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Old 04-15-2013, 08:28 PM   #1
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Sweeping Finger Placement

I'm trying to get some different sweeping patterns down and I'm not sure which fingers should play which notes in the following:

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---------------------13h17p13-----------------| -----------------15--------------15-------------| -------------14----------------------14---------| ---------15------------------------------15~---| -----17------------------------------------------| --------------------------------------------------|


I've been using my index and middle finger for the 2nd through 4th notes but it doesn't seem like I can jump up to the 4th note fast enough by just using the 2 fingers. Any suggestions on the proper way this should be played?
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Old 04-15-2013, 08:42 PM   #2
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Exactly the way you described. Make your movements more efficient and you'll get more speed out of it.

I've seen it done with the fourth note played with the ring finger but only ever by one person so I'm not convinced that's actually a good way of doing it. Possible... but I would concentrate on improving your technique before trying to find a band-aid for a bigger problem.
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Old 04-16-2013, 12:42 AM   #3
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This is how i would play it..

e|---------------------------------Index
B|------------------------Middle
G|----------------Index
D|-------Middle
A|Pinky
E|

When i first started 5 string sweeping i would've used my ring finger on the 17th fret but i wouldn't suggest it. I decided to make a change after not too long of sweeper and it felt so much better.

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That sweep pattern is probably the most generic and overused sweep in existance by the way. Just pointing that out. So if you're looking for some originality or something a little different then steer far away from that pattern because EVERYONE uses it. Myself included. I wish i didn't ;(
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Old 04-16-2013, 05:13 PM   #4
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Thanks a ton guys. I really appreciate the help. I'm only using this particular sweep pattern for practicing so no worries on the originality aspect of things. If you have any other sweep patterns that you think are cool and want to share, feel free!
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Old 04-16-2013, 05:14 PM   #5
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Originality is overrated anyway.
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Old 04-16-2013, 09:27 PM   #6
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That sweep pattern is probably the most generic and overused sweep in existance by the way. Just pointing that out. So if you're looking for some originality or something a little different then steer far away from that pattern because EVERYONE uses it. Myself included. I wish i didn't ;(


Thats not how you should look at it. Sweep patterns can only be tools and and the arpeggios canīt make sense without the musical context you are using them in. Saying one of the 3 inversions is overused is like saying this chord voicing is overused. It makes no sense.
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Old 04-16-2013, 10:17 PM   #7
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I personally sweep using my pinky for the 17th fret on the high E string and my ring finger for the 17th fret on the A string.

Why?

Try standing up and sweeping that shape using your pinky. I find that shape very difficult to perform comfortably standing up using my pinky especially when you start reaching the higher frets.

That however only applies to the higher frets.

Honestly I'm nowhere near as technically advanced as other people on this forum but I can tell you that the only truth that you will find among the majority of shredders is that they all enjoyed the guitar very much and they all practiced slowly.

Take that phrase and apply it focusing more on sound than technique.

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Old 04-17-2013, 09:14 AM   #8
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^ Seems like your hand might not be at the optimal angle when standing up if you can reach the 17th fret with the ring finger but not the pinky. Then again, everyone's different physically but I still find that odd.

I'd try to use the pinky for the higher notes, as the highest note on the A string can be pulled off to the 12th fret of the A string for another note (meaning you can play the sweep in sextuplets) which you might come across when learning songs.

On the point of this shape being "overused", that means it's very useful to learn it if you plan to learn songs with sweeping in - Odds are they're use this or a variant of this shape.
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Old 04-17-2013, 11:41 AM   #9
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I will make no argument that the angle of the guitar while standing up doesn't also affect how far up you can reach. I also agree with you that everyone needs to find what works for them since we are all biologically different. (Different reach, hand size, etc...)

If anything OP you need to experiment yourself to find what is most comfortable to you.

If you focus on tone and comfort then the technique will find itself. You will find that no virtuoso guitar player has the same technique as other guitar players. It's just another one of those things that allows us to be unique.
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I will make no argument that the angle of the guitar while standing up doesn't also affect how far up you can reach. I also agree with you that everyone needs to find what works for them since we are all biologically different. (Different reach, hand size, etc...)

If anything OP you need to experiment yourself to find what is most comfortable to you.

If you focus on tone and comfort then the technique will find itself. You will find that no virtuoso guitar player has the same technique as other guitar players. It's just another one of those things that allows us to be unique.


While there are some small differences we are all basically mechanically the same. The same follows for technique; there is some room for variation but the optimal technique is basically all the same.

You never get this "we're all different and technique is personal" balls with classical instruments, god only knows why people stick with it so doggedly with guitar.
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You never get this "we're all different and technique is personal" balls with classical instruments, god only knows why people stick with it so doggedly with guitar.


I have never agreed with a UG forum post so much.
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