking of adding another shim but figured I'd run this by the experts first!

The bass is an '80's Aria Pro II "The Cat Bass." Got it used when I was in college and haven't had any issued with it till now

Any advice appreciated, thanks!

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Old 01-01-2013, 07:07 PM   #2
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This is a common issue when guitars and bass bodies are separated from the neck. Since the tension is off things tend to move due to vibrations.

What I would do is a complete set up as if you just got it. I would check the saddles first and foremost as they are the first to get wonky from vibrations.

Also there may have been a shim in the neck joint that you didn't notice.
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Old 01-01-2013, 07:13 PM   #3
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This is a common issue when guitars and bass bodies are separated from the neck. Since the tension is off things tend to move due to vibrations.

What I would do is a complete set up as if you just got it. I would check the saddles first and foremost as they are the first to get wonky from vibrations.

Also there may have been a shim in the neck joint that you didn't notice.


Hi

I did see a shim. I was thinking of adding another one as the saddles are already pretty much as low as they can go.
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Old 01-01-2013, 07:20 PM   #4
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Are you sure you put the shim in the right place. It would normally go closest to the body.
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Old 01-01-2013, 07:26 PM   #5
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Are you sure you put the shim in the right place. It would normally go closest to the body.


It was glued on. I didn't move it. I was thinking of making it a little higher.
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Old 01-01-2013, 07:30 PM   #6
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For shits and giggles how much of a bow does the neck have?

I know for my Kramer Striker 100st I had to shim the hell out of that thing.
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Old 01-01-2013, 07:34 PM   #7
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The shim has to just in the precise right place.

I had a shim in a Bass, removed the neck for some servicing work. Getting the thing back together was an issue.

So if the neck looks straight then it is the Shim, it can be nothing else.
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Old 01-01-2013, 07:53 PM   #8
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For shits and giggles how much of a bow does the neck have?

I know for my Kramer Striker 100st I had to shim the hell out of that thing.


Not much, if I hold the 1st and 15th frets it's about enough to slide a business card through, the same way I set up my guitars.

I'll try adding more shim and see what happens.
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Old 01-01-2013, 08:53 PM   #9
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Also, when tightening the screws, approach them like you are tightening a drum head. Get the matching/mating pressure as even as possilbe.

By the way 6cm is crazy, we are assuming you mean 6mm.
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Old 01-01-2013, 08:58 PM   #10
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Also, when tightening the screws, approach them like you are tightening a drum head. Get the matching/mating pressure as even as possilbe.

By the way 6cm is crazy, we are assuming you mean 6mm.


Yeah I was having trouble with the screws at first...wishing I'd just spent the $100 on a hard case at this point!

BTW I said .6cm, so same as 6mm.
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Patience. It took me about 5 tries due to my inexperience.


BTW is the Huge Guy from the "Boondock Saints'?

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Old 01-01-2013, 10:48 PM   #12
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Patience. It took me about 5 tries due to my inexperience.


BTW is the Huge Guy from the "Boondock Saints'?

"...cause being they were crushed to death by a really huge guy." - Willem Defoe as Spec. Agent Smecker, Police Station office Scene.


NP, I'll update this thread once I get it straight.

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Old 01-01-2013, 11:14 PM   #13
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Hi guys, got an issue with my bass.

Here's the situation. I recently moved internationally and the moving company insisted I buy a hard case for the bass, so I said "**** it" and just removed the neck and shipped it as parts.

When I put it back together, the action is now ridiculously high, about .6cm at the 12th fret. The action was kind of high before but not this bad. No idea why it would change so drastically and I don't think it's the weather as I'm now living in the same city where I bought the bass.

When the neck was off, I noticed that there was a shim on the neck. The saddles are also pretty much as low as they can go.

I don't think it's the truss rod as when I check the neck by depressing the first and 15th frets it looks fine, just a little bit of space where it should be.

I was thinking of adding another shim but figured I'd run this by the experts first!

The bass is an '80's Aria Pro II "The Cat Bass." Got it used when I was in college and haven't had any issued with it till now

Any advice appreciated, thanks!


You haven't said if the neck is bowed.
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This is a common issue when guitars and bass bodies are separated from the neck. Since the tension is off things tend to move due to vibrations.

What I would do is a complete set up as if you just got it. I would check the saddles first and foremost as they are the first to get wonky from vibrations.

Also there may have been a shim in the neck joint that you didn't notice.


When you relax pressure (slacken the strings) the neck usually moves outwards.
I've lived abroad and returned and each time I've taken my Stingray 5 and G&L L2500 apart plus as I purchased my Stingray in the US and stripped it so that it fitted my suitcases to bring back to the UK it has been stripped 3 times and reassembled without any problems at all.
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Old 01-01-2013, 11:26 PM   #15
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You haven't said if the neck is bowed.


Not any more than normal. That's why I am stumped.

Going to bed soon, will look at the bass again within the next couple of days.
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Old 03-29-2013, 07:13 PM   #16
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Took me a little longer to get to this than I planned. I added another shim and it's pretty much back to the way it was before. I only had to adjust the intonation on the G string.
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