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Old 01-28-2013, 12:47 PM   #141
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Wouldn't that go back to how it sounds? If it sucks sound wise, then no amount of looks is going to make a difference. I have no idea how it sounds. If it is 3k, then yeah, it had better sound like angels singing. I don't get what looks have to do with it.



It doesn't sound like a 3K amp. It looks like poop.

I mean in that price get a Diezel VH4 for christs sake.

For less than 1/3 of the price you can get a better sounding Hybris.



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Old 01-28-2013, 01:13 PM   #142
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It doesn't sound like a 3K amp. It looks like poop.

I mean in that price get a Diezel VH4 for christs sake.

For less than 1/3 of the price you can get a better sounding Hybris.



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Then those are valid reasons to say, forget it.

But looks? Nah.
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Old 01-28-2013, 01:29 PM   #143
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I am sure they will be a good deal when they are used. Expect to see them spray painted and de-badged.
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Old 01-28-2013, 02:25 PM   #144
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If your audience is staring at your rig, maybe that is a commentary on your playing?


I'm not saying your can't have both. I'm not saying you shouldn't go for both. But for me, tone is what is more important.

Your amp is a stage prop. Why wouldn't you want a good looking (or at least not embarassing) prop? And I said you may buy it anyway if it sounds good.
It's not just ugly it looks tacky, like something you'd buy at Toys 'R' Us. I can appreciate non-conventional but that just looks childish.
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Old 01-28-2013, 03:02 PM   #145
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Your amp is a stage prop.


I guess. I look at the player, so I can see if there is anything to learn. Maybe that's just me.


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Why wouldn't you want a good looking (or at least not embarassing) prop? And I said you may buy it anyway if it sounds good.


I want people looking ME! My playing should have them focused on me. Not my amp. Mind you, I use a small combo and a Wah. Maybe I'm not showy enough.

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It's not just ugly it looks tacky, like something you'd buy at Toys 'R' Us. I can appreciate non-conventional but that just looks childish.


Agreed. It does look bad. I haven't heard a sound clip yet, but I imagine it's not great. I appreciate Gates as a player. He tone is barely passable to me. Is it the ridiculous compression? Or the ridiculous gain?
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Old 01-28-2013, 03:26 PM   #146
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There's maybe 0.5% of people in the audience that would recognise good playing if it crawled up their arse and bit them. You're putting on a show, not just showing off how well you can play. A show is a combination of many elements that all combine to entertain an audience. The element contributed by having that amp behind you is saying, "I'm a juvenile douche."
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Old 01-28-2013, 05:31 PM   #147
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I just realized that James Brown is the guy behind the original 5150 and JSX, some of the most popular amps around here. He made good amps for EVH and Satriani, I don't doubt that he'll do the same for Syn and Schecter. Who knows, everyone might be playing the Asian versions of these amps in a few years.
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Old 01-28-2013, 07:43 PM   #148
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I guess. I look at the player, so I can see if there is anything to learn. Maybe that's just me.




I want people looking ME! My playing should have them focused on me. Not my amp. Mind you, I use a small combo and a Wah. Maybe I'm not showy enough.



Agreed. It does look bad. I haven't heard a sound clip yet, but I imagine it's not great. I appreciate Gates as a player. He tone is barely passable to me. Is it the ridiculous compression? Or the ridiculous gain?


Stage Pressence is a huge factor though. The reason people dress up like badasses to put on a concert is it makes them feel like badasses and confidence leads to better playing and a better show. If the amp doesn't look good then it's could effect your confidence. Seems stupid I know but the littlest things are what get stuck in your mind.

If anyone plays golf you might know how one bad put can turn into an entire bad round if you can't drive it from your mind afterwards.

That said I agree that sound > looks, but for the money why not have both?
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Old 01-28-2013, 09:03 PM   #149
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That said I agree that sound > looks, but for the money why not have both?


If you're pawning your left leg for a signature amp, why can't it look and sound good?

Why should your amp need to look so bad that the audience would be forced to look at you? That doesn't say very much of the performer's stage presence.
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As Cath said, 95% of the audience won't know good tone from bad tone, so they will judge accordingly on the look of you/your gear.
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Old 01-28-2013, 10:26 PM   #151
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I just realized that James Brown is the guy behind the original 5150 and JSX, some of the most popular amps around here. He made good amps for EVH and Satriani, I don't doubt that he'll do the same for Syn and Schecter. Who knows, everyone might be playing the Asian versions of these amps in a few years.


Eh.... its not bad, just not good enough. I still want to play one myself but I certainly heard it enough the last 4 days at NAMM.

Too expensive.

I wouldn't buy an amp that looked that horrible. Maybe its Jersey Shore thing?
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Old 01-28-2013, 11:14 PM   #152
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Stage Pressence is a huge factor though. The reason people dress up like badasses to put on a concert is it makes them feel like badasses and confidence leads to better playing and a better show. If the amp doesn't look good then it's could effect your confidence. Seems stupid I know but the littlest things are what get stuck in your mind.

If anyone plays golf you might know how one bad put can turn into an entire bad round if you can't drive it from your mind afterwards.

That said I agree that sound > looks, but for the money why not have both?

who gets self conscious over what their amp looks like?
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Old 01-29-2013, 12:49 AM   #153
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If I'm going to buy an amp designed by child labour I don't expect to pay $3k for it. If they are going to cut their costs by employing 14 yo kids I want to see those savings passed on to the customer.
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Old 03-10-2014, 09:14 PM   #154
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Had the amp out of the box for an hour before it stopped working and smelled like burning. Sounded good before that happened though.
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i mean, look at every member of A7X. i think syn is one of the best metal players alive right now, and i do like some of thier music, but i think a bit of their appearance is kinda "glam".

i mean, look at their guitars, thier general marketing, etc. this amp is right on the money for them. i mean, if this amp looks exactly like an A7X amp should. slightly tacky, slightly hardcore, slightly distastful in an over-the-top mainstream sense, and capable of pulling off syns weird yet awesome lead tones.
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Yeah but for that money I could buy a CEC Brigand or a Rhodes Gemini or a fully loaded RM100 or a Mesa Mark V or a Recto - or three Hybrises. It's ugly and it smells bad.
It's a no brainer. Why would I buy some ugly, overpriced piece of Chinese junk when I can have one of those for the same or less? ^
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i mean did you read my post? i am basically dissing the band and this amp....but the amp is perfect for the player.

...despite the fact that i just spent the last 1.5 hrs playing A7X. cause the riffage and leads are just pure guitar glory. unforunately, i think the lyrics etc are a bit cheesey.
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Yeah, I did. What I said still stands on it's merits. If you want tacky stage gimickry you could always do this too and still have a quality amp underneath.






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Old 03-10-2014, 11:33 PM   #159
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2600 for the Chinese version? 3700 for the USA version....WTF?????
I'd never pay that much for a chinese amp. The Egantor Tourmaster was too much at 1600.

There are so many other great amps out there for less.
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The prices on Schecters website are MSRP. Keep in mind, that means the real price can drop by as much as half, MSRP is a shitty marketing ploy to say "oh look! You could be paying this! But we're only making you pay this much! Buy from us because we offer great prices!", meanwhile the distributors acquire these pieces of gear for 1/2 or even 1/3rd the price any of us pay for it new.

They're going on a few different websites for $2,600 by the for the USA models. A bit expensive, but not as bad as it seems.
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